186 pointsby edent3 hours ago18 comments
  • jeromechoo16 minutes ago
    As an eng who spent over a decade on frontend and hasn’t touched CSS since last November, I’m ecstatic for this news.

    Nothing a frontier LLM has built me in the last year has been satisfactory to me. Every detail was shipped after millions of tokens stripping back and optimizing what Fable/Opus started doing.

    The process is leaner and faster, but frontend isn’t “solved” just because LLMs exist.

  • sikozu2 hours ago
    I didn't expect this.

    While I do believe that selling to DigitalOcean was a mistake ultimately, I'm concerned about the long time viability of this move considering the current landscape of web development.

    Don't get me wrong, I think CSS-Tricks is a great resource and it has helped me over the years, but if I was in Geoff's shoes right now I'd be pretty scared.

    Look at TailwindCSS for example, they had to reduce the size of their team and ended up joining Shopify to continue surviving. It is hard out here these days.

    I don't want to sound too doom and gloom, so I wish Geoff the best of luck and I hope he succeeds.

    • codingdave2 hours ago
      > I'd be pretty scared.

      Scared of what, exactly? It looks to me like the site is primarily static content, so operational costs should be reasonable. He could scale down to just static content, and even if traffic decrease, it is not an existential crisis. Or am I missing something?

      • cael450an hour ago
        The cost of purchasing the property from digital ocean and the cost of his team.
      • webdood90an hour ago
        How does one pull a 6 figure salary from a blog site in 2026?
        • beepbooptheoryan hour ago
          Run a relatively small political Substack and just bide your time till you get picked to run CBS News.
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          • moffkalast33 minutes ago
            Become an alt right grifter and get paid by billionaires' bots to help destroy democracy.
    • meeritaan hour ago
      The guys made some money, it's not bad idea, specially knowing nobody cares now tutorials on internet with the era of agentic development. See StackOverflow, it's dead. They did the right thing when selling this.
      • jmawan hour ago
        CSS-Tricks was sold to Digital Ocean a while back. Now it's been purchased by an individual again. Someone who used to work on it back in the day
        • meeritaan hour ago
          I bet they bought it for a tenth of the price they've sold it.
          • gkobergeran hour ago
            It's the opposite... Digital Ocean bought it for $4M; I bet they sold it for $0 (rather than shut it down).

            (EDIT: oh maybe you're saying the same thing and I misunderstood?)

    • lifeisloving2 hours ago
      Llms are not good at web design or writing css, this art form will live on for a long time to come. It is art, I dont care what people say, and as we all know machines mostly suck at creating art. Anthropic claims to have started training in "taste", but im sure they've realized that cannot be distilled into vector embeddings. Taste is somewhat empheral and is dictated by society and culture that machines can't experience.

      In fact, I think it will have more staying power than most, if not all of web dev domains of expertise.

      Theres simply no "soul" behind llm crafted websites. There are companies out there, like lovable et al who sell the idea that web design is solved but are still hiring six figure retainer design firms to do their frontend.

      I believe the best web platforms will heavily invest in human crafted UI/UX because that is what will make you stand out. The rest will get thrown on the slop pile and forgotten.

      • bloomca2 hours ago
        I see your point and I agree that ultimately web design will be incredibly hard to automate, probably harder than almost any other programming domain, where people will likely stay for accountability reasons.

        But the thing is that for the vast majority of web pages/applications, it barely matters what does the design look like, especially for B2B/internal apps. All the dashboards, CRMs, tracking tools, etc -- these exist mostly for functional requirements, so the design just needs to be inoffensive.

        B2C market might hold longer, but ultimately there might emerge some sort of higher-level design specification language which would sidestep the original problem or being too recognizable.

      • NoDodgeQuestion2 hours ago
        AI model taste is not good, but taste is easy and many cheap human have soul, only hard part is memorize CSS trivia, I predict cost of UI/UX go down and CSS education business also go down
      • psygn89an hour ago
        I shared your sentiment maybe a year+ ago when it comes to css, and I do think it's one of the areas AI in general struggles with (where art and code meet), but it's a lot better today with the latest OpenAI and Anthropic models as someone that works on design systems for a living (for now). It follows stylistic patterns, it can inspect the issue in the browser and have a better understanding of CSS upstream effects than it used to (it used to suck at this and paint itself into a corner over and over like some game of whack-a-mole), and can even tackle things using latest interop features.

        It does make really silly mistakes now and then, like using fallback css variables in the wrong order, but they are fewer and farther in between.

        "I believe the best web platforms will heavily invest in human crafted UI/UX because that is what will make you stand out. The rest will get thrown on the slop pile and forgotten."

        Agreed!

      • Legend24402 hours ago
        You can just make a mockup in whatever tool you want, and pour your 'art' and 'soul' into that.

        Then hand it to the LLM and it'll make CSS to match.

        • reaperducer38 minutes ago
          Spoken like someone who's never actually put their art and soul into a mockup and asked an LLM to make CSS to match.
    • ramesh31an hour ago
      >"I'm concerned about the long time viability of this move considering the current landscape of web development."

      I owe Coyier and CSS Tricks a huge debt to getting my career started in the 2000s. It's loss will be tragic. But web development (as we knew it) has gone the way of elevator operators. Dead and gone. Good on the guys for getting their bag while it still had some value.

  • grahamburgeran hour ago
    I run a similar-in-spirit site about starting from scratch on a project and getting to something functional. I tried both ads and courses, in my case neither were very successful. The most success I had was in offering to do the things the site tells you how to do in exchange for money. That's been my full time job for the last 6 years. I don't know if that's workable in the UI/UX world.

    I've done only a small amount of web-design work over the years, but I can imagine that, if I landed on CSS-tricks trying to work out a tricky (to me) CSS or usability problem where LLMs had been failing me, and I had a quick and easy option to pay a few hundred dollars and meet with the guy who wrote the book, I might do that. That's also how I got a lot of my first customers in my current business; I offered paid phone calls where a user could pay a nominal rate and ask some upfront questions about a project they were working on. Many of those calls turned in to longer contracts, and the fee kept out the folks who were just looking to sell me something.

    A lot of my customers have been organizations whose focus is not my industry, but, for one reason or another, they needed something done that fits in my wheelhouse. This means they don't (yet) want to hire this expertise and build processes internally, so they're willing to pay my premium rates. Perhaps there is a way to target these types of companies with custom services in the space.

    • schneemsan hour ago
      Not sure how it holds up in this day and age but a common setup was to have 3 products: free, cheap, expensive.

      The free one gets people in the door. Cheap is could be something like a book or paid tool or course. And the "expensive" would usually be consulting but could also be a more premium tool or retainer service.

      So your suggestion seems to fit the model.

      I know LLMs will change the developer education landscape but I really hope it doesn't kill it. Interesting times.

      • therealpygonan hour ago
        I think you mean free, expensive, and slightly even more expensive.
        • order-matters26 minutes ago
          just because you can optimize your pricing for maximum value extraction from your customer doesnt mean you have to
        • _doctor_love35 minutes ago
          That's a different model. Both are valid.
  • mmoustafa18 minutes ago
    Can you give me proper credit on https://css-tricks.com/tricky-textarea-pulltab/?

    Chris acknowledged credit in the comments but never updated the "I saw it maybe a year ago but I can’t for the life of me remember where." after I pointed out that he had seen and commented on my Codepen* of this trick.

    * https://codepen.io/mmoustafa/details/kabEgo

  • CM3030 minutes ago
    Nice! Digital Ocean was definitely not a great owner for the site, and it clearly wasn't treated as much of a priority under their ownership. Hopefully Geoff will give it the attention it deserves, especially given he's already the most active contributor there.
  • anticorporate28 minutes ago
    I wish I didn't have such a bleak outlook for community-focused tech publishing. Sites like LWN and 404 Media seem to be hanging on, but they're more likely the exceptions that prove the rule.

    My paycheck for the better part of a decade came from publications run by a large tech company in an arrangement not too dissimilar from DO's relationship with CSS-Tricks. It was great while it lasted, but shortly after I left it was the first thing on the chopping block when the layoffs started. That was 3-4 years ago and the landscape for quality tech publishing hasn't gotten any easier.

  • willio582 hours ago
    Did DigitalOcean forget they owned CSS-Tricks? Because that's what seemed to have happened based on the limited notes on the subject I've read in the past few weeks.
    • lifeisloving2 hours ago
      They got occupied by donating millions to slop AI linux and leeching off of open source with no contributions.

      Theres a single solo developer who donated 40k this year to postgres, their name is next to AWS on contributors. Digital ocean sells scam postgres services for newbs and has never contributed a dime (afaik).

      Complete slop overpriced cloud platform now too thats leaned way to hard into AI nobody goes to them for.

  • yurishimoan hour ago
    Awesome! Really happy for Geoff to be afforded the opportunity to bring CSS Tricks back to life.

    Just goes to show that you can always make the world a better place with a little bit of luck and a lot of well placed effort. Kudos also to the pressure people put on Digital Ocean to do right by CSS Tricks and kudos to DO for allowing Geoff to take the site independent after their priorities changed.

  • ksymph2 hours ago
    It's a bold move. Educational material -- particularly frontend -- is an ever-shrinking pie, so Geoff is betting on claiming a very large share of that. I hope it pays off.
    • pwython34 minutes ago
      I'm sure it will be a great resource for LLMs to read.

      But seriously, good luck to them. I used to make Photoshop tutorials before YouTube, and it was a lot of fun. When YouTube came around, all the eyeballs went there, rightfully so -- videos made more sense for Photoshop. But I didn't have it in me to pivot.

      And these days you don't even have to know how to do things like mask objects. There's one-click solutions, there's generative fill, light matching, face filters, etc. Hell, you can rotate a 2d layer in 3d now. Soon, live prompting in Photoshop will be the norm.

  • OtherShrezzing2 hours ago
    This has recently been a fairly wild journey to watch from the outside.

    Best of luck to Graham. I've got no idea how they'll make CSS-Tricks work as an indy blog in this era, but I hope they do make it work.

  • fitsumbelayan hour ago
    Renaming guest writers "urkels" is pretty cute

    "You urkel, yet? I've no idea why I waited so long ..."

    "Duuuude just urkel and boost your professional/career visibility"

  • gherkinnn2 hours ago
    I remember learning the very basics of webdev from CSS Tricks. Years and years ago. They've been with me for my entire career and I am happy to see them independent again.
  • colesantiago16 minutes ago
    Don't do ads.
  • sixtyj2 hours ago
    Independent publishing is very important but really tough, as curl can serve as an example.

    Ads, affil, ebooks, membership, voluntary payments (Wikipedia’s fundraising header can be used as template)… Implement everything and don’t be shy.

  • sobiolite2 hours ago
    Good luck, I guess, but in 2026 "CSS Tricks" seems about as relevant as "PostScript Tricks" or "Office Open XML Tricks". Human manipulation of CSS is going to be, at best, a hobby for a few dedicated tinkerers. And I say that as someone who invested a significant amount of the last 20 years getting good at CSS.
    • petercooper32 minutes ago
      I don't really have a definitive answer, so this is more thinking out loud, but why do the Economist, Spectator, WSJ, NYT, or the like continue to do reasonably well?

      News is everywhere now, and AI can do a reasonable job guiding me on any economic or political topic I might care about. Yet.. named authors with track records or strong personalities/opinions still seem to draw readers and have value, and maybe CSS Tricks is mildly like that in some niches.

    • npnan hour ago
      ???

      CSS tricks was never about only css, it also had js, html, design and other tips, too.

      Pretty useful to catch up with webdev related new features

    • zulbanan hour ago
      I think it's very ominous that their post doesn't even directly mention AI generated CSS.
  • thrownaway561an hour ago
    learning css is going to go the way of learning jquery. at this stage with AI, having a fundamental grasp on css is about all you need. with the stuff that claude and company can produce, do anyone really code css by hand anymore?
    • s__s3 minutes ago
      Comparing an outdated JavaScript library to a fundamental web technology doesn’t make sense to me at all.

      If you work with the web in any serious way as a professional, AI or not, yes you should learn and understand CSS.

  • nashashmian hour ago
    I am pessimistic. I hope I am wrong. In the age of AI, content websites are trying to find a new identity for themselves. CSS-Tricks are great resources for the tinkerer and imagineer. What kind of products and services can be offered to this niche? courses? ads? donation buttons? Nope. Innovation, maybe. Paywalled css tools like color palette, or smartArt type demos. The problem is that these tools require a dedicated staff just for billing, user support, and maintenance. Say 10% of the revenue goes towards the existing CSS tricks team. That is $20 million dollars worth of annual revenue needed. $10 per user. 2 million users. If they are lucky I expect them to get 300k users. That makes it $60 per user.

    There is either going to be a layoff, a price increase, or I don't know.

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