39 pointsby cdrnsf4 hours ago11 comments
  • siva73 hours ago
    I know you people here don't like to hear this. Proton makes this process very open. Other companies are doing silent layoffs by calling employees back to office, granting generous buyout packages for leaving the company or offering retraining and removing them from their previous roles (while granting those few they want to keep every wish).
    • greggoB2 hours ago
      While the article is light on details and so at risk of getting ahead of things, what concerns me is the incentives this creates for said employees.

      In addition to that, it possibly highlights a worry about where Proton's priorities are - as a paying customer of a secure email service, should I be concerned that that part of them business is increasingly paying second-fiddle?

  • ro_sharp2 hours ago
    > These re-interviews are consequential

    An open process with a clear rationale is better than a secret process, e.g. company wide surveys that are later used to determine whether you keep your job…

    Whether this actually leads to improved productivity and better products is TBD, of course.

  • CoastalCoderan hour ago
    I had been considering Proton as a way to de-Google myself.

    I'm glad to learn about this before pulling the trigger.

    • nextaccountic42 minutes ago
      I really recommend owning your own domain, and getting zohomail.

      It offers a free account with custom domains (which means your account won't get deactived just for non payment), and it otherwise doesn't get in the way. And if it does, you can just switch to another provider.

  • MrDresden3 hours ago
    Yeah ok. Time for me to go find a new home for my email.
  • iAMkenoughan hour ago
    It’ll sort itself out. Whether they intend to or not, they’re “re-aligning” their customer base too with this decision.

    The talented people that built their products will continue to build products for customers that no longer align with Proton’s c-suite philosophy/politics.

    It’s a free market!

  • BiraIgnacio2 hours ago
    sooo... performance reviews?
  • righthand2 hours ago
    The C-suites are all nuts for LLMs. The craziest ones are trying to force their employees to adopt and be constantly sharing novel uses of Llms. What I have mostly seen as the usage by most coworkers usually involves using AI to take their notes and create a presentation or automate some tedious work. Essentially glue and pipe software program output together. One use case in particular had a coworker building find/replace macros by feeding slideshow slides to the agent describing how the macro should work. C-suite eats this shit up because they’re using “AI at work!”.
    • ee3aa30 minutes ago
      Im absolutely convinced the further you are way from the ground floor - the more delusional you are re. AI's capabilities and abilities w.r.t contribution.
  • JoeBOFH4 hours ago
    And now my opinion has soured on Proton and I am a paying client.
  • lazzurs3 hours ago
    This seems like a shitty way to approach this. Would love to hear from Proton on this.
  • ee3aa31 minutes ago
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  • dude2507113 hours ago
    The actual Proton job interview (probably): "No, candidate, you are not allowed to use AI during the interview.".
    • Atotalnooban hour ago
      At my company we explicitly tell candidates what parts they can do with and without AI.

      It’s not hypocritical like you seem to be implying. It’s seeing you still have a brain and can do the job with or without the tools. Otherwise we would just prompt AI ourselves…

    • jdlshore3 hours ago
      This isn't reddit. Please don't post cynical fantasies.
      • kdkcndicndjc3 hours ago
        They’re in all likelihood right though.
    • ro_sharpan hour ago
      So what? There’s only so much interview time, and you need the fundamentals before you can safely use LLMs to speed up.

      IMO if you’re going to run an interview that uses coding agents etc it belongs at the end of an interview pipeline.