16 pointsby nreece4 hours ago6 comments
  • _aavaa_3 hours ago
    > Alphabet reported property-and-equipment purchases of about $51.4B, while analysts expected approximately $55.1B. Microsoft reported capex and finance leases of about $45.2B, while analysts were expecting around $50.7B. These were significant misses.

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    > Caterpillar inventories increased to $22.2 billion at the end of September […] The 22% increase in inventory signals future demand weakness or overproduction, and the reason is lower AI capex, as reported by Alphabet and Microsoft.

    Maybe I’m not getting it. But it’s alphabet and Microsoft spending less than someone external said they should spend, not what they themselves said they would spend. How is that a miss?

    • goodmythical3 hours ago
      Lots of investors "buy the news" meaning that they go based on under/over speculator sentiment.

      If it was believed that they be purchasing N, then that belief was priced in. If they only bought N-1, the price needs to be adjusted to reflect the new information.

      Here, the argument is "the more hardware we have, the more compute we can sell, the more compute we sell, the more profit we'll have" and so investors were expecting a higher level of profit and now are not.

      All of this is why stock value and company value often share little with each other. The people working at the company and the people investing in the company have different views of what one small piece of the company is worth. You'll see PE ratios vary by sector, over time, by strength of underlying economy, near lows/highs etc. Any company's value is only set by what people are willing to pay for it at any given time.

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  • jeanpah4 hours ago
    Why this things always happen a friday? Like it's planned or something.
    • vlucas3 hours ago
      It happened yesterday, on a Thursday.
      • jeanpahan hour ago
        Ops, I got the news today, thanks for the heads up
    • spwa42 hours ago
      Nothing real has happened yet. Let's all just step back and give Trump a chance to wake up. I mean, the guy is over 80 years old, can't expect much action before 2pm at the earliest.

      Later this afternoon he'll probably ride a nuke down ... gIRANimooooooo!

  • jswelker3 hours ago
    If this is the bubble bursting, it's pretty anticlimactic.
    • spwa42 hours ago
      Is it?

      INTC: -30.5% RDDT: -29–31% NBIS: -14.2% CRWV: -13.6% GOOGL: -13.3% GOOG: -13.0% AMD: -11.4% AMZN: -11.1% MU: -9.3% AVGO: -7.1%

      Only AAPL "and META" are unscathed, and only if for META you don't look too far back.

      Then, there's international. In the last few months. China tech: 50% down from ATH (all of them combined, just don't look), South Korea: -40% ATH, Japan: -15% (all the stock market combined), Taiwan -10% (entire stock market).

      Not that I mean to imply everything detonated at the same time. Even within the US stock market. GOOG had a large drop (arguably META was first, but that was 2 weeks ago). It's more like a slow motion disaster, one stock market blowing up after another, and it just keeps going.

      It's actually "getting better" too, the US drop isn't nearly as large as the one in China from a few days ago. In fact, if you look at the S&P 500 as a whole, nothing much happened, really.

      • jswelker2 hours ago
        I was just expecting something bigger than the dotcom pop not vastly smaller.
  • gomox3 hours ago
    Funny that this ever so tiny, ticker specific correction is deemed "the bubble bursting".
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