2 pointsby PorciiVorbesc3 hours ago1 comment
  • silverFork2 hours ago
    He forgot the main plot or pretended not to know. Bomb them and they will come.
    • PorciiVorbesc2 hours ago
      He didn't forget about it, because that's not a remotely valid argument, just more emotional guilt tripping for manipulation.

      1) My country never bombed anyone of them, and even if it were to somehow, I never voted for it, therefore not my problem or responsibility to accept to pay for this.

      2) If a country were indeed so evil and vicious to actually intentionally bomb you to kill you, why would you go their country for safety when you claim they bomb you? Surely you wouldn't feel safe in the country of murderous bombers who want to kill you. When Germany bombed France in WW2, the French didn't move to Germany.

      • silverForkan hour ago
        You are his defense attorney I see.. That is why you posted it. It is how you feel. Did you expect to see an agreement with propaganda and not getting contested?

        Are you looking for references that prove that most of the refugees are product of wars where the west has been spreading for about 50 years and collapsing many countries turning them into dust? Or would you ignore the evidence no matter what references are provided, believing that you are the victim. Frankly I don't believe anybody can miss the vast amount of evidence.

        For your information people escape to the centers of empire to get away from violence and being bombed. Be it Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya, .. name it .. the perma wars that never ended. Not to forget wars against socialism and overthrows and goon squads that converted many countries into land of warlords by constant overthrows.

        It is very simple, no wars, no war refugees.. They may smell bad and become vile because civil behavior can not be expected in war torn regions. But those that start these wars and pump them are far worse. They smell good and produce vile videos.

        • PorciiVorbescan hour ago
          >You are his defense attorney I see

          No, I just have a above room temperature IQ and clear view of facts with no emotional guilt tripping and manipulation.

          >It is how you feel

          It's how most people feel. We were just never asked to directly vote on this, so you could also see for yourself.

          >Did you expect to see an agreement with propaganda and not getting contested?

          You forgot to point to what exact, from the video or my comment, is supposedly propaganda to you.

          >product of wars where the west has been spreading for about 50 years

          Read again what I said before, because you did not address this. I'll repeat: My country did not fund any foreign conflicts, nor did people in other countries vote for bombing of other countries. You again, forgot this argument when replying and just keep repeating like a broken record, the same emotionally charged arguments based on guilt tripping people of "the west" on the original sins of wars from 50+ years ago when most people reading this were not even born, let alno able to vote on such policies. THere's no legal or moral obligations based on the original sin. Why didn't you address this argument?

          Just because a few empire nations like the US or UK have done stuff this in the past to enrich some corporations, do not paint everyone in "the west" with the same brush. Name countries and tell them to take refugees if they want to. But pacifist countries like Austria or Sweden and most of EU, members of "the west" have no obligation to take in and fund third worlders from their taxes, since they didn't bomb anyone. There's no "the west" as a singular nation, with a shared policy, history and guilt, three just individual countries with separate policies, histories and cultures. You think Sweden and Austria should be forced to take in and fund migrants just because the US and UK bombed some countries 20-50 years ago simply because they're all part of "the west"?

          >collapsing many countries turning them into dust?

          When in recent history were those countries ever not dust and unstable warring tribes and factions before or after the invention of "the west"? Did they build MRI machines and flying cars before the US decided to bomb them? How come Germany got bombed and Japan got nuked twice and instead of every German and Japanese person moving to the US as refugees, how come they built a country that was not dust? China got invaded and colonized by everyone and now they're a world power. Maybe some cultures are inherently successful at creating prosperous societies, and some are perpetual failures, with or without external aggression, and blaming "the west" or "muh colonialism" is just manufactured liberal brainwashing propaganda that's purely made to emotionally manipulate you and others from "the west" into accepting self destructive migration policies that only benefit the top 1%, based on emotional guilt tripping with of the original sin but no arguments that hold water. Why didn't you address this argument?

          >It is very simple, no wars, no war refugees.

          Wars have existed since humanity yet the refugee industry taken from your taxes did not. Why is that? Where's your argument to this?