74 pointsby rociiu3 hours ago9 comments
  • flufluflufluffy2 hours ago
    This might sound kinda crazy, but I define “self-hosted” as something that I host myself.
    • brainlessan hour ago
      To me, "self-hosted" means, either I use a rented hardware or I use a purchased hardware.

      If the software can be switched to a rented or purchased hardware (I do not want Cloudflare's offering) then it is "self-host-able" IMO.

      I think there are open source Cloudflare alternative hosting software.

    • tropicalhunter28 minutes ago
      I agree.

      I would describe it as externally hosted yet managed specifically because someone else is most likely, whether they admit to it or not, recording some sort of logs on my service and data and that is a choice that I do not own or, in some cases, have access to.

    • foobarbecue23 minutes ago
      Yourself? In your brain?
    • Narretz2 hours ago
      Where do you draw the line? Some SaaS acceptable? VPS? Bare metal? Or your own server in your own home?
      • loveparadean hour ago
        I think it's a pretty clear line. Self hosted means you can run it locally in your home, using a saas platform or vps is just a convenience, not a requirement.
        • pwython4 minutes ago
          What about FOSS SaaS alternatives that are meant for team collab? Like Plane (Jira replacement). Does that have to be ran locally at home for it to be considered "self hosted"?
      • vrganjan hour ago
        IMO physical hardware in your own material possession, so only the last of your examples.
    • nurettinan hour ago
      No, crazy would be owning the router and cables/satellites as well as producing your own power and having a manufacturing plant for hardware capable of running the software.
      • malfist23 minutes ago
        To make an apple pie from scratch, one must first create the universe?
      • onemoresoop40 minutes ago
        I think op is thinking about local.
      • catchnear432132 minutes ago
        Is this an Elon reference?
  • hungan hour ago
    Careful with Cloudflare's "free" AI tier if you use paid workers. I was never able to get an answer on why I was billed for their confusing neuron usage for stuff that should have been covered under their usage limits. Their customer support just ignored my ticket. Apparently it's a known issue that they don't give a shit based on discussions in their support Discord.
    • OsrsNeedsf2Pan hour ago
      I got my bill reversed after having an AI agent pester them long enough
  • 1dom2 hours ago
    I'm not sure I understand the use-case or target audience for this. Selfhosted on cloudflare is a great oxymoron though.
  • StrLght2 hours ago
    There's nothing self-hosted about relying on Cloudflare for _literally_ everything.
    • TheSkyHasEyesan hour ago
      Sure, but this is a free thing for some to play around with. Nothing literal, reliant or histrionic about it. :)
      • embedding-shape30 minutes ago
        Call it "A free personal AI agent" if "free" is what you care about, self-hosted doesn't imply free nor vice-versa.
  • deanc2 hours ago
    This is the first I’m hearing about Cloudflare’s worker AI product. I see they provide 10,000 neurons a day on the free tier. What on earth is that?
  • quietFalconan hour ago
    Did a side project on Workers and the self host test for me was whether I could run it off Cloudflare at all. Durable Objects and KV bindings meant no, so it was really just deploy it yourself.
  • AgentSearchHQ15 minutes ago
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  • rociiuan hour ago
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  • rociiu3 hours ago
    Hi HN! I built Talorys, an open-source personal AI agent that runs entirely in your own Cloudflare account.

    The idea came from wanting a personal AI assistant that I could own and control, without paying a monthly subscription or relying on someone else's hosted service.

    Talorys uses Cloudflare Workers, Workers AI, Durable Objects, and Pages to provide:

    AI chat with persistent memory and conversation history Task, note, and project management Scheduled reminders and recurring automations A responsive web interface accessible from any device Password-protected access with no signup or external accounts One-command deployment: npx create-talorys@latest Everything runs in your Cloudflare account. Your data stays under your control, and there's no telemetry or third-party backend operated by me.

    It's designed to work within Cloudflare's free-tier limits for personal use. You don't need to manage a VPS, database server, or Docker containers.

    The biggest challenge was making deployment simple enough that someone could set up their own AI assistant without manually configuring Cloudflare services.

    The project is still early, and I'd love feedback from the HN community, especially on the architecture, security, and what would make a self-hosted personal AI agent genuinely useful.

    GitHub: https://github.com/rociiu/talorys

    It's MIT licensed. Contributions and suggestions are welcome!

    • onionisafruit2 hours ago
      This is a neat idea, but I wouldn’t say you aren’t relying on someone else's hosted service. Cloudflare isn’t a public utility quite yet.
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    • muvlon2 hours ago
      So instead of relying on someone's hosted service, this is relying on someone's 4 hosted services?
    • rvz2 hours ago
      > without paying a monthly subscription or relying on someone else's hosted service.

      But you are hosting it on Cloudflare? There is always a cost when running on someone else's platform that advertises itself as 'free-tier' and it can change at any moment.

    • felixgallo2 hours ago
      That’s great! Where do I download cloudflare?
      • TheSkyHasEyesan hour ago
        > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine.

        https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

        • hypfer23 minutes ago
          I'm torn in situations like these, because OP is clearly furthering societal trends that are objectively harmful by watering down terminology like this.

          It is snark, but it is immune-response snark and not petty snark.

          One shouldn't crush them for it, as it might be driven by naivety, but soft politeness alone doesn't steer us away from harmful ideas.

          Social friction caused by feeling stupid for saying something is an important tool if wielded with responsibility and not just swung for ego.

      • plusfour2 hours ago
        from the internet
    • pluc31 minutes ago
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