EDIT: I didn't flag the reply below. The expression "epaulette heavy countries" is funny though.
What we never hear about from them is the moral part of socialism. They categorically assume every person consents with such system. What happens when someone doesn't want to participate in it by wanting to keep their hard-earned money to themselves, they conveniently ignore. I don't blame them for inheriting the collectivist idea of democracy and not bothering to critically question it, but thinking that if most people value stability more than freedom (or vice versa), then heuristically everyone does so and hence may be forced upon them needlessly locks people in tribal capitalism vs socialism discourse that ultimately accomplishes nothing.