87 pointsby oumua_don1718 days ago27 comments
  • crazygringo18 days ago
    I solved this for myself when I discovered "prism glasses":

    https://www.amazon.com/s?k=prism+glasses

    The comfortable reading position is lying on your back on your bed (or long sofa) with a pillow under your head. You're looking upwards at the ceiling while holding the book upright on your belly.

    There's even a clip-on version you can attach to existing prescription glasses.

    So simple. Zero strain. You look absolutely dumb, of course, but it lets you read until your brain gets tired, not your neck or lower back or whatever.

    If you want to go for truly infinite comfort, use an e-reader held upright by a stand sitting on a breakfast tray with legs placed over and around your belly, with a Bluetooth clicker for page turning. At that point, you basically might as well not even have a body...

    • nozzlegear18 days ago
      > So simple. Zero strain. You look absolutely dumb, of course, but it lets you read until your brain gets tired, not your neck or lower back or whatever.

      Having had a CPAP machine for nearly a decade, I'm used to looking absolutely dumb in bed. Thanks for the link!

    • smusamashah18 days ago
      Doesn't that feel weird? I am not into books much but I know that I can't watch TV or phone while lying flat if the screen was right above my eyes. It will feel wrong. I sometimes use phone while on my side such that phone is also sideways. I use it but it doesn't feel normal. I don't know how to explain it, its similar to not standing straight.
      • crazygringo18 days ago
        Doesn't feel weird to me. The book still looks like it's the normal distance away, similar to arm's-length. This doesn't make it feel like the book is right up against your face or anything.
    • treetalker18 days ago
      Let's test Amazon's variable pricing: for me, the "overall pick" is CHANGAR Prism Glasses for $14.99.
    • astatine18 days ago
      I find that, when I lie down, my glasses slip back closer to my eyes just enough to make things go out of focus at reading distance. The weight of the prisms could make it worse. Have you figured out some solution for this? If you have, it could be a game changer for me!
      • crazygringo18 days ago
        I haven't tried it, but maybe some larger nose bridge pads with a bit of friction, that would maintain the distance?

        Might require you to use a dedicated pair of glasses just with this, if you need some kind of spacing/padding element affixed that you don't need otherwise.

    • MitPitt18 days ago
      It increases visual distance to page which strains the eye.
      • crazygringo18 days ago
        It doesn't. You hold the book at basically the same distance you would normally.
  • progbits18 days ago
    Kindle makes this easier. I read lying in bed, on my side, same as if I was sleeping, and prop the kindle against a second pillow.

    This doesn't work with a paper book as you would have to flip between sides and keep holding it open.

    The only thing I would like to improve is to have some small remote to flip pages, so my hands could be in more comfortable position and not have to touch the kindle.

    • SirFatty18 days ago
      How about someone to feed you grapes as well? :-D
      • progbits18 days ago
        I just wish to enjoy my favorite hobby without making my constant back pain even worse :(
      • DuperPower18 days ago
        and someone that brings a bottle to pee
        • lelandfe18 days ago
          Strongly recommend the package that includes removal too
    • hombre_fatal18 days ago
      I bought a goose neck kindle/phone holder (that clips to my night stand) and a remote page flipper so that I can read my kindle in bed while lying on my side up until the moment I fall asleep, arms at my side.

      It looks funny but works well.

      The only thing I would tweak is switching to an ereader with an amber backlight that has a dimmer setting. My gen1 paperwhite, like the iphone, is still too bright at its lowest setting.

    • woleium18 days ago
      there are a bunch of clip on page turners for about $30 on amazon
      • g947o18 days ago
        And for the longest time I don't understand why Amazon never provided something like this first party
    • abdullahkhalids18 days ago
      I occasionally read or watch videos on my laptop by "lying in bed, on my side, same as if I was sleeping, and" propping the laptop on its side. The L shape ensures it remains stable even without a pillow.
      • dyauspitr18 days ago
        I used to read comics on my laptop that way until there was an app they used to have on the iPhone that would enlarge the comic text blobs when you clicked on them. Can’t remember what it was called but it was fantastic.
  • Nevermark18 days ago
    I cracked that code.

    Google "brancaster accent with swivel egg chair" and note the enclosing high-backed versions with wide winged tops.

    With a matching footstool (search "brancaster egg chair footstool"), you can put your feet up, tilt back. The best reading experience I have ever found, by far. You can rest you hands and book on your thighs and read without any neck strain or posture effort.

    The tilting and swiveling also enables continuous posture adjustment, which helps when reading as for sleeping.

    Comfortable enough even for studying with highlighters. (Amazon, "Wood pen holder desk round walnut" square bottom, round top + "Mr. Pen- Aesthetic Highlighters". Such a great combo I have them in several rooms.)

    I am sure I sound like an ad, but when you find combinations of basic things that each work "better", it is great.

    I bought the chairs and respectively matching stools for their style (I have light leather and velvet Jack versions), and was surprised at how much of a practical upgrade they were.

    • paularmstrong18 days ago
      Ah yes, I too have $2,000 to spend on a chair for reading in. /s
      • LargoLasskhyfv18 days ago
        I've heard stuff like this is much cheaper to come by used, auctioned by liquidated companies. Not necessarily the exact above mentioned models, but 'trendy' stuff like Herman Miller chairs, and similar. Let's say 500 bucks.
        • Nevermark18 days ago
          This. I didn’t spend anything like $2k.

          I found the velvet flag version on Amazon for $1150, which is still quite a bit.

          It’s something to keep a look out for. They are iconic enough to pop up randomly in unusual places or furniture stores that you wouldn’t think would sell something like this.

      • jesterson18 days ago
        But you do have thousands to ~spend~ waste on chiropractors, medical insurance, doctors visits, don't you?
  • warmjets22218 days ago
    I read books on my phone while lying flat on my back in bed. I have a stand that holds the phone directly over my face, and a bluetooth page turner so I don't have to tap the screen. It looks ridiculous but I can read for hours like that.
    • Aerroon18 days ago
      My "dream" is to get one of those microphone boom arms with the ability to attach a phone to it with a remote page turner.
    • leetrout18 days ago
      One of the ring style page turners?
    • nicbou18 days ago
      Honestly it's a brilliant idea
  • atzmzt18 days ago
    I'm reading books on my TV by mirroring my mobile device, I found no position more confortable than sitting on the couch and reading instead of mindlessly watching shows. It gives a new meaning to watching TV.
    • frizlab18 days ago
      I would be much too afraid to have burn-ins!
  • PaulDavisThe1st18 days ago
    Weirdly true. A year ago, I bought perhaps the most comfortable chair I've ever sat in specifically for the purpose of reading. And it really is incredibly comfortable to sit in. Yet ... it doesn't solve either of the two central problems of actually reading: having to hold the book/ereader and the head/neck/shoulder angle. The only solution I can imagine is an "overhead" mounted ereader with voice control, and I don't actually want that.
    • Matticus_Rex18 days ago
      My wife uses this stand with her Kindle (there are more flexible/adjustable ones available): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXPJWMNY?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_...

      and a page-turner for the Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CVWZWX56?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_...

    • abecedarius18 days ago
      The Screen of Damocles: could be a market for it.
      • Insanity18 days ago
        It would really stress me out so much that I wouldn’t enjoy the reading though lol.

        Maybe good to pair with a thriller or horror book for the extra jolt of adrenaline if it shifts slightly.

    • wjfuu3298418 days ago
      My Apple Vision Pro is perfect for this, especially with the dual knit band. It really helps me just focus on reading as well, unlike a laptop or something where alt-tabbing is super easy and the (enlarged) book isn't taking up most of my FOV. It's an expensive solution, though, and not for everyone (for example my wife's neck is way slimmer than mine and it would injure her over time).

      (And the pinch the page to turn it like a real page is the most fun thing in the Apple Books app).

    • cma18 days ago
      Tablet/kindle on an arm mount (the kind with springs like a microphone or architecture lamp stand works best, goosenecks fail pretty quick), and the wearmouse app on an android watch to turn pages works pretty well.
    • pmg10118 days ago
      Please share, I've been looking for such a chair for so long!
      • PaulDavisThe1st18 days ago
        These things are incredibly subjective/personal, but for me the chair was a Stressless View (large size). It was not cheap.
      • littlexsparkee18 days ago
        Varier Gravity might be up your alley
    • DuperPower18 days ago
      this is all because people dont want to use a desk because It feels like study, books are meant to be read sitting with a desk and a lamp
      • tefkah18 days ago
        you’re right, i just had a visceral reaction at the idea of reading a novel at a desk.
    • nicbou18 days ago
      I tried reading on my OLED TV and it worked great.
  • bobsmooth18 days ago
    I've never understood the common media trope of a teen on their bed reading a magazine on their stomach prompted up by their elbows. Never in my life has that been a comfortable position.
    • triceratops18 days ago
      I took all manner of outlandish reading positions when I was young; including that one. Now my body can only handle "lying flat, book on the chest".
    • nish__18 days ago
      That literally how I read every day. Pillow under my chest helps too.
    • aitchnyu18 days ago
      Kids dont get fatigue or aches. I remember 12 year old me joining Karate after a sedentary year, exercising till my heartbeat hurt my eardrums and the instructor remind me to not skip classes when I ache.
    • cka18 days ago
      My kid usually sits perched on the floor and holds the book open with his foot. It looks so uncomfortable but he seems fine with it.
  • dalmo318 days ago
    I could read all day on a hammock.

    Unfortunately that just moves the goalposts to "there's no place to install a hammock in my house".

    • toast018 days ago
      My previous house had hammock hooks installed by a previous owner. I'm sure you've got somewhere that could work. Or enough floorspace somewhere for a metal hammock stand.
    • tclancy18 days ago
      You should try the Hammock District, they may have some ideas.
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    • gs1718 days ago
      I've seen standing desks that let you hang a hammock from the frame, but I have a feeling it makes for the worst hammock experience ever.
    • _diyar18 days ago
      Not sure if it‘s meant to be, but your comment is a great joke.
    • asdff18 days ago
      Stud finder and some screw eyes
    • triceratops18 days ago
      You can totally install a hammock on goalposts /s

      Jokes apart there are free-standing hammocks. They take up slightly more space so that may not work.

  • nabbed18 days ago
    I found a very comfortable position, but it depends on a reading app that supports continuous scroll (fortunately, both the Kindle app and the Apple Books app have this setting).

    I lie down with my head slightly propped up on a pillow and the tablet on my lower chest (or upper abdomen) and keep my eyes focused on the top of the reading view area. Instead of moving my eyes or my head to progress through the book, I scroll up in chunks of 2 or 4 lines, as needed.

    I have to hold the tablet steady and also scroll the content, but somehow there's no strain to my arms or hands in that position.

    I am a slow reader, but I can make tons of enjoyable progress through a book using this method.

  • browningstreet18 days ago
    I've struggled with this mightily, and the best I've found is reading uncomfortably more often, in shorter increments, in coffee shops. It's an effort, but it's one I can stick with because there's a secondary upside. Mixing coffee benefits, a bit of people watching, and my book/kindle is a routine I've kept up with.

    Also, library books.. I don't end up reading all of them, but I do skim and read sections of more books when I bring a couple of library books along.

  • manbitesdog18 days ago
    Using an ebook and a bluetooh page turner solved it for me
    • progbits18 days ago
      What page turner do you use?
      • manbitesdog9 days ago
        A cheap one from Aliexpress with only forward/backward keys
  • QuadmasterXLII18 days ago
    As a kid, I would lie on my left side on a bed, and lie the left side of the book flat and the right up at 90 degrees. Then, only minimal effort is required to keep the right half balanced. As you can imagine, without further innovation this only allows reading the right pages- the trick then is to, twice per page turn, rotate the book 180 degrees- and read the left pages upside down
  • vunderba18 days ago
    I spend a great deal of time reading on an e-ink tablet, and solved this problem years ago by buying a Levo tablet floor stand on wheels (5-axis, adjustable height). It’s heavy enough to be very stable, and I just roll it over to the couch or bed whenever I want to settle in for a long reading session. Works perfectly.
  • aidenn018 days ago
    Two positions that work for me:

    1. On my side; the matching arm is completely supported by the bed, so only the opposite arm gets tired, at which point I switch sides.

    2. Book on floor, lie crosswise to bed on my stomach. Doesn't work if bed is too high, but if your arms are longer than the bed hight it's perfect.

  • rodface18 days ago
    I’ve wondered if there is some similar solution that will allow you to rotate your viewing angle, so that you can browse library stacks without bending your neck at a completely awkward angle. The idea of just crouching to a certain height and reading titles horizontally… what a dream
  • worksonmine18 days ago
    I usually read on my back, with a pillow on my stomach as a makeshift stand for the cheap Android tablet I use. Sometimes I like to spice it up and read while doing some yoga positions on the floor. All of them very comfortable.
  • since718 days ago
    Although I usually happen to read in all circumstances and positions, I've cracked the most comfortable reading position for me - on my desk, in my chair, e-reader propped in front of me, all other screens black.
  • nmca18 days ago
    I put a 5 dollar phone-holder-ring on the back of my kindle, problem solved.
  • LargoLasskhyfv18 days ago
    O RLY? Did they ever hear about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ergonomics ?
  • h-c-c18 days ago
    I built an acrylic shelf that could swing out over my head in bed. I would only have to slide the book out to turn pages. Acrylic was probably 12mm thick. Worked great.
  • deafpolygon18 days ago
    I kind of solved it with epubs and sending it to my TV screen.. lean back like watching TV and set the font size to a comfortable size and tap arrow right on a wireless kb.
  • SilasX18 days ago
    You can get prism glasses, which let you see at an angle (head forward = looking at your feet), which avoids neck strain in sitting or lying positions.
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  • pmg10118 days ago
    This is completely true. I've spent decades, ie my whole adulthood, looking unsuccessfully for a properly comfortable reading chair.
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    • randcraw18 days ago
      My perfect reading chair: the "Skye" model designed by Tord Bjorklund for Ikea in the 1970s. Its shape is essentially like an Adirondack chair connected to an ottoman, but padded and leather covered. Insanely comfy and perfect for reading.

      Similar but more famous is the LC4 Chaise Longue designed by Le Corbusier.

      • pmg10118 days ago
        Looks nice to lounge in but to read a book one needs arm rests, surely?
  • WesolyKubeczek18 days ago
    Some people ask me why I prefer audiobooks. It’s the question that some people ask.
    • catlover7618 days ago
      But that's different from reading, so it doesn't solve the issue
      • browningstreet18 days ago
        Adding audiobooks when you're not reading books at all (for all the reasons) is still better than not having audiobooks and not having books.
        • washadjeffmad18 days ago
          They didn't say listening to audiobooks was bad (unless they edited their comment), just that it's a different activity than reading.
      • em-bee18 days ago
        it does when the goal is not reading per se but consuming books that are available in audio format as well as printed. and increasingly with better TTS tools any text can be converted into audio.
        • 4728284718 days ago
          I read hours most every day for decades but audiobooks never worked for me. After ten minutes, I notice my mind has drifted elsewhere and I didn’t listen to anything that was said. Funny how it takes me lots of effort to concentrate on listening but seemingly no effort to read (or watch movies). I hope my eyesight stays with me for a long time.
          • em-bee16 days ago
            that happens to me if i have lots on my mind or if the story is not very engaging. the reading style can also be factor (sleepy voice :-)

            i believe part of the issue is that our eyes are our primary source of input. we can control what we see by the direction where we look, or we can close our eyes. we can not control hearing in the same way, and therefore we instead learn to focus or not focus on specific sounds. but that happens much more subconsciously than how we control our eyes, therefore it can happen even if we don't intent to. (ok, when you are deep in thought you can also gaze into nothingness without closing your eyes, but that's less common)

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  • tefkah18 days ago
    i use Storyteller to sync an audiobook and ebook, then prop up my phone/ereader and have it navigate automatically while reading/listening. very comfy
  • amai18 days ago
    As a kid i used to read lying on my stomach on a beanbag.