Career politician'? LOL. Lula started out as a metalworker and union leader, whereas Flávio Bolsonaro entered politics at age 21 on his father's name and has been a politician literally his entire adult life (state deputy from 2003 to 2019, and senator since 2019). Also, Brazil has separation of powers—it’s the Supreme Court (STF) and electoral courts that prosecute coup attempts, not the president. Do basic research on Brazilian politics before commenting; I’m not wasting my time educating you.

He also has an Italian passport, so that probably won't be a hindrance.

Yeah but he’s actually a refugee fleeing political persecution, not an economic refugee. The US has and continues to support legitimate refugees

what about the rotting of a brain in a propaganda mind prison?

I'm sure the list wasn't intended to be exhaustive

There is a gradient of corruption. 'Some' Corruption does not equal = Full on Corruption & Dictatorship goals, which suppresses the opposition and freedom of speech and kills people in broad daylight.

Some corruption you could argue always existed, e.g. military-industrial complex Eisenhower(!) already warned against in his farewell address as President 60 years ago [0].

While that sort of corruption has certainly spread and is the root of what makes people's life miserable, the same forces turn the people's anger around via propaganda and their Social Media CEO henchmen to vote for fascists/authoritarians blaming scapegoats - which, if they come into power, leads to only support even more corruption and degradation. Same trajectory as pre-WW2 - hopefully this time we will make the necessary root-cause adjustments before the world population has to suffer for the greed of a very few.

[0] https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/president-dwigh...

> but he's made plenty of money himself using his position.

proof?

Nobody is even trying to claim that.

There are many people complaining that the supreme court should have said which of his crimes this is about, but his allies are not even trying to defend him.

Well, the most recent would be a conspiracy to fuck with public transit on election day, perhaps they could start with that, determine the degree of his culpability and involvement, and then keep going in reverse chronological order. Then they could go after corruption, the usual sort of stuff.

His dad's doing time for a coup and an attempted assassination, and his brother's been convicted of coercing the judiciary, by getting Trump to punish Brazil for his dad's conviction. It's a perfectly normal sort of family, this stuff could have happened to anyone.

> Depends on who you're aligned with

Trump or Putin? Is there a difference?

Guess that's their final destination if Trumpo losses in November and will be forced with the rest of the coward-criminals to face their crimes.

PS: I hear Thiel has already bought a large estate in Argentina (yeah, where those WW2 war-criminals also escaped to) in case their fascist government wet-dream doesn't come to be.

that's not what he said. unless this reputable source is misquoting, which is not at all common. it's also not implied.

Has the USA ever shied away from causing a political crisis?

He doesn't think that far ahead. He'll be like "we'll grab Lula and install our guy", without thinking about what happens the next day.

In Israel? No, polls close at 20:00 UTC, which is almost two hours from now.