88 pointsby gslin2 hours ago9 comments
  • woodruffw2 hours ago
    The advice here is really great (as I'd expect from Hugo), but as the maintainer of zizmor I want to note some caveats with the current iteration of workflow lockfiles:

    - They only lock normal action calls. If your workflows invoke other reusable workflows, you need to keep those hash-pinned manually for now.

    - Composite actions are not themselves locked. Instead, they get locked transitively through their callsites i.e. the workflows that call them. This makes any individual caller that uses lockfiles safe, but it also makes the current `gh actions-lock` default unsafe (since it removes hash-pins from the composite action itself, meaning that any external caller that invokes the action loses their transitive pinning).

    - Other forms of `uses:` clauses, like Docker images, are also not currently locked via the lockfile. And the same for forms of interior mutability (like an action running `npx ...` under the hood, although the latter is fully outside of GitHub's control to prevent. But these mean that you can't assume that a fully locked Actions setup is in fact 100% immutable.

    I hope they address these gaps soon, because it's otherwise an excellent (and long-awaited) feature.

  • klodolph21 minutes ago
    I think my main advice is to avoid GH actions at all, unless avoiding them is somehow painful. There is just a long bad history here.
    • jaggederest12 minutes ago
      These days setting up a proper system on your build orchestrator of choice is pretty easy, cheaper, and you basically only lose a tiny bit of UI niceness if they report to github anyway
  • Already__Taken2 hours ago
    Quoting someone else's blog I've forgotten but you're trading the trust in the repo owner not moving a tag for trusting whoever merges the commit hash to have checked that's a release in the repo you want and not _some_ forks commit. All forks on github are the same repo you can pin any commit, merged upstream or not.

    IMO Github should make Immutable tags mandatory to publish on https://github.com/marketplace

    • woodruffw2 hours ago
      Actions lockfiles prevent this. They won't allow you to lock an impostor commit, which is the right default.

      (The previous way to provide general actions immutability, i.e. hash-pinning, had this issue and thus required additional checks.)

    • 18 minutes ago
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    • OptionOfTan hour ago
      One could write an action that executes a shell script that does docker pull abc:latest.

      As the consumer of an action that becomes really hard to find out unless I take the whole codebase apart.

    • chrisweeklyan hour ago
      I almost forgot about that completely outrageous treatment of forks -- just bonkers.
  • gbraadan hour ago
    I undrrstand this looks cleaner and more intuitive, but you still have the risk of running a workflow with malicious/compromised actions, like manually, or locally with act, if you do not verify the lockfile as part of the workflow or preceded by an extra workflow step. This should be something that the runner ideally should handle (as part of the platform). This still is a workaround, just like the sha pinning. I only use vendor upstream actions, like github's or forks in our own org.
  • SchemaLoad2 hours ago
    Are people finding a real need for importing and updating git actions? Aren't they usually just running a one line bash command? I'd just copy paste the action in to your config so it's fully locked and under your control rather than importing some opaque script from a no name github user.
  • aleaphan hour ago
    So "SHA pinning with version reference in a comment" with extra steps, got it
    • OptionOfTan hour ago
      Enforced through GitHub Actions that is :)
  • lukasschwaban hour ago
    Are there clear reasons to prefer this over just pinning a commit SHA?
    • Arbortheus29 minutes ago
      Presumably it’s for the transitive dependencies. You pin action X, but that (third party) action doesn’t correctly pin the SHA of action Y, so you still get owned if the mutable tag gets moved to a compromised commit.

      But with a lockfile, direct and indirect dependencies both get pinned. (I presume, and haven’t checked yet, but otherwise this feature would be useless)

  • ezekg2 hours ago
    Does this prevent one of the locked dependencies not locking their own dependencies and pulling in a malicious and replaced tag?
    • eddythompson802 hours ago
      It does not. Obviously if you lock a “foo/setup-latest-go” action, it’s still going to (and you’d probably expect it to) pull in the latest go. Actions are expected to start running though. Like GitHub isn’t gonna do an `npm install` for you, it’ll just run the entry point of the action, and the entry point can do whatever it was written to do.
      • computerfriend23 minutes ago
        I think they mean specifically sub-actions as dependencies.
  • latexr31 minutes ago
    I remember reading (but haven’t verified) that even using a specific SHA instead of a tag isn’t a guarantee with GitHub Actions, because the Action itself may have a dependency which does not pin to a SHA, thus making you vulnerable all the same. This lock file strategy does not appear to guard agains that, it seems to be what we had before but trades a bit more readability in one file for an extra (more complex) lock file. Not a trade-off I want to make (but you do you).

    Personally I found the risk of running someone else’s GitHub Action in my repo to not be worth it. Even GitHub’s own Action to checkout repos is way more complex than I need it to be and last I checked had dependencies which could be targeted. I opt instead to not run any third-party Actions (not even GitHub’s official ones) in my repos.