The conversation is about why software freedom matters to people who don't write code: the urge to tinker, share and collaborate, and how the rights to use, understand, adapt and share software support free speech, a free press and privacy.
He also wrote a children's book, Ada & Zangemann – A Tale of Software, Skateboards, and Raspberry Pi, and they talk about teaching these ideas to kids. See: https://oercommons.org/courseware/lesson/148480/overview
This season of the "Educating to Be Human" podcast is about people working to keep access to information and knowledge open and decentralized.
Also on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/educating-to-be-human-...