54 pointsby ent1014 hours ago19 comments
  • bcvvvy2 hours ago
    I immediately tried Circuits, because I have a lot of expertise here and realised it was expected: absolutely zero understanding of the product domain. It looks like an EDA package, it smells like an EDA package but an EDA package it ain't.

    And I don't want to hear "it's alpha" and "it'll improve over time". The very foundation it is built on is a near zero understanding of the domain.

    This is exactly the same as all the sudden Lightroom and Photoshop replacements.

    • dvhan hour ago
      I created schematic, pcb. Then exported Gerbers as zip and it passed and looks ok at jlcpcb. So it's usable.

      I added one issue (allow to change default trace width) and we'll see how it goes. If they actually fix it, with maybe 30 another similar fixes it could be usable.

    • etchalon2 hours ago
      Turns out product design is a lot harder than "Make me a product. Don't make any mistakes."
    • ent1012 hours ago
      it'll get better over time. Give it some time!
      • bcvvvy2 hours ago
        Why should I when there's KiCad on the market? Or even pay for Altium?

        Put a usable product on the market from day one or don't bother. There's absolutely no proof you will deliver anything here. This is just slavery to an inferior promise in the name of progress.

        I'm not patting this on the head and waiting and expecting it to grow up into a work dog.

        • ent1012 hours ago
          makes sense. some people like this project and are waiting for it to get better. it's a free market, you can use whatever you like most.
        • bigyabai2 hours ago
          > Put a usable product on the market from day one or don't bother.

          Tall words for someone recommending KiCad.

          • bcvvvy2 hours ago
            KiCad does an ok job. This does not even do job.
            • bigyabai2 hours ago
              KiCad day-one was probably not what you'd call a "usable" EDA suite either.
              • bcvvvy2 hours ago
                But it was an EDA suite, not an EDA suite shaped object.
      • saulpwan hour ago
        I see no evidence that you're committed to it getting better over time. Tell me again in a year or two when something you've made has actually gotten usable. Until then, build your credibility by making something good, not just making a sloppy copy.

        Don't sloppy that copy!

  • tobr2 hours ago
    I want to see good, small, focused tools that are highly polished and (user) tested, and fit into a bigger ecosystem that can be mashed up and adapted on the fly to fit the task you have. Just porting existing mega-apps doesn’t seem appealing at all. They are still going to be as inflexible and overwhelming, and much rougher around the edges.
    • ent1012 hours ago
      I think eventually the smaller focused tools will win the market by a wide margin. But for now, there is huge demand for open-source and free alternatives to mega apps. Especially for the education/non-profit sector.
      • etchalon2 hours ago
        There are already open-source and free alternatives for every mega app.
        • ent1012 hours ago
          true. we're throwing our hat in the ring too and some people like it, some don't. regardless, more options for everybody...
    • jareklupinski2 hours ago
      > good, small, focused tools that are highly polished and (user) tested, and fit into a bigger ecosystem that can be mashed up and adapted on the fly to fit the task you have

      i wish i could use the shell this way; some of my colleagues could pipe things in between /usr/bin utilities all day for things i'd need a script for

  • peesem3 hours ago
    shoving all of these vastly different applications into one monorepo does not bode well for them being seriously designed, maintained, and cared-about pieces of software. such is the nature of LLM development, i suppose.

    not to mention that there are only three contributors and #2 is claude, although that might be because they just committed a bunch of previously-untracked code at once, i don't care to check.

    • ent1012 hours ago
      > shoving all of these ...

      I feel like you're being snarky but, regardless, I'm curious to hear your reasoning for the first paragraph. being a monorepo helps us share code across 50 different apps without falling into a submodule/dependency hell.

      • CompoundEyes2 hours ago
        I might be missing something but inspecting a few of them the testing seems quite thin. I won’t do anything now without layers of controls for agent coding. Just for testing — near 100s for v8 coverage, property, mutation, fuzz, chaos, contract, bdd e2e, api and playwright exploratory mcp. Long term maintenance of all of this is going to need a ci/cd that puts all that through a ringer around the clock.
      • peesem2 hours ago
        there are other ways to share code than a monorepo, namely independently versioned packages. you say dependency hell but if you're in control of everything you're in the best position to avoid that if you put thought into it. with a monorepo you could actually get worse results in some cases. say i change something in a graphics api for sudoku and suddenly the zoom clone doesn't work. yuck. i only buy the monorepo argument for systems of code that actually need to be deployed in sync, like server/client stuff or larger. iirc google has a massive monorepo for nearly all of their production code because basically all of it works together (server/client stuff, auth, etc)

        also a monorepo like this is worse for human interaction, if you care. what if someone only wants to pull and work on sudoku? now they have to get everything else. issues and pull requests are also more annoying to varying degrees depending on use.

      • utrack2 hours ago
        What's shared between the "Property Management" and "Photo Studio"?

        The UI frameworks already exist, there's 0 reason to share more things between them. That is, unless it has a slopped revolutionary(tm) UI framework #1000.

      • watty2 hours ago
        for this project, doesn't look like much effort has gone into sharing assets.
      • etchalon2 hours ago
        Monorepo's don't solve dependency hell. They amplify it.
    • neonnoodlean hour ago
      1,000 great shareware programs on one CD!
  • m_w_18 minutes ago
    I was hoping this link would be to VoidTools’ Everything [0] which - unlike this repo - is a very useful utility.

    I’m all for recreating software, especially to be faster, cleaner, smaller, and more bespoke - but trying to one-shot a whole suite will never work. Building these foundational office-y tools requires an immense amount of testing and attention.

    [0]: https://www.voidtools.com/

  • vishalontheline2 hours ago
    Pressing "Try it" makes an app load up instantly. That should at least give people who create bloatware some pause.
    • ent1012 hours ago
      Thank you for trying them out :)

      additionally, somewhere in the agent prompt i asked it to maximize app functionality without the user having to sign in. for most office/creative/engineering apps this should work very well in the long term (fingers crossed)

      • hyperhello2 hours ago
        I tried Document and it complained about font kerning support and wouldn't let me do anything.
        • ent1012 hours ago
          yeah, I'm aware. working on it.
  • SwellJoean hour ago
    This is the worst kind of slop. The kind where someone doesn't exhibit any concern for quality or user experience. I know that's so, because it's a gazillion unrelated apps that clone existing huge apps, built by a couple of people and Claude.

    The reality of launching a good product with AI is that the coding is very fast, but the QC, the documentation, the refinement and user testing, isn't all that much faster, if you care about it being good.

    This is a mountain of code, full of bugs and weirdness that users will be the first to find, because nobody else is looking at it.

    My process for building with AI is "intense weekend of vibe coding" and then several times that time spent on refinement and testing that comes from actually using the software a lot. A couple of devs can't be responsible for every major application.

    With AI, you can make anything you want, but you can't make everything.

  • kettlez2 hours ago
    Rebuilding the world's software in one repo, all in Javascript, what could go wrong?
  • x3haloed2 hours ago
    I'd love to hear the story behind this. Motivation, methodology, alternatives considered, etc.
  • adverbly2 hours ago
    Reminds me of that recent post saying "we should be more ambitious with software" on the front page.

    This certainly checks that box!

  • phegleran hour ago
    Things went out of hand incredibly quickly after we got REA...

    https://github.com/morluto/rea

  • 3922 hours ago
    All in Javascript? Pass.
  • hmokiguess2 hours ago
    Hello, LibreOffice? Anyone?
  • rvz2 hours ago
    Nobody got fired for buying Microsoft. [0]

    [0] https://www.neowin.net/news/denmark-has-abandoned-plans-to-d...

  • unethical_ban2 hours ago
    I like the idea of replacing entrenched proprietary apps with familiar UIs, using AI.

    I'm not the first to say that AI is enabling a fracturing of these projects, though. There's this, and also "ArtCraft" I think, which seem to be trying the exact same thing. I wonder if there is still a place in the AI era for separate projects to merge efforts and processes to accelerate the development of quality clones.

  • etchalon2 hours ago
    Are people not aware that every single one of these already had open source, self-hosted alternatives? Why do we need to add a pile of slop-code knockoffs? Why does it need to be one giant repo? Does this person have any experience building and releasing software that wasn't built and released for them by a robot?
    • ent101an hour ago
      Since you're attacking me personally,

      > Does this person have any experience building and releasing software that wasn't built and released for them by a robot?

      I built https://github.com/heyputer/puter. What have you done? Because your GitHub is pretty empty: https://github.com/etchalon, and your company's website doesn't redirect to https. Doesn't inspire much confidence when you're not even doing the basic stuff right, does it?

    • peesem2 hours ago
      not just person, AI startup! this'll be the one to save the world, i bet
  • lowbloodsugar2 hours ago
    The arrogance required to think you can vibe code everything. I am all for LLM generated replacements for the rent-seeking garbage that permeates software, but this is not the answer. Tools developed by people who use them are the future. Instead, I guarantee this person has the same mindset as the Adobe management he’s trying to displace: create what looks like a useful tool with minimal effort and rely on scale to beat everyone else.
    • x3haloedan hour ago
      I'm curious why it's so upsetting to you. What does the existence of this repo represent to you that you hate?
      • lowbloodsugar24 minutes ago
        Opportunistic vultures who vibe code products with no mental investment in what customers want, no testing, no thought. This is the antithesis of Hacking; the antithesis of building a product for customers.
  • lisa_lin932 hours ago
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  • blahblaher2 hours ago
    This is fake. No I will not elaborate, I don't feed trolls
    • maxlin2 hours ago
      You are troll, No I will not elaborate, I don't feed fakers