I didn’t vote for a crime free society and I don’t want a surveillance society. Some random ass CEO does not have the right or authority to tell the rest of us how to run our society: that’s sidestepping Democracy and not ok.

Societies have functioned for millennia without Flock, and there is nothing especially dangerous that it solves.

In fact violent crime in the United States has dropped by a record 9.3% just in 2025 (the largest single year decline in U.S. history). It’s not like there is some pressing crisis.

As far as I am concerned, this guy can get bent.

cool. I don't want a crime-free society. It's not that I want crime, it's that at a certain point I'd rather allocate government attention/money/time at issues other than crime because the benefit to that other thing is greater than getting crime asymptotically closer to 0.

“ Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.”

- Benjamin Franklin

Most common crime is wage theft, don't see how they are going to do anything about that.

Wait, we’ve already given away our privacy. Where’s our crime free society?

Well there are many issues and that is ownership and who gets to see the data and who gets to delete the data. If it is ever going to work, the ownership has to be public and not private. The videos should be impossible to delete.. The camera spread should be the same everywhere and would collect data non-selectively and only in public spaces. The data could only become visible to viewers only if certain criteria's are met and not continuous.

Infringing on 4th amendment rights sounds like a crime to me.

or move to japan, which does thing a different way

I remember being in a fast food restaurant. A lady left her purse on her table and went to the bathroom. 8 year old kids walk to school in the city (with backpacks almost as big as they are).

or another way of thinking of it: what will be done for you will be done to you

Or just keep the people in jail who are committing most of the crime. When someone has been arrested a dozen times, we don’t need cameras tracking them to keep people safe, we need that person removed from polite society.

Flock is a poor solution to a failure of the judicial system.

So much stupidity from people who make every choice binary.

Says who hides his house on google map.

Somehow "Minority Raport" was about crime... And stupidity build into oversight system.

And under eg. communism where oversight is balooned to society self-harm you still have crime. And "bribery" is alias for communism and other dictatorships.

So, it is just better to give up on Flock spy[hard]ware.

This is such a weird framing.

The problem with Flock and similar solutions is not about what they collect, but more about who and how uses it. The same applies to pretty much all government surveillance - it is acceptable it is collected, but absolutely unacceptable that it often accessed and used in ways obscure to person of interest.

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I'll take freedom and the cons that come with it. I doubt very much that crime-free is even possible, especially the oligarchy crimes

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he is a real thought leader.. /s

He’s right, the countries that have lowest crime rates have flock cameras everywhere and zero privacy, this is the way /s