309 pointsby Aboutplants8 hours ago26 comments
  • monomania5 hours ago
    It'd be a shame if people started checking potential hires, tenants, dates, and business transactions against this info, cutting off ICE from large segments of the economy and society. I bet they'd feel really dehumanized.
    • Computer04 hours ago
      Interesting to note that this would be illegal if said person decided to serve in a war you oppose. I think this law is unjust and you should be able to discriminate when hiring for occupational history.
      • xphos3 hours ago
        I think you only come out with this type of thinking if you've never really spent much time with people who served in the armed forces. Wars are declared by politicans not soldiers. Soldiers are enlisted to serve (at least in the US and most western nations) at the behest of the democratic body that employs them.

        I.e they shouldn't be blamed if politicans force them to fight battles they think are unjust. If they are ordered to they don't have a choice its fight or go to miltary prison per UCMJ. Other jobs (law enforcement) are not like that. Generally speaking its quite unfair to double blame soldiers forcing them to fight unjust wars and than punish them for being forced into stupid wars. They can choose to not be soldiers but not everyone will be in a position economically to ignore the possible benefits. Miltary service is a strong path to escape poverty especially in the US.

        Law enforcement is entirely different they are immune to judgement errors they make even if they kill someone. They have little accountablity, and often abuse of the law is just overlooked or covered up because they are the ones who enforce it. They don't even have to know how to do their job or law, if they mess up its someone elses problem due to qualifed immunity. Hence the craziness with the ICE they can violate rights with impunity and much of that has to due with the fact their oversight body is apparently just the president who says don't care about any law breaking.

        • genocidicbunny3 hours ago
          > They can choose to not be soldiers but not everyone will be in a position economically to ignore the possible benefits. Miltary service is a strong path to escape poverty especially in the US.

          Adding to this, if you're in the peacetime military and have a long contract, and congress or the executive orders the military to deploy somewhere, those soldiers won't even have much of a choice. As long as you're under contract, if the military says jump, most often all you can respond with is "how high?"

          • Computer0an hour ago
            So we should ignore the atrocities of people who sold their soul for cash because they sold their soul?
        • zinodaur2 hours ago
          If you take their cookie for dropping their bombs - it seems like you’ve earned whatever blame comes your way for the people you kill. It never seems like much blame makes it back anyways
        • Computer0an hour ago
          The military is for killing. I am fundamentally opposed to that. Anyone who signs up to be a soldier I have a moral qualm with.
          • justinhj41 minutes ago
            Don't you feel grateful you likely have peace and security because of these people?
      • whatshisface4 hours ago
        Of all the things our troops have to be to go on deployment, persuaded is not.
      • nilamoan hour ago
        Luckily we haven't been in war for decades.
    • CurbStomper44 hours ago
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  • fastily7 hours ago
    The primary source for the article: https://ddosecrets.org/article/icepick
  • bronlund2 hours ago
    I approve. The problem isn’t surveillance, the problem is that everybody doesn’t have access to the data :D
  • JumpCrisscross7 hours ago
    Can you search for agents near me?
    • citruscomputing6 hours ago
      Yes! Here's a link to view agents in Chicago, for example: https://icepi.cx/search?city=Chicago&agencies=HSI&agencies=I...
      • dlahoda6 hours ago
        started clicking through random employee ladder. literally 11 managers to the top.
        • jazzyjackson5 hours ago
          Just enough tax dollar grift with deportations as a side effect
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    • camel_gopher7 hours ago
      Local agents want to meet you.
      • bigwheels7 hours ago
        And they already know your location. They're 3 minutes away.
    • venusenvy474 hours ago
      I clicked on various names in the database, and all of them showed "record created 2022-xx-xx" for every single one. (It was an actual date and time in that year that I can't remember.). I'm curious if this dump is for people that were employed there back in 2022, and would exclude the ones that joined after 2025. Or if there is something about the data format that makes that creation date inaccurate.
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  • cdrnsf4 hours ago
    This calls for the world’s tiniest violin.
  • liveoneggs7 hours ago
    what was the okta config error?
    • eastbound7 hours ago
      Just upvoting to emphasize that Okta, SSO and MDM services in general are an extremely major single point of failure. From the point of view of a non-expert in security, it would seem like segmenting the authentication services of companies should be a security requirement.
      • anal_reactor2 hours ago
        First, SSO is often non-negotiable. Otherwise employees spend a huge chunk of their working day just logging into different services.

        Second, too complicated security setups often result in trivially hackable global passwords and shit like that because turns out, there are very few people willing to daily rotate and remember 30 different cryptographically random 256-bit arrays.

        Third, no matter how robust your security setup is, there will always be someone who finds a flaw in it, so a much better solution is to just do bare minimum and get insurance.

        It's strange to be that so many security experts are completely detached from how humans actually act.

        • RachelFan hour ago
          Both are true, it is a single point of failure and a single point of convenience.

          What always puzzles me about this stuff and critical infrastructure like nuclear powerplants, is why is an internal network connected to the public Internet at all?

          If you have to connect it to the Internet, then why is it talking to unknown devices?

      • bcvvvy6 hours ago
        Dunno why you’re downvoted. You’re not wrong.

        Trusting an SSO system, or anything with security sensitive data on the public internet presents an attack surface with untenable risk when your adversary is thousands of people with LLM tools.

        It’s going to take a lot of this before people realise using someone else’s computer is a pretty fucking stupid idea.

        I mean Entra and Okta got popped. That should have been the point companies looked at this risk and went nope.

  • xvxvx8 hours ago
    In a note with the files, the hackers wrote, “They have our information, so it's only fair that we have theirs.”

    I mean, they’re not wrong…

    • MrVandemar4 hours ago
      Lie to us, and we'll lie to you.

      Spy on us, and we'll spy on you.

      Poison us, and we'll poison you.

      -- The East

  • tamimio7 hours ago
    What an interesting times, a hack the “exposes” people who are supposedly and should be publicly known to start with.
    • dbg314156 hours ago
      Right? Let's just keep this list as a list of people who should never hold office, or work in law enforcement ever again once Trump goes.

      "Leaks" like this should just be a FoIA request. Anyone enforcing the law should have their face, and badge number, prominently shown at all times.

      That's how we show that we aren't ashamed of our laws. Any time it takes a mask to do your job... you know you're doing something you ought not be doing.

  • spl7575 hours ago
    Woe is the one that must wear The Scarlet T
  • righthand8 hours ago
    This should already be public information imo.
    • derac8 hours ago
      Yes, why do we have undercover domestic spies and enforcers? Is that something we want? Vote!
      • mitxela7 hours ago
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        • AlexErrant7 hours ago
          It still blows my mind he won the popular vote.

          This timeline is fucking _wild_.

          • edoceo6 hours ago
            The most popular candidate was "I didn't vote"
            • prophesi6 hours ago
              DNC did a great job endorsing that candidate.
              • shimman4 hours ago
                Downvoted but absolutely correct. This is what happens when you neglect working people's needs, they will always side with the authoritarian that promises a better future. Neoliberals need to be purged from the DNC if they ever want actual power like the New Deal Coalition held onto (controlled both Houses of Congress for 60 years, won 10/12 Presidential elections with their candidates too).

                Nixon literally won his election by promising national price controls. The people love economic relief, even just the promise is enough to win elections.

                • edoceo3 hours ago
                  Read my lips: No new taxes - remember that one?
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        • 2OEH8eoCRo07 hours ago
          That's definitely why Trump is -27 net approval.
          • shipman057 hours ago
            That's just buyers remorse. He told us how he intended to govern. His opponent told us how he intended to govern. The voters were not mislead.

            (and his approval would be the same mid 40s it always was if gas prices were reasonable)

            • fnordpiglet7 hours ago
              He’s never achieved a majority vote in any election, FWIW. His claim of a mandate was just as brazen as all the other litany of lies - he’s a lame duck lame duck. The true shame is on the congressional republicans for letting him sully them so deeply and follow him in his self immolation of the entire government and America in the world. The rebuilding will be a major test of the successor, and it’ll be fascinating to see if the Goldwater republicans can become the party of reason again rather than this reality TV idiocracy.
              • wredcoll6 hours ago
                > The true shame is on the congressional republicans for letting him sully them so deeply and follow him in his self immolation of the entire government and America

                This is the problem when your entire identity and principles boil down to "doing what the social superior tells you to".

              • cowlevel5 hours ago
                His party knows the system and focuses on getting elected instead of focusing on getting the popular vote, because the popular vote doesn't elect you...
              • JumpCrisscrossan hour ago
                > He’s never achieved a majority vote in any election

                Trump won the popular vote in 2024 [1].

                [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidentia...

              • exe347 hours ago
                This is not idiocracy. It's the prequel. In idiocracy, they understood that they were dumb and put the smart guy in charge.
                • evan_7 hours ago
                  for 20 minutes, and then they tried to kill him
            • kayamon7 hours ago
              Americans aren't angry because Trump was wrong, they're angry because it's not working.
            • tyromaniac7 hours ago
              After denying project 2025 and then carrying it out almost exactly? They were misled.b
              • wredcoll6 hours ago
                What?
                • 2OEH8eoCRo06 hours ago
                  During the election Trump denied knowing anything about Project 2025 and he has enacted a lot of it. I dont know why voters trusted him on that but here we are.
                  • wredcoll6 hours ago
                    Trump is globally famous for lying. It's possibly his most well known attribute? What's the argument here?
                    • 2OEH8eoCRo06 hours ago
                      The argument is that what he promised and what we got are very different. Saying people voted for this isn't genuine IMO.
                      • blooalien5 hours ago
                        > Saying people voted for this isn't genuine IMO.

                        Those people voted for the lies, knowing full well that they were lies, and then are acting surprised that the lies are lies.

                        • grg03 hours ago
                          "The lies are lies" being a true proposition is too meta for the average human brain.
          • fnordpiglet7 hours ago
            And won via a plurality after losing the popular vote in the last election. The least popular president in history can’t win a majority of popular vote. It’s not shocking he’s deeply unpopular, he never was popular. He’s a won twice on a technicality of the republic created to ensure the rural states wouldn’t be dominated by Virginia in the original establishment of the union.

            He’s a pariah everywhere on earth, most especially at home. The sad part is the democrats couldn’t mount a successful campaign against someone so unfit to lead. Now there’s nothing left to do but clean up the mess and undo the terrible harm he has caused and repair what can be once he’s finally out of our hair.

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          • JumpCrisscross7 hours ago
            It’s not. It’s because he took inflation to the Moon. If he hadn’t had Hegseth at his side, and hadn’t gone into Iran, he’d probably still be treading water.
            • fn-mote4 hours ago
              Covid spending took inflation to the moon. Just as economic theory predicts.
              • JumpCrisscross3 hours ago
                > Covid spending took inflation to the moon

                Yes. Then the party that did that got trounced. Then nobody learned any lessons.

            • assimpleaspossi6 hours ago
              Inflation under Trump is half that of when Biden was in. https://finance.yahoo.com/economy/policy/article/inflation-u...
              • Steppphennn3 hours ago
                It wasn’t solely Biden that created that spike. Trump passed the CARES act that minted close to 3 trillion in his final year of his first term. Biden passed a trillion dollar bill too. I don’t blame them since it was to combat covid. I’m not jumping for joy because it’s half, I’m mad because it’s ticking back up.
                • JumpCrisscross3 hours ago
                  Biden absolutely signed a series of inflationary bills into law and then didn’t do anything to mitigate it. (The initial Covid relief kept us out o a depression.)

                  Biden’s inflation peaked worse than anything Trump has done. But telling voters you’re only slapping them after the other guy punched them is about as effective as you’d think. (There is zero sense of urgency from the White House around this either.)

              • JumpCrisscross6 hours ago
                > Inflation under Trump is half that of when Biden was in

                And how did that work out for Biden?

                Voters don’t like inflation. Blowing up energy prices by launching a war of choice while shutting down domestic production because windmills isn’t smart policy.

                • cowlevel5 hours ago
                  Yep. For a lot of voters, it is literally as simple as high gas prices => vote for the other guy.
              • cowlevel5 hours ago
                Actual or stated? The article lists a lot of things whose prices went up more under Trump 2 than Biden - regardless of what CPI data from the Trump government says.
                • assimpleaspossi4 hours ago
                  Uh, wouldn't that be the same? Let's say factually and statistically. In any case, I posted that to balance what the other guy said which was misleading at best
                  • JumpCrisscross3 hours ago
                    > what the other guy said which was misleading at best

                    Current inflation is a fuckup [1]. Pretending it doesn’t exist is a fuckup. They aren’t unprecedented fuckups. But they are consistently punished.

                    Inflation is exceptionally high right now for a developed country. It’s feeding into cost-of-living issues that are animating voters.

                    [1] https://www.bls.gov/cpi/ 7.2 annualized in September

                    • assimpleaspossi3 hours ago
                      Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm pointing out.

                      I'm sorry. Is this Reddit? Sure reads like it

                      • JumpCrisscross3 hours ago
                        > Which has absolutely nothing to do with what I'm pointing out

                        You had no hard numbers. I’m providing them. How aren’t you following that connection?

                        • assimpleaspossi3 hours ago
                          You've decided to go down your own beaten path and want me to follow. I'm not doing that. I'm staying with everybody else. Go start your own thread somewhere else.
                  • cowlevel4 hours ago
                    No. Actual numbers and numbers stated by an unreliable biased entity are not the same.
                    • assimpleaspossi3 hours ago
                      You can Google for the same information as I did over the past year. I won't do it for you.
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        • _AzMoo7 hours ago
          Eligible voter turnout in 2024 was <50% for 18-24 year olds, and <65% for 25-44 year olds in the US.
          • deadbunny7 hours ago
            Unless 100% of people vote it doesnt count as voting?
            • _AzMooan hour ago
              No?

              "We did vote". Except that an extraordinary number of people that could vote, didn't. So when somebody says "vote, people", they're obviously talking to those people that chose not to vote.

            • fluidcruft6 hours ago
              People who don't vote don't oppose the winner.
            • asanineassasin7 hours ago
              Any idea is worth entertaining, to avoid the realization the purity spiraling ideology is just as reviled by 90 % of the people as is racism.
          • IgorPartola7 hours ago
            I think my idea for this is that a candidate doesn’t win the election unless they get more than 50% of all eligible votes, not 50% of the votes cast. If there is no clear winner the seat is vacant, but a new election is scheduled for two weeks later. Districts and states that don’t care to vote simply don’t get a say.
            • cowlevel5 hours ago
              What if people keep not voting? Surely you'd also have to compel voting to make this work.

              And what if there are, say, ten candidates?

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          • _DeadFred_7 hours ago
            Because people in safe demographics (non minority, no care about reproductive rights) love to broadcast 'both sides are the same'.
            • NoidFonsense7 hours ago
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              • airstrike7 hours ago
                It was more like Obama was so cool and had so much panache he won despite having an extremely incompetent team...and then both he and his team believed he won because of them and proceeded to self-sabotage the DNC from within.

                To be clear, I'm not excusing him. I think he was very cool indeed but ultimately a weak president that lacked in leadership before and after his term

              • user-6 hours ago
                >NoidFonsense.

                This is a dogwhistling incel username.

              • cluckindan6 hours ago
                What do you think makes a person left-wing or left-leaning?
              • KerrAvon7 hours ago
                oh yeah? which attitudes do you take issue with?
                • airstrike7 hours ago
                  Feels like you're trying to bait them instead of engaging in good faith.
                  • cowlevel5 hours ago
                    Baiting them into... revealing what their argument is?
          • Blackthorn7 hours ago
            The New England Patriots lost the 2026 Superbowl, and that list of losers includes all the second and third stringers who didn't play.
    • Revanche13676 hours ago
      If this was in another country that is not predominantly inhabited by people of western/central European heritage, US mainstream media would've been calling these "undercover" agents the "secret police" or "stasi" or some other term heavily connotated with tyranny and oppression.
  • morkalork6 hours ago
    So who's going to cross-reference the list with the J6 peeps?
  • ck28 hours ago
    Not sure how I feel about this but I am sure about one thing

    There should never ever be a masked police force in this country, it's disgusting

    Think about all the things we've written off in the past two years and faded from the news

    Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

    And all bets are off for the next two years, looks like Dems will get the Senate but even then they can't stop the scorched-earth that is coming

    • drop_star8 hours ago
      Remember when these people had issues wearing masks (Covid). Now all of a sudden its not a problem.
      • ck28 hours ago
        I am not so sure people started saying "this is fine"

        more like he started 1000 other fires, several each week if not a new one each day to make far worse problems

        It's not just the most corrupt administration, it's the most chaos and definitely by design

        btw all investigations dropped for the execution of two citizens, I mean that's definitely not fine with anyone, just way too many other problems going on now at the same time

        well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

        • ryandrake8 hours ago
          > well there's no statute of limitations on murder at least, so 800 more days

          This assumes The Other Side will do anything if they do get into power. My prediction: A milquetoast moderate leads the (D)'s and declares: "In the interest of unity and moving forward, we will not go after anyone in the previous administration. Let us all hold hands and get past this with minimal drama... They have pinkey promised they will never behave this way again when they get to power, and we believe them."

          • KerrAvon7 hours ago
            The Democratic base is way too angry for that to fly this time. If Jeffries tries it he'll be removed as speaker.
            • spencerflem6 hours ago
              Democratic politicians are the ones that could remove the speaker, not voters.
        • dabinat6 hours ago
          Part of the problem is that the justice system is as slow as molasses. They tried to hold him accountable for things he did in his first term and four years wasn’t long enough.
          • JumpCrisscrossan hour ago
            > They tried to hold him accountable for things he did in his first term and four years wasn’t long enough

            This was mostly Merrick Garland being a muppet.

          • wredcoll6 hours ago
            Eh, owning the supreme court helps a lot. It moves pretty quickly when it needs to protect trump.
      • toomuchtodo8 hours ago
        It's wrong when they feel like it infringes on them, it's okay when it empowers and emboldens them to cause harm to others without repercussions.
      • pixelatedindex8 hours ago
        It feels more like a reverse psyop, like “look we are wearing masks now, isn’t this what you wanted”?

        As long as the sides keep reducing common ground, the farther away from government for the people, by the people we go.

        • wredcoll6 hours ago
          Tell me more about how "the sides" are reducing "common ground"?
        • bediger40008 hours ago
          Again, let's think of two children fighting over their shares of a cookie. Child A says he should get all of the cookie. Child B says that wouldn't be fair, the cookie should be split evenly, half and half.

          The adult in the room decides to promote common ground, and gives 75% of the cookie to A and 25% to B.

          • denkmoon7 hours ago
            who exactly is the adult in the room supposed to be in this analogy? There _is_ no adult in the room, just the two children.
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            • thrance7 hours ago
              The adult in the room here is the moralizing "enlightened centrist" that puts bothsideism in every conversation about politics.
              • DeluluDon6 hours ago
                Just remember that 1984 is fiction and not an instruction manual. Try not to get too authoritarian over demographics (any and all of them).
                • cowlevel5 hours ago
                  This appears to be a complete non sequitur. Did you reply to the wrong comment by mistake?
    • SchemaLoad7 hours ago
      There's going to be massive trials over the next few years. So many people are going to have accountability catch back up to them. Maybe not the ultra rich but all these ICE goons shooting people on the street will be held accountable.
      • aYsY4dDQ2NrcNzA6 hours ago
        I Want to Believe
        • analognoise3 hours ago
          They’re already starting state level charges against some of them. There’s definitely accountability coming.
    • NDlurker3 hours ago
      >Like military helicopters landing on a city building and them blowing the doors off all the apartments dragging everyone from their apartments

      I don't know what this is referencing

      Edit: what the fuck https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/helicopters-tear-gas-b...

    • sheepscreek7 hours ago
      Anytime I see one I can’t shake off the feeling I got when I first saw Watchmen. I thought “this is so dystopian and bizarre; so out there”. Didn’t have this in my bingo card for the decade.
    • havnagiggle8 hours ago
      The Senate can hold people in contempt with a 50% vote. So they could do something to reign in the fascists starting January, but I'm not holding my breath. And that's still a long road.
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      • ck28 hours ago
        Senate has no mechanism to prosecute contempt charges

        That goes to the DOJ, which of course means nothing happens, at least for next 800 days

      • jfengel8 hours ago
        That opens a can of worms that you're never going to close.

        Maybe this is such an emergency that it's worth the risk. But the risk is extremely high; if you do it to them, even with the best of reasons, they are going to do it back to you for any reason they can think of.

        • anon848736287 hours ago
          Hence why it is important to be thorough.

          Plus they will do it anyway. There is no shame or honor regulating their behavior.

          Accountability is what was missed last time and is the only way forward.

        • wredcoll6 hours ago
          God I am tired of this argument.

          What you're saying is that "we" shouldn't enforce the law because "they" will break the law in response.

          Aside from being inherently morally bankrupt, they'rw already breaking the law.

        • nilamo7 hours ago
          Good! Both sides should be prosecuting each other over violating the constitution.
          • wredcoll6 hours ago
            Hey remember when we had a 2 (plus?) Year trial over whether or not the president had sex with someone other than his wife? Something about family values or morality or whatever they said at the time?
            • fn-mote4 hours ago
              What’s your point?
        • SpicyLemonZest3 hours ago
          "They" are currently trying to deport Ilhan Omar, a sitting Democratic senator. Donald Trump has repeatedly stated that he's illegally running in the 2028 Presidential election. How much more open can a can of worms be?
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    • nonethewiser7 hours ago
      Many will say that they wouldn’t need to protect their safety and privacy if they werent doing something wrong.

      But in terms of if its ever appropriate for law enforcement to wear masks, isnt the question if its ever possible to threaten a law enforcement officers safety who isnt doing something wrong?

      The FEDs wear masks in cartel operations all the time and that seems fine.

      • ethin7 hours ago
        I'm not really sure what your getting at. The entire reason that masked LEs are opposed is because (1) it makes it impossible to hold them to account and (2) it makes it trivial to impersonate any LE (ICE hasn't exactly tried all that hard to make special gear for themselves, just buying what's on EBay and similar, so literally anyone could just buy the same gear they're using and impersonate an ICE officer, and since ICE doesn't like identifying themselves, you would have no immediate way of distinguishing between a random citizen who wants to ruff you up or murder you versus a LEO)
        • KerrAvon6 hours ago
          Yup. This is not okay. It should be illegal. Maybe it is, IANAL. This person didn't know whether she was getting arrested or kidnapped or why. On top of which this is unnecessary brutality on the face of it. This needs to stop.

          https://kotaku.com/umamusume-pretty-derby-cosplay-clara-tan-...

          > As she hits the sidewalk, Tan hears what she describes as “a godawful crack” come from her foot, and then realizes she’s being cuffed behind her back. “I’m being kidnapped and I have no idea who these men are,” Tan writes. She’s dragged to an unmarked SUV, thrown in the back, and claims to have heard one of the men say, “This could all have been avoided if you’d just come quietly.”

      • dabinat6 hours ago
        They don’t have a right to privacy when they’re at work. The Supreme Court has said it is legal to film officers, including their faces, while carrying out their duties.
  • resters6 hours ago
    At first I hoped that fears about ICE abuses were overblown, but then I saw video after video of masked, badge-free agents manhandling and throwing grandmas and elderly/weak people to the ground and generally acting like thugs, stalking immigration courts for people trying to comply, doing nazi salutes, etc. It quickly became clear that ICE is largely made up of KKK or proud boy thugs who see it as a chance to brutalize a vulnerable population that they despise.

    Now that this data has been leaked, identities can be correlated with facial recognition, gait analysis, and other biometrics to conclusively identify the agents who committed crimes. Much of the video footage shows agents flagrantly breaking the law, abusing power, violating the rights of citizens and noncitizens alike.

    Now that his leak has occurred, criminal ICE agents will be brought to justice for many of the crimes committed already, and the data will also inform the prosecution of crimes they will likely commit during the rest of Trump's term in office. Many of the crimes are violations of state law, so there is nothing the executive branch can do to stop the prosecutions.

    • blacklion6 hours ago
      Do you really believe in this?

      You can see fate of Guantamo's officers and their chain of command. As far as I remember, nobody was really punished, several people were dismissed, but with full pension.

      • JumpCrisscrossan hour ago
        > Do you really believe in this?

        I do. Guantanamo wasn't killing American citizens.

      • wyre5 hours ago
        Are you really asking if OP believes that ICE agents should face justice for the crimes and abuse they have committed?
        • cowlevel5 hours ago
          I think they're asking if GGP believes they will face justice. GGP used the word "will".
    • reallydoingthis5 hours ago
      Link the videos?
  • wigster7 hours ago
    oh dear
  • mnd9997 hours ago
    Boo hoo
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    • slowin8 hours ago
      Why would this be tragic? The public absolutely has a right to know who these people are. No one is forcing them to join these organizations.
      • elonsmusk8 hours ago
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        • pixelatedindex8 hours ago
          > antifa supporters on HN

          Come again? If you have umbrage against antifa, surely you’re pro fascist?

          > Most Americans remember how we couldn't even question COVID, DEI or kneeling for blacks and support law enforcement efforts

          What do they even have anything to do with each other, except for them being right-wing talking points?

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          • DaSHacka7 hours ago
            > Come again? If you have umbrage against antifa, surely you’re pro fascist?

            Just because they call themselves "antifa" doesn't mean its accurate. If the nazis referred to themselves as the "free puppies for everyone and world peace organization", it would not change anything about the morality of their party or the acts committed by them, despite the name.

            • cowlevel5 hours ago
              as a matter of fact the Nazis did refer to themselves as the "national socialist German worker's party" even though they weren't any of that.
    • bix68 hours ago
      > obtained from a group calling itself the Department of Peace.
    • phs318u8 hours ago
      The data is said to have been “vetted and cleaned up” and the front end is designed to navigate the hierarchy.

      The leak was via a compromised Okta SSO login (why anyone still uses them is a complete mystery to me).

  • phs318u8 hours ago
    This is a dupe. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50280691

    The Techdirt article also links to the searchable front end to the dump.

    https://icepi.cx/

    • paaloeye8 hours ago
      Not really
      • phs318u8 hours ago
        Yes really.
        • Jtsummers7 hours ago
          Per dang in many previous comments, it's not a dupe. Multiple submissions of the same topic are fine, it's only (maybe) a dupe when a discussion starts or it's actually the same submission. You linked to a submission with 0 comments submitted a whopping 15 minutes earlier. This one is the one that got traction, neither is a dupe. If someone submits it again, now that there is a discussion, or submits the same Wired article, then those would be dupes.
        • paaloeye7 hours ago
          wired vs something I've personally never heard before article vs a few paragraphs + image

          Not really.

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          • phs318u3 hours ago
            Not sure whether your or my having heard of a site before necessarily discounts it, especially given the closeness (or at least fear) of many larger media outlets with this administration.

            Having said that, I couldn’t see the full article on Wired. I don’t have an account and I suspect many don’t. I could see it via archive.is.

        • nvr2197 hours ago
          Maybe really.
  • TacticalCoder7 hours ago
    At this rate soon it's going to be very suspicious if someone is not part of any leak ; )
  • morkalork6 hours ago
    Awfully convenient happening days before the midterm elections. Is this the precursor to a declaration of emergency? Perhaps after an act violence that was enabled by the leak?
    • ehwa374 hours ago
      No this is not.
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  • paaloeye6 hours ago
    So cool, terrorist Karen can now easily email/LinkedIn/whatever escalate to a skip-level manager if an officer is misbehaving.
    • dlahoda6 hours ago
      I can now without leak. 5 top out of 11 levels of managers in leak seems tend to have LinkedIn anyway.
  • sailfast6 hours ago
    Whatever your feelings about ICE and this administration, there are probably some undercover folks in real danger at the moment. Probably doing some real work to stop some real abuses that you’d want them to stop. (Not saying all - but likely some / many to be in that program)

    So - while I might agree that secretive domestic organizations like MI5 should not exist and sunlight is good for government, I feel for the families of the folks that might catch a bullet because of this.

    • simoncion6 hours ago
      > Whatever your feelings about ICE and this administration, there are probably some undercover folks in real danger at the moment.

      I'll say the same thing that no one with access to a microphone said during the 2013 NSA data leaks:

      What makes you think that the Bad Guys didn't already have access to this information? The folks that should have detected this clearly didn't. [0] Given that the Good Guys didn't learn about this until it was made public, neither they nor we have any idea of knowing how many Bad Guys have been siphoning off this data and for how long.

      [0] In this specific incident, Okta appears to be claiming that there has been no breach despite claims that it is the source of the information. Back in 2013 -given that the NSA would often claim something that would be quickly countered by the publication of yet another leaked document- it was pretty clear that the NSA had little idea of what data had been released to the press.

      • sailfast6 hours ago
        I’m not saying that at all. I’m merely suggesting that there’s potential that non-state actors like a local human smuggling ring, drug ring, or human trafficking operation may now be able to easily type in some name and figure out they have been infiltrated.

        Of course it’s possible some bad guys had this. But probably not all of them.

        EDIT: I would also not equate these leaks to the NSA leaks in terms of resources and sophistication required to know about the NSA programs vs potential public access on the open internet with this one. Resources and intelligence required seems quite a higher bar, but that’s just me being an armchair quarterback.

        • simoncion5 hours ago
          > I’m merely suggesting that there’s potential that non-state actors like a local human smuggling ring, drug ring, or human trafficking operation may now be able to easily type in some name and figure out they have been infiltrated.

          ...what exactly do you imagine the Bad Guys would do with the information that they've likely been siphoning off of the systems of ICE and -in the past- the NSA? Do you imagine that they'd be exclusively distributing it via Sneakernet? Just like the Good Guys, the Bad Guys also have access to IT guys who know how to set up a login portal... and the well-resourced ones are totally capable of setting up things akin to SIPRNet.

          • sailfast4 hours ago
            I’ll update my threat model to include sophisticated non-state human traffickers or smugglers that are all sharing intel with each other if that’s what you’re suggesting? Or perhaps just selling in the dark to whomever is buying? Sounds like you know this is happening?

            I’m not making a good guy / bad guy judgment here FWIW. I do, however, find it less likely a smaller scale non-state operation would bother hacking a government agency or buying info on the open market. Sounds like it’s a higher priority than I thought.

            Makes sense for larger orgs at higher levels - but I admit my mental model didn’t think about parallel private attempts to exploit, sell, use and otherwise secure comms. It was a blind spot. Seemed too leaky and obvious given the incentives to leak information - but I clearly don’t understand bad guys very well.

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    • chneu6 hours ago
      Hell nah. They signed up for this. They knew exactly what their mission was. Stop defending people who were recruited to deport, and in many cases assault, innocent people.

      Making lame excuses for "the good guys" reinforces that these people are doing good. They arent.

      Your excuse will be used against you as soon as it's convenient to them.

      • reallydoingthis6 hours ago
        And who's going to make them pay? You? What do you have planned? Can you take the heat after?
      • sailfast6 hours ago
        I don’t personally believe that everyone at ICE is specifically focused on this administration’s efforts (most are of course and many have quit in protest). In the past, the agency has done work that you’d probably want done around human smuggling and trafficking, anti-terrorism (actual terrorism) etc, and I wouldn’t paint all agents with such a broad brush. People stick around in the hopes they can do a good job again when the next guy lands. Sometimes!

        Anyway - I just wanted to point out that these things can have consequences in the real world for people that aren’t necessarily the evil people you paint a picture of in your head. This isn’t a “oh just a few bad apples” thing - on the contrary that agency is quite rotten and should be disbanded.

        Not a value judgment. Just sayin’ that this dump is 53+ certified undercover legal names out in the open.

        • spl7575 hours ago
          ICE, today, is an illegal militia that appears to have killed at least 3 citizens in cold blood. Bad actors get away with it when good actors look the other way and do nothing. If you work for ICE right now, you know just how unpopular they have become. You have to bend the knee to be in this administration, so FAFO I guess.
          • sailfastan hour ago
            Unfortunately it’s very much a legal militia until proven otherwise.

            Know that you don’t have to bend the knee to work for the government. You still have your oath, your union, and the knowledge that this ends in two years. Many have left, but not all. Those who stayed don’t necessarily agree or like what is happening.

        • reallydoingthis5 hours ago
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    • aliasxneo5 hours ago
      Literally had to scroll to the bottom of the thread to find any sort of sensible comment. HN is in such sad state these days. Sorry you were downvoted by the radicals.