It was a single file app.py flask app with over 10,000 lines of code. It had html and css defined as variables in that single file!
I am sure this is gonna end well.
Full archived / paywall free copy is at https://web.archive.org/web/20261029143048/https://www.404me...
Are there any good alternatives?
We are a small team and have experience with providing email services for almost 30 years.
Our management also is lately very pro AI and we are reevaluating how we will move forward with developing features
Ummm, maybe I am crazy but I don't want the main metric for my privacy-first email provider to be ARR. How about security and privacy guarantees? How about bugs fixed? How about lowering the supply chain risk for the company? I care about a lot more than your ARR.
> That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure
> Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”
I'm on the Proton "visionary" plan ($280/year) for my family. I'm more than happy to switch. Anyone have a suggestion as to where to re-home our email? I'm using custom domains for ~3 domains and control 3 people's email.
Fastmail Family should be a good fit for you.
- they provide a service, not software
- you'd also need a maintained /24 of IPs with good email reputation
- unless you want to only use an email client, you need to do lots of testing on the web editor part for how the formatting gets interpreted in other clients, how to render weird emails correctly, how to protect the privacy in external resources, and lots of other things
Even with an LLM that's both a multi-week implementation and an infra management project for life. Their users in general can't do that. (There's a handful that could)
Engineers at a tech company create value.
Can anyone recommend good alternatives?
That won't age well in the long term, especially and for a company that deals with security. Here's what Proton just did:
Rather than equipping more of your technical staff with AI to compete against the competition, they are dismissing them over it and not hiring anymore engineers on technical defense. Not only the competition has AI agents as well, the malicious attackers also do and will overwhelm Proton with swarms of them, non-stop with less staff.
This will be the beginning of the end of Proton as there will be no-one ready to defend the company when millions of abliterated frontier-level AI agents attack them at 25,000 tokens per second.
That isn't a secure future for Proton.
Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking...”