Subaru is killing off gas cars and will only sell EVs in Europe(electrek.co)
45 pointsby toomuchtodo2 hours ago4 comments
  • hnburnsy5 minutes ago
    Isn't this because of the EU's target of reducing CO2 by 55% by 2030 which is effectively an EV mandate?
  • onlypassingthru44 minutes ago
    "Subaru is killing off gas cars and will only sell rebadged Toyota EVs in Europe."

    Subaru was talking about an electric model over 20 years ago! I saw the concept drawings. Whoever has run Subaru for the last 20 years needs to be given a watch and thanked for their service on their way out the door.

  • toomuchtodo2 hours ago
    German source: https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/verkehr/keine-verbrenner...

    (Subaru marketshare is already fairly small in Europe, but an interesting data point imho as global electrification continues)

    Related:

    Europe EV sales rose 70.3% in September, 32.6% of market share - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50155291 - October 2026 (167 comments, as of this comment)

    EV Sales Are Booming in Europe with Gasoline at $10 a Gallon - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49870928 - September 2026 (150 comments)

    Europe EV Sales BEVs Jump 50% & Reach 26% Market Share - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49147450 - August 2026 (188 comments)

    Tracking:

    https://ember-energy.org/data/ev-sales-tracker/

    https://robbieandrew.github.io/carsales/?lang=en&freq=monthl...

    https://ourworldindata.org/electric-car-sales

  • nothercastle2 hours ago
    Subaru the brand with the worst infotainment in the market is going all electric. That’s going to go well
    • oliyoung37 minutes ago
      > Since 2019, every new Subaru has come standard with both Apple CarPlay® and Android Auto™

      https://www.subaru.com/vehicle-info/article/what-is-apple-ca...

      • idontwantthis33 minutes ago
        Infotainement is more than just CarPlay.

        I don't know if it's gotten any better, but I won't buy another Subaru after my 2020. It constantly beeps at me whenever the EyeSight can't see the lanes in the road, even when it's not steering for me. It's a safety hazard that pretends to be a safety feature.

    • vsgherzi8 minutes ago
      Not sure why this is being downvoted so hard. More than the ui ux experience the damn thing just freezes and needs to be restated regardless of the phone being used. Subaru outsourced their software and it shows.
    • gamegod2 hours ago
      If you're buying a Subaru, you're buying it because you value safety and reliability of the car, because your life/livelihood depend on it. You're not concerned about the infotainment system.
      • solyin44 minutes ago
        No you're not. You're buying a Subaru because how awesome was the WRX STi and how they did in WRC! Naturally I speak for the motivations of all Subaru buyers and you don't. We can't know what reasons people do buy a Subaru, but people buying them because of awesome things professional race car drivers do in modified versions of their car has got to be non-zero.
        • S_Bear39 minutes ago
          As a 25 year Subaru driver, it's a bit of one and a bit of two. I have a safe ride in the winter and do a full Costco run, and I can book it down curvy dirt roads at unsafe speeds to indulge my inner rally car driver.
        • clickety_clack39 minutes ago
          I was actually shocked to find that Subaru in the US was this kind of safe, maybe outdoorsy brand. I had never seen anything but Imprezas inspired by WRC before I got here. Only boy racers drove them where I grew up.
          • solyin6 minutes ago
            It's also a popular car in the lesbian community.
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      • nothercastlean hour ago
        You are buying it for the gas powered awd system. Which is like the only thing they did well. They have zero advantage or brand value in the EV realm
        • drop_star34 minutes ago
          in theory EVs would be ideal for off-roading. Low end torque and the ability to control the motors independently. I think something like the Mercedes portal axles attached to electric motors would be amazing.
      • kikkiaan hour ago
        That's part, I think not to dissimilar from a jeep, people buy them for the "lifestyle". Plenty of people take them off road, but plenty also like the idea that they could go off road.
      • Kirby642 hours ago
        > If you're buying a Subaru, you're buying it because you value safety and reliability of the car

        If I want that, why wouldn’t I buy Toyota/Honda?

        • to11mtm19 minutes ago
          Well, historically Subaru hits a different market segment than Toyota/Honda.

          This curious bit is that it was 'You want something between a Toyota/Honda and a Lexus/Acura, but closer to the capability of a Jeep'. Where it's more curious, is that the modern Subaru hybrids are actually better at off-roading than the new Jeep Cherokee hybrid.

          Why is that? Well at least IMO it's cause Subaru sticks to their guns, their hybrid system sticks to what they have always tried to do versus the Jeep doing, at least AFAIK, the same sort of 'AWD' hybrid setup of most hybrids, where the rear wheels are electric only and you have to wait for the computer to decide to apply Any power.

          Interestingly, The closest hybrid AWD design I'm aware of to what Subaru is doing, is Ford with the AWD HF55 on the Maverick, in that case they are doing it to also help make sure it can meet the needs for 4K towing.

          It's not as efficient, but it is at last consistent from a branding execution strategy. Definitely moreso than Jeep who has watered down everything they sell so much it's... who knows anymore.

        • TreeInBuxton39 minutes ago
          To be fair, the Subaru Solterra is a rebadged Toyota bz4x, so I suppose you basically are buying a Toyota?
      • quickthrowman9 minutes ago
        I stopped buying Subaru and started buying Toyota specifically for the reasons you listed and because Toyota (and Honda) make more reliable cars that hold their value longer. Used car depreciation curves tell the only story I need to read before purchasing a car.