https://elpais.com/espana/2026-10-28/por-que-han-chocado-dos...
An automated system[*] had failed earlier this morning, so controllers were working manually.
[*] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linienzugbeeinflussung ("LZB")
[added translation]: "The LZB safety system, which controls Spain's high-speed rail network, malfunctioned on Wednesday morning, causing about eight trains to come to a halt in the area. The control center then switched to manual control and ordered all trains to resume operation. However, the Iryo, for reasons that remain unclear, was unable to start and remained stationary. And that is where human error came into play, according to these initial hypotheses."
Journalists who actually do work that feeds our AI should be paid and their paid resources should be linked.
99% of original content from "journalists" are worthless opinion pieces.
Nobody's saying journalists shouldn't be paid. But that doesn't mean all public access to public news should be paywalled.
The whole world has sub fatigue. I can't sub to everything.
Segway: make the internet itself a paid subscription and then have a profit sharing model for all content generators. Ban ads. Shit, make it something covered through taxes that governments around the world support and have billionaires subsidize it more heavily.
(Excluding suicides/people falling on tracks, that is. And that one poor student in 1995 who got stuck in the door of a departing train and was dragged to his death.)
As of writing the article says 10. Other sources, sadly, indicate up to 39.
> "Due to a system malfunction, the elevator will be out of service longer than usual," the public address system announces. The minister laments, "Oh, for heaven's sake. As if we didn't have enough to deal with already with Renfe."
Very funny minister...
[1] https://www.lasexta.com/programas/cara-show-marc-giro/oscar-...
Says the Spanish train crash in Jan of this year that killed 46 was the "same operators on the same line."
Perhaps the synchronization between renfe and others is a weak point in the system. Decades of assuming that everything in the network is theirs, increased wear and tear, etc.
People rag on the USA refusing to allow higher speeds without PTC but their system is very simple and it works (it throws the train into emergency if it passes a red signal by physically knocking out the air).
People rag on the USA refusing to allow higher speeds without PTC
Both the maintenance issue and bad systems that lead to human error creating this crash need to be taken responsability by the public system and fix them.
Which, in the USA at least, severely limits speed you're allowed to use (because once the only thing between you and gory death is a human, eventually that human makes a mistake).
Sorry to make a political statement with this tragedy, but the downgrade in Spain in recent years is just too much.
DEP and my condolences to the relatives and love ones.
I don't know of any country where this is not the case
The dismantling of public services, of which the maintenance of train tracks is part of it, has been done by all kinds of governing parties in Spain, and the cuts have been greater when a right wing government was in place.
To shift all the blame to just the latest ones in power is manipulative at best.
The current government has been in power for more than 8 years. Eight years. To deflect blame to a currently non existent right wing movement is real mental gymnastics on your end.
Close collaborators of the current president are in jail due to corruption, much of it from stealing from ADIF.
It's the second time in a year something like this happens.
All my thoughts go to the victims of this tragedy.
The public minister of transport is still on his chair after the last ones. No responsability admited and blaming the far right for attacking him with media.
Is amazing how the current politic scene at spain has shittified, they get away with everything and ppl will still clap for them.
> “A human error by an [state-owned railway infrastructure company] Adif operator in response to a malfunction in the main signaling system is the likely cause of the accident,” government sources said. This safety system is automated, but when it fails, it switches to manual mode. That is why the trains came to a stop when the automatic safety system failed, and service resumed under human control — and that is where the error occurred, according to initial analyses.
This is not the first time something broadly like that happens. In 2013 another train crashed because there was a section of the track where the operator had to manually adjust the speed, and he didn't.
One would think that the operation of these trains would be fully automated at all times, and with sufficient allowances to handle emergencies safely.
Point in case: Japan has not had a single death due to a crash of a high speed train, even though they have been operating an extensive network for decades.
so much for European safety, now compare it to volumes on Chinese HSR and number of deaths there compared to Spain
edit: inconvenient truth for downvoters?
50 according one of the biggesr Spanish newspapers, just open the homepage, you can read 50 even in Spanish
so thanks everyone for downvotes just because you use slow news sources or deny the truth EU high speed trains are extremely dangerous compared to China on deaths/volume
I know there have been other Spanish train crashes in recent years but does you're pointing to all of Europe. Source?
also one of the 3 major czech stations reporting at least 46
https://tn.nova.cz/zpravodajstvi/clanek/660035-srazka-rychlo...
if you open one of the biggest newspapers in Spain they report already 50 dead
So thanks for giving me downvotes just because you use outdated news sources!
That leaves the Europe claims, as it stands your comparison would be Spanish railways vs Chinese.
You must have an incredibly high P(h)...
French riots? Russia
Spain train accident? Russia
Right wing party wins? Russia
Rainy weekend? Russia
This is gonna add fuel to the fire, and as I lived in East Asia (Hong Kong to be specific) I'm kind of curious why it all happened around the eurozone lately.
France, Albania, Belgium, Spain, Greece, UK and Serbia recently (although it is not eurozone but closely related anyway as part of the great Balkans). What's left? Germany and Poland I guess?
Anyhow it really reminds me of the First World War