110 pointsby geox5 hours ago12 comments
  • harmmonica5 hours ago
    People will complain that this is on HN, but I just want to say that nothing makes me more patriotic than having faith in my fellow citizens. I am neither a democrat nor a republican. But this (House and Senate results even if Senate doesn’t change parties) shows that a good chunk of the population knows that what’s been happening at the Federal level is unacceptable.

    Now let’s hope we see some real change (and that isn’t advocating for a lurch left). I have my doubts real change is possible but you have to start somewhere.

    • BugsJustFindMean hour ago
      > "this shows that a good chunk of the population knows that what’s been happening at the Federal level is unacceptable."

      It also shows that a good chunk of the population does _not_ know it.

    • rich_sasha25 minutes ago
      Huh. I’m just confused about the people who saw Trump v1 and voted him in again for v2.

      > Damn man, cutting off my leg seemed like a good idea at the time, but it turned out bad. But a while later, I wasn’t happy with my life, so I thought, what the hell, I’ll cut off the other one too, see what happens. That was bad too! So when my neighbor asked me if I want to burn my prosthetic legs as well, I said - NEVER!

    • rubicon333 hours ago
      "Now let’s hope we see some real change. I have my doubts real change is possible but you have to start somewhere."

      Well, kudos to you I guess, for having any hope at all. Mine is long lost. Democrat, Republican, it doesn't matter. Real change is a fallacy.

      • harmmonica3 hours ago
        I’m just naive. We’re more alike than not, but hope is a powerful drug if you can get even a little bit of access to it (which is very difficult when living a normal, day-to-day life imo).
    • analognoise4 hours ago
      Flipped the senate, too.

      Good.

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    • beloch3 hours ago
      Canadian here.

      The house and senate both flipping is encouraging, but pay close attention to what comes next. There is no end to the self-inflicted challenges that the U.S. now faces. Many of them must be dealt with urgently. However, Democrat commentators are already saying that it will be to their advantage in 2028 if a Democrat controlled Congress accomplishes nothing for two years because Trump veto'd everything. This is not acceptable.

      The U.S. has destabilized the globe. The conflicts they have both started and exacerbated need to be resolved in less than two years. Don't let your leaders, whichever side they're on, play politics until the next election. The U.S. has started a lot of fires. It needs to put them out promptly before somebody else does. Americans probably won't like it if that happens. That would cement the fall from unchallenged global superpower to just another misbehaving middle power.

    • dzhiurgis2 hours ago
      There's nothing woke about this. Since 1946, the president's party has lost House seats in 18 of 20 midterms (90%).
      • anon7725an hour ago
        You are responding to a studiously nonpartisan comment with the word “woke”?
    • georgemcbay4 hours ago
      > People will complain that this is on HN

      Not me, though I do expect this thread may get flagged, because... HN.

      > I just want to say that nothing makes me more patriotic than having faith in my fellow citizens.

      Same. It is also very heartening to see all of that (mostly Musk) Republican donor money totally lit on fire, and to see what appears to be a lot of black voters in the south coming out to stand up for their voting rights which the Republicans keep trying to strip.

      > Now let’s hope we see some real change

      Realistically the Democrats won't be able to change much in the next 2 years because of veto power, but just kneecapping Trump into a full lame duck is good enough for now. And they better start passing lots of real legislation that addresses the needs of the American public, EVEN IF THEY KNOW it is going to be vetoed. Make Trump and everyone around him (JD Vance, Rubio) own all the lack of progress directly in the run-up to the 2028 election.

      • harmmonica3 hours ago
        I just texted this to a friend. I really do love capitalism and “corporate” and people getting rich and ra ra “America fuck yeah” but I love it in concept where that part of the country succeeds because of hard work and risk taking, not because of corruption and government favor. Let’s hope this is the start (or the revisiting?), as you said, of addressing the “needs of the American people,” the mass of people who have in some cases been fucked over for decades, and, for others, far longer.
  • robrain4 hours ago
    Is there any more important news for hackers today? But this story gets flagged. Wild
    • cosmicgadget4 hours ago
      Texas flipping is kind of up there.
    • ambione26 minutes ago
      likely not a coincidence.
    • robrain4 hours ago
      And now the Senate.
  • woggy3 hours ago
    Curious why this is flagged? Seismic shift in US politics today.
    • isoprophlex2 hours ago
      @dang i understand this is prime rage bait material, but i REALLY want to talk about this on my favorite place for discussing things

      How do you feel about having a single containment zone-style submission to channel everyone's nervous energies into?

    • Jtsummers3 hours ago
      US politics almost always gets flagged here. The mods occasionally disable flagging for these discussions. Non-US politics are less likely to get flagged, though.
    • dzhiurgis2 hours ago
      This "seismic shift" has been happening in 90% of midterms since 1946.
      • anon772540 minutes ago
        It really hasn’t, though. The president’s party reliably loses seats. It doesn’t reliably get annihilated to the point of electing Democratic senators in Kansas.
      • happymellon29 minutes ago
        90% of the time Texas flips?
  • foobarchu5 hours ago
    I'm begging the news agencies: stop reporting things as fact that are entirely based on projections. It says so in the body of this article, this is a projection, not actual results.
    • jmyeet4 hours ago
      Lots of things are probability and statistics so this is a truism of no value.

      News outlets are, in general, extremely conservative when calling races. The usual standard is somewhere between "there are not enough outstanding votes to change the outcome" and "the uncounted votes have to be insanely different to anything likely based on previous elections". More [1].

      Changing a projection has happened but it's incredibly rare.

      [1]: https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/how-us-news-o...

    • ericyd5 hours ago
      To clarify, you're complaining about the headline?
      • foobarchu4 hours ago
        I am. It states as fact something that is projected.

        To be clear, I'd love it to be true, but I don't think we should be reporting things as fact without a mathematical certainty or a concession.

        • defrost4 hours ago
          The sub heading immediately states it is a projection, and the majority of experienced readers will understand the headline to imply a high probability projection.

            Democrats win control of the House of Representatives, with a vow to combat Trump
            NBC News projects that Democrats will take control of the House next year, giving them the power to investigate Trump and advance legislation to check his policies.
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    • georgemcbay4 hours ago
      Projected race calls are correct 99.9% of the time.

      NBC's last two projection errors were 2000 (Bush v Gore presidential race in Florida, which was universally just a fucked race) and 1960.

      It is a given at this point that Democrats have, in fact, won control of the House for 2027 (as long as there isn't any Trump shitfuckery, which I think the win this year is going to be way too big for him to even try it).

      • giardini4 hours ago
        Why? What's he got to lose? If I were him I'd do my best!8-))
        • anon772542 minutes ago
          He’s not on the ballot and is too lazy to try to ratfuck this.
      • deaux4 hours ago
        > NBC's last two projection errors were 2000 (Bush v Gore presidential race in Florida, which was universally just a fucked race) and 1960.

        The former wasn't an error. So they've made one, 60 years ago.

        • ghtbircshotbean hour ago
          The good old days of hanging chads and presidents being picked by the supreme court
  • CodeArtisan4 hours ago
    "THREAD on how data center-related ballot measures are faring tonight"

    https://x.com/jdcapelouto/status/2117786709173645427

  • LocalH4 hours ago
    Of course this is flagged
  • cosmicgadget4 hours ago
    Does this mean the files will finally be released?
    • zzleeper4 hours ago
      only DOJ/Trump can release them. Maybe they'll burn em
      • peterbecich2 minutes ago
        The Biden DoJ could have prosecuted, if there were evidence. Same set of files, I reason.
  • koolba5 hours ago
    I’m starting to doubt Trump can win again in 2028.
    • cosmicgadget4 hours ago
      Well once we all become filthy rich from the tariffs, the ACA is replaced with something way better, and we agree to peace with Iran for the 230th time, we'll be overturning that silly amendment real quick.
    • mproud4 hours ago
      The sarcasm is strong with this one
    • giardini4 hours ago
      He cannot "win again" in 2028 - he's already been elected twice to the presidency and the 22nd amendment bars him from an elected third term.

      OTOH he could run for VP. Then were the new president to resigned or die then Trump could serve a third (un-elected) term as president! Rinse, repeat!8-))

      • tromp40 minutes ago
        The only way he could stay in the White House is if Melania got elected (the Clinton route).
        • 165944709117 minutes ago
          > The only way he could stay in the White House is if Melania got elected

          Melania is not a natural born US citizen so that would be impossible

      • Jtsummers4 hours ago
        > OTOH he could run for VP.

        No, he can't. The elected VP also has to be eligible to be elected as president.

        The 12th Amendment says:

        > But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

        Paired with the 22nd which restricts Presidential eligibility, Trump cannot be elected as VP. He could potentially (this would go through the courts, it is a gray area) be nominated to VP, but he cannot be elected as President or VP again.

  • pacomerh3 hours ago
    flagged? wow HN showing its real colors.
    • anon772540 minutes ago
      Black, red and a bit of white?
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  • thankyouz5 hours ago
    [flagged]
    • KevinMS4 hours ago
      Not sure how that works. Wouldn't be surprised of some hyperscalers are happy to have their overbuild interrupted.
  • ai_critic5 hours ago
    Tomorrow, we should consider what policy decisions and mistakes the Democrats may have yet to make with their newfound power, both in the House and elsewhere.

    We should ponder whether they'll fix the filibuster that has laid them low so many times. Whether they'll come up with a coherent and air-tight strategy for curbing executive overreach, both now and for the future. Whether they'll cripple America's position in AI and rocketry/orbital stuff. Whether they'll figure out how to fix the immigration issues and backlog. Whether they'll do anything meaningful about the military adventurism abroad.

    But my colleagues--that is tomorrow.

    Tonight--tonight, we can enjoy that there is still enough of a vestige of an animating spirit in the body politic to rise up and cause change and make the bastards sit up and take notice that election results are not forgone conclusions, that buffoonery and trickery have their limits when set against a people sufficiently animated by despair and distress and frustration and justice.

    Tonight we can enjoy things.