82 pointsby mnapoli4 hours ago32 comments
  • ineptech3 hours ago
    Errant thought - I kind of hope that the actual social network for developers of the not so distant future looks more like a bunch of us separately building bespoke applications to serve files to each other.

    > Dave: "Bot, add a folder to my personal data store with the pictures I took this weekend and share it with everyone in my poker group"

    > Sally: "I see that I've gotten an email from Dave with a magic link conveying access to something. Bot, use this link to negotiate a key exchange with whatever weird app Dave cobbled together (ask his bot if you need help) and then log into my VPS and add a tab to my personal webapp to display the content he has shared."

    That might be overly optimistic, but it doesn't feel that far off. It's kind of what Tim Berners-Lee build https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid_project for right?

    • flexagoon2 hours ago
      Isn't that just called hosting a website?.. You can just give an agent access to your server and let them do all that, no?

      There are also places like https://tilde.town/ if you want something more social media–esque

      • ineptechan hour ago
        Think of it this way - why didn't we all just replace Facebook with "host files on our personal sites and give each other access to them" ten years ago? Because we'd have to store passwords, identify each other past spoofed emails, figure out when/how to trust friends of friends, etc. In practice that means everyone adopting the same protocol, which is a chicken-and-egg problem.

        That hasn't changed, but what has changed is that reading docs and writing the glue code is effectively free. The main problem with something like Solid is, if it takes even an hour to figure out how to get it going, I am effectively assigning my friends an hour of homework to be able to network with me. That's no longer true. If you like the Fediverse and I like Solid and Dave uses Nostr and Sally is stuck with some proprietary thing that came with her NAS, we can all build a network without any of us switching to, or even learning much about, each other's platforms.

    • layer8an hour ago
      I like that it’s email-based.
    • voidfunc2 hours ago
      Just need to dust off the finger protocol.
  • ajjenkins4 hours ago
    It would be nice if the website had more information about the platform before you create an account.
    • mnapoli4 hours ago
      Fixed! Check out the website it shows content now, no landing page anymore
      • ajjenkins3 hours ago
        Much better now, thanks!

        I would describe the website as “twitter for developers and uses your GitHub account for auth”. It’s a simple concept, but I think using your GitHub account to sign in is a great idea and a meaningful differentiator. Good luck!

        • TZubiri2 hours ago
          "twitter for developers and uses your GitHub account for auth"

          No good developer would introduce such a security risk for novelty.

    • ersind4 hours ago
      This was done only in two days, there are important pages missing.
      • embedding-shape4 hours ago
        > This was done only in two days

        So not at all ready to be seen? Maybe we should all flag this so it can re-appear once someone spent at least a bit of time on making it proper and ready for public consumption?

      • mystifyingpoi4 hours ago
        Does this excuse the main page missing any information what this thing even is? Come on.
  • methodical2 hours ago
    Social media site for devs getting hug-of-death'd by HN... the irony!
    • RonanSoleste2 hours ago
      If only we had wel developed solutions for that ;)
  • JdeBP2 hours ago
    Thank you, but no. I'll stick with /dev/tty0 . It's federated.
  • probably_wrong4 hours ago
    I have a petty complaint: if you name your social network after a core Unix concept, then why make your users login exclusively through a Microsoft subsidiary?
    • retromagik4 hours ago
      Based on the branding, I think their target demographic assumes the dev in /dev/null is short for "Developers"
      • ASalazarMX4 hours ago
        It's a cute name, but considering how combative developers can be about naming, I think it should have been more clever than cute.

        If 'dev' is developer, 'null' makes me think it's for worthless developers, or for things that developers don't care about.

        • bee_rider2 hours ago
          Well it is a social media site, isn’t that where everybody puts the things they don’t care about?
      • joshuat4 hours ago
        dev = developer

        bin = trash

    • pitched4 hours ago
      GitHub is a social network already. You’re logging into one social network with another social network. And I’m complaining about that fact on a different social network. What has the world come to?
      • ASalazarMX4 hours ago
        DM me and subscribe if you want an explanation.
    • stephenlf4 hours ago
      Is this a real question? If so, here’s a real answer:

      GitHub is the single most widely adopted, developer-specific OIDC identity provider.

      If it’s facetious, then WSL BABYYYYYY

      • mystifyingpoi4 hours ago
        Why does this need OIDC at all? Basic email + password account is like 1-2 prompts away.
        • funshed11 minutes ago
          It's built on laravel, email/pass/2fa/forget is all built in. GitHub auth only was a choice.
        • ASalazarMX4 hours ago
          I guess at some point developers will have to prove they're serious developers by exposing their GitHub profile.

          Edit: it's part of your profile already, better vibe code some random ideas to farm some GitHub dev credibility.

          • ranger_danger3 hours ago
            I don't think a github profile (or any specific activity therein) should be a prerequisite for being considered a 'serious developer'.
            • ASalazarMX3 hours ago
              I am of the same idea. Requiring online, public repositories, specifically in GitHub, doesn't cover all developers. It covers many of them nowadays, so there's that.
            • Terr_2 hours ago
              Yeah, it strikes me as a very... Silicon-Valley-brained view of software development.

              For example, I'm sure there's a scary-talented engineer working on fluid simulation algorithms for a major aerospace manufacturer, and they would be fired if their work-product ever left the corporate VPN. Meanwhile, their personal stuff is in a self-hosted solution.

        • hobofan4 hours ago
          Because effective anti-spam account measures are not 1-2 prompts away.
        • mahboi2 hours ago
          How about ssh public keys
          • funshed12 minutes ago
            It uses your GitHub public keys to authenticate so you can post from the CLI.
        • bigwheels4 hours ago
          Maybe spam concerns, but your point remains valid.
        • saghm4 hours ago
          And having those passwords leaked is probably only another 1-2 prompts away
      • OtomotO4 hours ago
        Guess I am simply not invited to the party then.

        Or I am not a developer after all.

        Identity crisis intensifies

        • pitched4 hours ago
          The dev in /dev/null is device, not developer. So you’re not a device but you can still be a developer.
      • fatty_patty894 hours ago
        >Is this a real question? If so, here’s a real answer:

        >Let's all be willing docile salves

        This is how you sound

        • pants24 hours ago
          Nobody's forcing you to use that website
    • 283042834092343 hours ago
      And for developers. Only a tiny percentage of the devs I know actually know what /dev/null is.
    • iberator43 minutes ago
      Good point.

      What if Microsoft black listed me from GitHub forever? I'm also banned from Facebook for like decade

    • sandeepkd4 hours ago
      How does publicly published PGP based login sounds?
    • ranger_danger4 hours ago
      FWIW DOS and Windows both have a null concept too:

        C:\> TYPE file.txt >NUL
        C:\>
    • Daviey4 hours ago
      [flagged]
  • stephenlf4 hours ago
    I signed up for TextLog a few weeks ago. I love the text-only social network, but their European infra meant too much latency for my US-based browsing. Maybe this will scratch that itch!
  • ktosobcy2 hours ago
    Seems to be down...

    What does it use? masto or hand-crafted stuff?

    • funshed9 minutes ago
      Laravel Backend, TypeScript Frontend.
    • measurablefunc2 hours ago
      I don't think you're getting the joke, the site is literally called /dev/null.
  • RonanSoleste2 hours ago
    Y.a.t.c (yet another twitter clone). Except for theming it brings nothing new to the social media space. I also dont think sending my tweets to a null device will do much for development. Ill put my bets on Bsky or Mastodon here.
  • sp4cec0wb0y4 hours ago
    Your posts have to be approved? Odd way to run a social network imo.
    • funshed8 minutes ago
      Uses AI, Jev or similar.
    • rafram3 hours ago
      Kind of makes sense for a small operation. Better that than miss something bad for eight hours because the admin (presumably singular) is sleeping.
  • flanz_10an hour ago
    > Everyone here signed in with GitHub.

    ugh.

  • hk13374 hours ago
    > Failed to open page

    I'm guessing that wasn't expected result.

  • jchonphoenixan hour ago
    Wasn't this originally HN?
    • PaulKeeblean hour ago
      As HN has gotten bigger its pulled in other communities and now its not very developer/hacker oriented anymore. Lobsters was the first push to have the deep software talk back and there will be more as HN caters to a different crowd nowadays.
  • deadbabe4 hours ago
    /tmp/social would have been better I think. dev = device, doesn’t make sense.
    • hk13374 hours ago
      I like it. I might steal that.
  • muslimpeacepriz4 hours ago
    Shouldn't that domain be dev-null.social instead of 'shell'? Dorks.
  • ersind4 hours ago
    Looks good!
    • JaceComix4 hours ago
      Which part looks good? The <50 words or the YouTube video?

      I'm not saying this isn't a good idea or that people don't want something like this but... There's nothing here?

      • sidrag224 hours ago
        yep im confused, i see a handful of words that signals almost nothing other than there is potentially something behind the login gate. then an 8 hour video... im not just gonna jump into some random 8 hour video without any context, just as im not about to signup for something with no context for what it really is.
  • antiloper4 hours ago
    > Computah... build me a social network in PHP. Import the user's profile from GitHub, they shouldn't have to fill anything in. No likes, reposts or algorithms. Add a catchy slogan at the home page. Make no mistakes!
  • thisisauseridan hour ago
    symlinked in.
  • simonhamp4 hours ago
    it's fully open source (https://github.com/nunomaduro/dev-null.sh/pulls) and received over 200 PRs in less than 48 hours
    • esaym4 hours ago
      I am always so floored when I see a new thing written all in PHP. I always got crap for using Perl most of my life.
  • TheChelsUK4 hours ago
    Very good idea
  • caaqil4 hours ago
    This is interesting: a. Developers on average are probably low on E trait in the Big Five b. Most users in the online developer communities (at least the ones who will be doing the "social" part, per the standard 1% rule of social platforms) loathe LinkedIn-style stuff, being asked to log in or provide PII. c. Most "social" services devs regularly use are for technical/utility stuff (GH, SO, subreddits) more than the social aspect.

    If a, b and c are true, then this site is reinventing HN/proggit with forced GitHub login on top. NGMI.

  • cyanydeez4 hours ago
    conceptually, just sounds like a place you go when you don't want anyone to hear, see or think about you.
    • brabel4 hours ago
      A dream developer experience.
  • 4 hours ago
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  • xyst2 hours ago
    Using GH as the only way to associate identity is a bit evil
  • lenerdenator4 hours ago
    Devs need to be around actual humans in-person more, not less.
    • ASalazarMX3 hours ago
      I have the right amount of humans in my life, I don't want more. Online is great for me, for this use case.
  • nailer4 hours ago
    I can't see any of the content unless I sign in.

    I don't know if I want to sign in, because I can't see any of the content.

    • satiric4 hours ago
      I'm thinking of it a different way. In order to join a social media network these days, I need to have some assurance that it's going to be worth my time. They didn't provide any, so screw 'em.
    • simonhamp4 hours ago
      it was supposed to be public. maybe it got reverted. the team were moving super fast
      • mnapoli4 hours ago
        yeah that's fixed
    • mnapoli4 hours ago
      That's fixed
  • rvz4 hours ago
    > No likes. No reposts. No algorithm. Everything else goes to /dev/null.

    *Closes tab

    • aftbit4 hours ago
      Just skip the whole thing and send your thoughts straight to /dev/null
    • stephenlf4 hours ago
      Weird, especially because it DOES have likes.
      • mnapoli4 hours ago
        Yep our bad, we fixed this, no landing page anymore
      • wccrawford4 hours ago
        No, it has stars. /s

        sigh Yeah, that's really a bad look for them to claim no likes and then have something that is functionally identical.

  • mmwon2 hours ago
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  • ls-a2 hours ago
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  • andrewstuart4 hours ago
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  • nailer4 hours ago
    > follow people who write code, and commit plain text to a shared log.

    Isn't that Twitter?

    • verdverm4 hours ago
      Twitter is gone, isn't it? X under Elon is not a place I will ever hang out

      Discord is where more dev communities are moving to

      • drnick1an hour ago
        > Discord is where more dev communities are moving to

        Discord now requires age verification, so it is user-hostile and nobody should use it.

        • verdverman hour ago
          I have not been asked for any age verification yet, US based
      • nailer2 hours ago
        No, everyone is still there talking about programming. Your choice, but you’re missing out.
        • verdverman hour ago
          that's the thing, I do not think I'm missing out, HN is more than enough

          I think the people who remain (on any big social) are missing out on IRL alternatives, if you get into it, you will find it is a much more rewarding way to spend your time.

  • t1234s4 hours ago
    Why do all these guys have "Soy Face" when you take their pictures?