52 pointsby linsomniacan hour ago8 comments
  • AnotherGoodNamean hour ago
    It's Canonical. The company that literally asks for high school grades and a multi-page essay on any job application and will pass if you're not in the 99th percentile of year 9 maths even while requiring many years experience (which means you probably don't even know what your year 9 maths scores were). All the while they pay a fraction of any other Bay Area tech company.

    What i just described isn't a joke or an exaggeration either. It's literally part of the application process and you can look this up.

    Anyway they are quite simply hopelessly mismanaged and no one should be touching Canonical products at this point.

    • cmdrk6 minutes ago
      can confirm, interviewing there was unpleasant and demanded a ridiculous amount of work before ever getting to talk to a human. There was a post on HN a little while back about someone who made it much further along in the process: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44149549

      Made me happy I was cut loose early.

    • hmokiguess42 minutes ago
      Can you share the backstory behind your gripe, this comment feels oddly specific to what appears unrelated to someone outside who doesn't know what you know. Makes me think there's some personal and deeper roots behind it

      EDIT: I'm shocked.

      • shmel28 minutes ago
        Not OP, but why is it unrelated? Hiring practices and salaries are very much related to staff working in a company. A lot of people just refuse to jump through the hoops when they have a choice where to work. People willing to do so will just go to FAANG to maximize TC. That leaves us with a more desperate and less qualified pool of candidates. I doubt many people dream about working in Canonical, it isn't Google from decades ago.
      • pluc39 minutes ago
        It's pretty straightforward, go have a look at their careers site and application form. What parent is saying I believe is that they're leaving a lot of talent on the table because of questionable hiring practices; talent that would help proactively (or at least reactively) mitigate things like this.
      • nancyminusone16 minutes ago
        I don't currently nor have ever even worked in the industry but have heard so many stories so often about this sort of thing it is now permanently associated whenever the name Canonical comes up.
      • alfanick35 minutes ago
        It's common. I interviewed there years ago - full rebel, did not provide them my transcripts, grades etc. Last interview supposedly is run by Shuttleworth himself. Anyway, got a better gig meanwhile.
      • AnotherGoodName35 minutes ago
        Look it up so it isn't just coming from me. It's a quick Google "Canonical hiring process" and there's no shortage of wait wtf was that type of posts on this. You can also go on their website and try to apply for any job just to be further shocked.

        They ask for; A massive multi-choice questionaire. A massive free form list of questions. An ask for an essay. Grades from High school through to University. That's to start the process of many rounds of interviews followed by finally an interview with Mark Shuttleworth himself who's known to say no on vibes.

        Personally i applied for a senior management role after ~30years working at multiple other very large and well known companies. The pay at canonical was literally 1/5th but i was curious. I was honest about my high school scores and immediately given a thanks for your time but we will pass dialog on their website after stating maths scores in year 9. I'm not even fucking kidding. Obviously i was gobsmacked. It was a blessing to get knocked back that early all things considered.

        Not my post but has more detail and matches what i saw. Be amazed at the insanity in the leadership at Canonical that allows for this; https://www.reddit.com/r/recruitinghell/comments/15kj845/can...

        We're talking put him in a straightjacket loony tunes type of shit when it comes to Shuttleworth. You can also look up various personal interactions. It's utterly fucking insane.

        • actionfromafar15 minutes ago
          You'd think space-faring South African billionaire would be Musk, but no.
      • bitfilped31 minutes ago
        Just go interview there and you'll learn all about it for yourself.
      • dominotw22 minutes ago
        Lol what an infuriating comment. "you must be butthurt from your interview"
        • AnotherGoodName18 minutes ago
          To be fair i did get knocked back but not at all butthurt since it was at the very first stage on the application after filling in high school maths scores from ~40 years ago in a country that doesn't even have GPAs (so i have no idea what to even enter in that box).

          The knockback didn't hurt. It just made me think Canonical was lead by a lunatic and a quick Google will confirm this.

    • BeetleB14 minutes ago
      Reminds me of Epic (healthcare company). I was close to finishing grad school, and they wanted my SAT scores. When I gave it to them, they couldn't stop gushing. I wanted to wash my hands with a lot of soap at that point.
  • throw0101c5 minutes ago
    As outlined in this weblog post:

    * https://ubuntu.com/blog/fixes-available-in-proposed-pocket-f...

    The fixes were in the "proposed" repo since October 26 (noble) and 28 (resolute):

    * https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux

    One could pull them down at any point in the last week. Yesterday afternoon they were still in "proposed", but I checked this morning (EST/UTC-5) and they there were in "updates".

    The kernels goes through an QA testing processes, and per this September post, they're looking at shortening the timeframe for kernel updates:

    * https://canonical.com/blog/accelerating-delivery-of-cve-fixe...

  • chrisvalleybay33 minutes ago
    There has been a workaround available since nov 2: https://ubuntu.com/blog/fixes-available-in-proposed-pocket-f...
    • InsidiousWombat24 minutes ago
      The fix is to install Debian
      • pedro_caetanoa few seconds ago
        Didn't Debian also have a CVE yesterday on a MITM affecting APT?

        Arguably also affecting Ubuntu by Corollary with APT.

  • adsfasfan hour ago
    Aren't the patches out since a day?
    • guyisitan hour ago
      Holy crap, they are showing in apt… why in the world wouldn’t they update the dang CVE page?!

      I agree though, this took too long.

      • slekker36 minutes ago
        Likely needs a human from another department to press a button, and they have not "synced" with the team publishing the patch.
        • chasd0016 minutes ago
          They need to "stack hands" and "gain alignment". ( i work in consulting :P )
  • infamouscow43 minutes ago
    This is a problem with LTS distro kernels in general. You're trading the feeling of stability at the kernel level for security updates.
    • layer820 minutes ago
      This is not a problem with Debian LTS, you’re getting timely security updates. Debian fixed this vulnerability three weeks ago within two days: https://www.debian.org/lts/security/
    • vanschelven4 minutes ago
      For Ubuntu it was _all_ their kernels though...
  • sick_of_slopan hour ago
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