74 pointsby georgecmu3 hours ago8 comments
  • dodger-dog2 hours ago
    According to article, this militia is so powerful you can stay in leader’s house and go through his files while he is asleep, because the leader of such a powerful group would keep a filing cabinet at his house with all sorts of incriminating records.

    Only someone smart enough to climb the ranks over many years could pull this off.

    This is the single most important news event of the century. Certainly a book and movie will soon follow. Hopefully if there is still a representative government after the midterms, we can have public hearings before the Senate broadcast on all the networks as we root out these treasonous thugs.

    • no-name-herean hour ago
      > the leader of such a powerful group would keep a filing cabinet at his house with all sorts of incriminating records

      I’m 95% sure your comment is framed to also allude to the President of the U.S. keeping classified/secret/top secret documents (after leaving office) in stacks of cardboard boxes and spilling out onto the floor in:

      * a Mar-a-Lago resort business center

      * a Mar-a-Lago resort ballroom stage

      * a Mar-a-Lago resort bathroom

      etc., with Mar-a-Lago being the 126-room resort (and Trump's home) where others are constantly coming and going, including even representatives of foreign adversaries and the foreign security teams, etc.?

      • nikolqy17 minutes ago
        Are we just going to forget that the feds went through Melania’s panty drawer during the raid over the documents?
        • defrost9 minutes ago
          Had they not would they have been doing their job properly ?

          Are you saying that we should we all hide our bloody knives in drawers under women's underclothes?

      • 3RTB29743 minutes ago
        Or it's 4 paragraphs in to the article:

        >He’d slept in the home of the man who claims to be the new head of the Oath Keepers, rifling through his files in the middle of the night.

        • no-name-here26 minutes ago
          1. But is the GP comment also designed to allude to the US President doing something very similar? If not, I don't understand why it seems to have a sarcastic tone acting like obviously an important militia leader would never store files like that, when we already have a case of the US President doing something similar (actually worse since there are significant laws against taking/insecurely storing classified/secret/top secret documents).

          2. Same with the GP calling for "public hearings before the Senate" about it - I don't understand why they'd call for it for a militia leader (as a militia leader insecurely storing their files isn't a crime) unless they were actually calling for public hearings before the Senate digging into Trump illegally taking/insecurely storing classified documents?

  • EdwardDiego2 hours ago
    The involvement of Police and military personnel is not unexpected, but still rather horrifying.
  • qrios2 hours ago
    2025
  • roenxi2 hours ago
    This article could do with an serious edit; it seems to be an odd mix of actual information, imagined colour and emotion to the point where it is a little difficult to follow and hard to work out the credibility of any individual assertion. I get the strong impression here that Williams is a bit paranoid and spent a lot of time fearing for his skin in the company of people who thought we was a good mate and would probably just kick him out of the club if they figured out he was conspiring against them. I thought this passage summed the vibe up best:

    > They spotted the dog at the same time. The bug was attached to a charging device. The animal was running around with it like it was a tennis ball. As Kinch went to retrieve it, Williams felt panic grip his chest. Could anyone talk their way out of this? He’d learned enough about Kinch to be terrified of his rage. Looking around, Williams eyed his host’s handgun on the kitchen counter.

    > If he even starts to examine it, I’ll grab the gun, [Williams] thought. Then I’ll shoot him and flee into the woods.

    > Kinch took the bug from the dog’s mouth. Then he handed it right to Williams and started to apologize.

    • nikolqy19 minutes ago
      It’s propublica, what did you expect. The Atlantic and New Yorker do a much better job, and their biases don’t seems to affect their overall factual discussion.
    • madaxe_againan hour ago
      The lede isn’t just buried, it is submerged in a swamp under a pile of human interest rocks.

      The article mentions several relatively minor/local public figures, including a prosecutor, apparently caught on mic saying they’ve influenced policy in favour of the group. Political lobbying is one thing, but an undeclared interest, another entirely.

      As best I can tell this was published, talked about for a few days, and sank under its own mass. Their most read piece of 25, apparently, and it went precisely nowhere.

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    • Ereman hour ago
      It’s a 20y/o news organization that has won multiple Pulitzers
    • youdumbwithaban hour ago
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