353 pointsby splintersio7 hours ago45 comments
  • alexpotato2 hours ago
    At a past firm I managed a team of SREs.

    This was very much a "fire drill all the time" kind of place (vs "slow and steady"). The team came to me and said:

    "Alex, we keep getting bombarded by meeting requests and have no focus time."

    My solution was to create a weekly "team meeting" from 8am to 11am every Friday and invite all of them to it.

    They loved it!

    I mentioned to them that making a meeting like this was something they could have done themselves but they responded:

    "It carries more weight coming from you. Plus, if someone tries to schedule over it, they are more likely to think twice and/or I can say 'Hey, you have to talk to Alex.' "

    • mikemarshan hour ago
      This is brilliant, excellent example of the ideal of "management as shielding devs from higher-level corporate shenanigans" in action.
      • antoineMoPa23 minutes ago
        I tried to embody this ideal when I managed a team, but realized shielding too much meant less connection of members with the wider org and too much dependency on me for context and such. Overall, this meant we were a lower value team for the org.
        • ambicapter17 minutes ago
          > too much dependency on me for context and such

          If you're management, that's literally your job. Synthesize and communicate the important context bits.

    • mlhpdxan hour ago
      I have done the same. FWIW, a 2-3 hour block seems to be the sweet spot, as far as keeping it off the radar goes. Ironically, having multiple a week doesn’t seem to raise an eyebrow.
    • notesinthefieldan hour ago
      Our product security and engineering teams do the same thing to defend against the project managers - an 8am-2pm product sync every monday and friday. Its worked for years now.
  • frangonf5 hours ago
    This has real demand, I ended up in the Gitlab secondary youtube channel one day, ordering by most views, and I found a video [0] of a seemingly normal uninteresting meeting with millions of views. Turns out people were using this as an excuse for looking like they were busy. They disabled comments now but I saved some of them because I thought it was hilarious:

    I play this when I need my family to leave me alone - so helpful 4.5K I play this when I pretend to be busy. This meeting is literally about anything you want it to be about lol 1.5K I love that we all arrived at this video for the same reason 2.6K Every now and then I'll pause it at a good point in between them talking to make my own voice heard contributing to the "meeting" lol. Gets the full effect in! And the beautiful thing is their conversation just flows with it like they heard me lol. 562

    [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBVtvOpU80Q

    • broken-kebab4 hours ago
      For people without adblocker the trick will be ruined at some point by something like loud enthusiastic ClickUp ad.
      • twoodfin4 hours ago
        I was one of those people skeptical that ad-free YouTube was worth the high price, but now firmly a convert.

        Get it! The best deal in streaming content. Unlocks such a better experience you’ll find a dozen whole new areas of valuable & enjoyable content to explore.

        • tyromaniac4 hours ago
          Why not just block ads?
          • phoghed2 hours ago
            1. YouTube is my primary entertainment so I don’t mind paying for it in lieu of Netflix or Hulu or whatever

            2. I like that it directly benefits the creators of the videos I watch

            3. It gets everyone in my family ad free viewing for 0 effort across all devices (I primarily watch it from Apple TV app)

            4. Gives you higher quality bitrate option sometimes

            5. It gives me the moral and logical high ground when arguing with nerds about YouTube online

            6. Can download video on most (all?) devices, comes in handy sometimes, but I don’t use it frequently

            7. In the past there have been preview features / experiments that were locked behind it, I think PIP was one of them, may be wrong on that. Nice to check them out or get them first

            • done_lurking11 minutes ago
              How does it give you a moral or logical high ground?
          • xcrjm3 minutes ago
            i mostly watch YT via the apple tv app where you can't
          • stackskipton3 hours ago
            At some point, paying for something and knowing it will work is worth it. In particular, ad blocking YouTube on mobile is frustrating.
            • pimlottc3 hours ago
              Not getting sucked into YouTube on mobile is a feature, not a bug
            • prmoustache3 hours ago
              Had they done that from day 1 you woulf have a point but it sounds like extorsion to me given youtube got rid of most of its competition and established its casi monopolistic position being adfree.
              • nlarew2 hours ago
                That is not what extortion means
            • bluGill3 hours ago
              If you can. A lot of subscription TV channels have ads even though you have to pay to get them. Does paying for youtube block all ads, and if so will it continue to, or will they change as so many others have and just make your payment remove some ads? I'm not even counting sponsored content in a lot of videos as ads, but they are annoying too.
              • ericbarrett3 hours ago
                If you are a YouTube Premium subscriber you actually do get a button that skips in-video sponsor ads.
            • busssard3 hours ago
              NewPipe is the way to do that on android...
              • AdmiralAsshat2 hours ago
                Smarttube on Android TV's works exceptionally well, too. I've seen people recommend Tizentube over it because it's nearly indistinguishable from the standard YouTube app, but with adblocking--but I actually prefer the more minimalist UI of Smarttube.
                • busssard2 hours ago
                  is there something for IOS?
              • JCattheATM2 hours ago
                Yup. Astounding how many tech people just fork over money to an evil company instead though.
            • baud1472582 hours ago
              I've been using YT on my FF mobile browser with an ad block and it's been working great.
            • globular-toast3 hours ago
              They could raise the price or start having ads even if you pay. You're a renter. You have no rights.
          • stronglikedanan hour ago
            Because there's so much more value to YT premium (including YT music) that goes beyond merely blocking ads. It's really a no-brainer if you watch YT often.
            • lolpython32 minutes ago
              There is YouTube Premium Lite now which gets you ad-free long form videos. It’s decoupled from YouTube Music
          • RiverCrochet3 hours ago
            I don't block ads because stealing ad revenue from companies is unethical. These companies have workers who have families that they need to feed. They provide a service for free, so it's the least I can do. I watch every ad in full.

            My cousin, however, stopped blocking ads on YouTube when the YouTube warnings showed up. She is scared that at some point Google would ban Gmail accounts for doing it, and she's had hers for 10 years and really relies on it. She also says YouTube videos are really easy to download so anything she really wants from YouTube she tends to have a local copy of.

            • bee_rider2 hours ago
              It isn’t unethical to block ads; the norm on the internet has always been that senders send any not-actively-malicious bits we want and the recipient renders them however they want (including not).

              That said I’m also worried about getting banned for blocking too many YouTube ads (Google doesn’t have any obligation to send me emails after all) so I… just don’t go there.

            • tyromaniac2 hours ago
              You're right, I didn't think about the thousands left destitute by them using UBlock Origin to play a fake meeting video
            • ArvidSu2 hours ago
              Corporate psy-op
            • maxbond2 hours ago
              The mafia is also made of hard working people with families to feed. Sometimes industries deserve to die. Even if the people working in them don't deserve to lose their jobs. That's life in a free market.
              • RiverCrochet2 hours ago
                There's nothing more "free market" than ads. Ads literally cost you no money (free), and you don't even have to buy the product they're advertising (freedom from market if desired). If I know I'm not going to buy the product in question, I use the time to meditate, or take a moment to enjoy a cool, crisp sip of Kool-Aid. It's delicious when prepared according to the instructions. Oh Yeah!
                • maxbondan hour ago
                  There's nothing more free market than an ad blocker. Alice agreed to provide a service to Bob for and bundled in ads, Bob accepted the service and declined to run that JavaScript or render those images when Alice passed them along. If I drive past a billboard or accept a flyer on the street, no one would suggest I'm obligated to look at it.
                • jonathanstrangean hour ago
                  IMHO it's more ethical to block ads than not to block them because if you don't block them you're supporting unethical business models such as massive privacy invasions by collecting and selling user data, ad-based malware delivery, and scams.
          • sixothree2 hours ago
            Because with google it's an unwinnable arms race.
          • billypilgrim2 hours ago
            Or, you know, you could just pay for a service that you enjoy. I watch a lot more YouTube and see a bigger need to keep it alive than Netflix, HBO and co for which I am paying good money already, why should YouTube be exempt from that? Also if Netflix goes away tomorrow, you’ll find their content on torrents easily, but if YouTube goes away, we will lose decades of videos that no one has backups of. Expecting them to offer this service for free and without ads is crazy.
            • tyromaniacan hour ago
              The percent of people who know how to install an adblocker out of the global YouTube audience is so minuscule.
        • m4tthumphreyan hour ago
          100% agree. I likely would have stuck with adblockers but watching on TV(s) is worth the monthly fee alone. Also you can "watch" (ie listen) in the background on the mobile app too.

          I watch YouTube alot btw. :D

        • Barbing2 hours ago
          One of the best products ever created, and they deserve the dough for serving me all the gigabytes. Fast, reliable, and one product not headed for KilledByGoogle. (Did I jinx it? “We’re transitioning to a vertical-video only platform to meet our billion users where they are…”)
        • Taurenking4 hours ago
          [dead]
      • splintersio2 hours ago
        I’ll disable ads! Apologies :)
    • prmoustache3 hours ago
      Are they monetizing it? If not they are missing out!
    • ruszki4 hours ago
      Why don't you just decline calls with text messages, or just ignore them, or simply mute your phone?
      • flurdy2 hours ago
        You try ignoring when the family helpdesk is called. You never hear the end of it.
        • ruszki4 minutes ago
          You have way bigger problems, if a text message about the same thing is not enough. They think that you lie to them... and you do.
      • bonoboTP4 hours ago
        People take offense.
        • ruszki23 minutes ago
          I think a good rule of thumb is to avoid people who have this level of lack of empathy. I can be on the toilet, running, on a roller coaster, or at a myriad of different places where I don't or even can't have my phone with me. If they think, that I avoid them because of them, then that's on them, and I cannot care less. I avoid such Mexican soap opera generator people like plague.
        • ubermonkey4 hours ago
          So?
        • seb12043 hours ago
          You would not know as you declined?
        • cheonic40403 hours ago
          > People take offense.

          Sounds like something people low on the corporate ladder say

          • bonoboTP2 hours ago
            Yes. These tools are for them. If you're high on the ladder you can play Solitaire openly.
  • filcuk3 hours ago
    The scripts are hilarious, yet not inaccurate. I can't stop chuckling. 'Are you happy with that?' 'Happy is a strong word' 'OK' moves on to the next topic
  • tacostakohashi4 hours ago
    Reminds me of the "boss mode" / "boss key" in old games, like MS-DOS days, which would switch the screen to some spreadsheet mockup or suchlike, updated for the current century.
    • flurdy2 hours ago
      https://hackertyper.com/ and others. Full screen code stream
    • karim792 hours ago
      I think Sierra games like Leisure Suit Larry had that (F11) if I recall correctly. Priceless.
      • rzzztan hour ago
        Then you have to exit the game.
    • jnovek3 hours ago
      This was tickling something in my brain and this was it! Thank you.
  • ninkendo4 hours ago
    Audio seems broken now, maybe hugged to death. Console:

      HTTP load failed with status 404. Load of media resource https://iminafleeting.com/media/people/standup-a.mp4 failed
    • jmuguy3 hours ago
      There's a few that don't work, I was able to get the some of the "scoping" meetings to play the audio.
  • voidUpdate4 hours ago
    Do people in offices typically just blast meetings out of their computer speakers? Everyone I work with uses headphones so we're not disturbing other people in the office...
    • stronglikedanan hour ago
      Yes, because that's exactly what offices are for. I wouldn't do it if I had to sit out in the bullpen with the commoners though.
    • p_l4 hours ago
      Unless you have good ANC headphones, or find something like pink noise that fits you, you're still dealing with all the talking to microphone of your colleagues.
      • Tajnymag4 hours ago
        It's less noisy when you hear 5 people talk in 5 meetings than when you hear 50 people talk in those 5 remote meetings.
      • sixothree2 hours ago
        It's hard to describe how difficult it is to hear someone talking and then a second later hear then in your headphones. It really breaks my concentration. And it's a solvable technology problem - just use the local network for people in the same subnet. But every meeting provider wants _everything_ routed through their servers. There's no escaping they prying eyes.
        • rzzztan hour ago
          Teams has "room audio" and "join without audio" options, if you are talking into a magic box placed on the center of the table the first one helps.
        • wccrawfordan hour ago
          You know what's worse? Talking, and then hearing yourself half a second later.

          I worked at a callcenter that had a problem that sometimes that would happen. The pet theory was that meant they were recording the call to audit it.

          You end up stuttering because you think the caller is talking and you want to listen to them, but it's just your own voice back.

          You do eventually learn to deal with it, but it was always terrible.

      • voidUpdate4 hours ago
        I have reasonably good headphones and nice music
    • jurgenburgenan hour ago
      Going to the office to have a remote meeting is pretty awful.
  • roryirvine6 hours ago
    Truly uncanny!

    Only the British audio works for me, though - if I try American or International, the relevant meetings are silent with a "Join Audio" button which doesn't appear to do anything. (Firefox on MacOS, if that's useful)

    • moritzwarhier3 hours ago
      Same, console says something about missing or "unsuitable" audio resources.

      Sad, I wanted the international broken Zoom call

    • flurdy2 hours ago
      Yeah we need a dial to mix accents and dialects, and level of English fluency. I could want 50% English, maybe some Northern English, Welsh or Scottish, and mix in Indian accents, various American, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Scandinavian, the odd token Aussie. Etc.

      That I could enable more South African, or Middle East accents in some meetings would be true to real life as well.

      Not Finnish. The silence would not work :)

    • Barbingan hour ago
      Thanks, British scoping meeting worked on iOS. Probably would pass muster with family. Even a little laugh in there I heard after a joke.
    • stronglikedanan hour ago
      Same in Chrome and Firefox for me
    • fliglr4 hours ago
      Same here - Brave browser. Only British works
    • wccrawfordan hour ago
      I wondered why it didn't work. Chrome here, same experience. British is fine.
  • tiborsaas25 minutes ago
    This is quite relaxing as background noise I can safely ignore and work on my project in piece. Working solo all day at home can eat into my sanity :)

    It's basically big corp ASMR.

  • ryandrakean hour ago
    Not sure I understand the site. Each option just shows a grid of names (like a Zoom call) but there's no audio or video. The "How It Works" section implies there's audio at least, but not working on Desktop Firefox / Linux.
    • awban hour ago
      No audio on Safari mobile either
    • indrora34 minutes ago
      try the British voices.
  • TrackerFF3 hours ago
    We need a fake teams / zoom UI with faces talking. You know, for those working in open plan.
  • arjonagelhout4 hours ago
    Brilliant, this website is blocked at my work: "This content is blocked by your organization".
    • esikich3 hours ago
      It's because it's a new domain. Very common in corporate IT.
      • arjonagelhout3 hours ago
        I didn't know that was a thing, but that makes sense. Thanks!
  • edmnan hour ago
    I've just spent 20 minutes listening to a conversation about John Carol. Did you know...
  • whilenot-dev4 hours ago
    What are all the names for the category of such software... "Self-defense Software", "Busy Simulation Software", "Faux Work Software", "Fake Meeting Software"[0], "Virtual Meeting Simulator"[1], "Prank Screens"[2], ...? Are there many others?

    [0]: https://fakemeeting.app/

    [1]: https://z.tools/t/fake-meeting

    [2]: https://www.whitescreen.online/

    • TeMPOraL4 hours ago
      Computer-Aided Boundaries? Social Assistive Software?
    • whh4 hours ago
      I'd say a quintessentially British, tactical-yet-polite social interaction deterrent
  • ghusto3 hours ago
    If you can't tell people you want to concentrate on your work, there's either something very wrong with where you work, or you.
  • jvanderbot3 hours ago
    Where's the HR-faced "Can everyone turn on their cameras please?" one with 200 people in the call.
  • karim793 hours ago
    Fantastic product! Needs people talking over each other for greater authenticity, I reckon.
  • 3 hours ago
    undefined
  • Loughla2 hours ago
    This is not making me feel good about the real meetings I'm regularly in.
  • DharmaPolice4 hours ago
    Trying to access this site on my corporate Windows laptop and it was blocked "by your IT admin" (in Windows itself, not the browser/proxy). So it's already on some kind of list.
    • whh4 hours ago
      New domain registrations typically aren't on a list yet, which, in itself gets blocked.
  • tome3 hours ago
    Maybe a silly question, but without video isn't this obviously fake? Or is it normal for all participants on a call to be audio only?
    • mcbuilder3 hours ago
      Pretty normal. Camera's usually stay off unless it's a 1-1, presentation, or maybe a VP level call.
    • p_l3 hours ago
      It's normal in many places for the only video to be shared screen
    • dirkc3 hours ago
      If you find use for this tool, chances are good that you're in an place where all the participants would be audio only
    • seb12043 hours ago
      Depends on the company, the team, the agenda etc
    • astura2 hours ago
      Totally normal. The only time I ever used my camera is conducting interviews.
  • vermooten4 hours ago
    I retired a few months ago. These calls have taken me back to the horror of working in tech. It must be what PTSD is like.
  • splintersio2 hours ago
    I’ve disabled adsense so you guys can enjoy it with UX in mind - tho I have allowed for adverts to sneak into the meetings cough
  • fyltr2 hours ago
    Wait a second is that ad thing ironical? Not a big fan of covert advertising.
  • mock-possum24 minutes ago
    The ‘mixed’ accent option appears to be just British after all
  • jonwinstanley4 hours ago
    This is fun. The audio isn’t particularly believable. Not that it matters for this project.

    I’ve used a few tts providers and although a technical marvel they are all still easily identifiable as ai. Humans are very good at spotting fakes.

    This project might work better with mostly canned audio clips of real humans.

    • xbar2 hours ago
      I disagree. I think many of the audio elements are highly believable for lay people.
  • pentakkusuan hour ago
    Genius. The people need an MS Teams UI option :O
  • pirateirl31 minutes ago
    Usefull!
  • mystifyingpoi3 hours ago
    Reminds me of the fake Windows Update page.
    • yabones3 hours ago
      Takes me back. I remember there was a version of the fake Windows 8 update sequence that had it infinitely loop between "Working on updates..." and the frowny-face :( BSOD
  • soltanov4 hours ago
    Simple solution for focus time. If it stops people from setting up an actual meeting for something that fits in an email, it is already doing critical infrastructure work.
  • spuz4 hours ago
    I am missing something about how this could hypothetically be useful. If I played this in the background it would be far too distracting to get any actual work done.
  • aronhegedus3 hours ago
    Minor but when I took myself off mute, my box didn't reflect that. Not sure if bug or a feature.
    • splintersioan hour ago
      takes notes thank you for the UAT
  • wkumfer4 hours ago
    Please add other language versions! Should be easy to do, and would help us from non-English speaking countries.
    • splintersioan hour ago
      I have that but I think translations and dialect will make it sound less convincing … I can always add it as a beta
  • niek_pas3 hours ago
    I'm not getting any audio, bunch of 404s on loop.m4a... anyone else?

    EDIT: seems like British audio does work

  • ButlerianJihad4 hours ago
  • 7 hours ago
    undefined
  • alienbaby2 hours ago
    is this what other peoples meetings are like? huh.
  • 7174n67 hours ago
    Awesome, if I worked in the UK.
    • splintersioan hour ago
      There’s American accents ! Come on, day one it’s fun, if it gets legs I’ll add as much preferences as I can muster up
  • martythemaniak3 hours ago
    Nice, it's got real Interdimensional Cable vibes.
  • lsofzzan hour ago
    what a fucking stupid meetings with stupid accents and stupid people talking stupid corporate shit making it sound like they are engineering a rocket. ffs, you are the plumbers writing the cruds.

    smart meetings have `pauses`, `thoughts` and `i don't knows`. this is so fucking stupid that i find it lame enough not to use it.

  • tamimio2 hours ago
    This is hilarious, but I think people should be addressing the real issue instead of this, maybe that work environment isn’t for you and it’s time to look somewhere if you need to pretend. Just say you’re busy or fill your calendar with whatever you are working on without a meeting, in fact, a lot of meetings is a sign of a wasted time so if I see someone (especially technical) is doing a lot of meeting I know they are wasting time or slacking.
  • geekgod38239 minutes ago
    bro, that's cool. My friends disturb me a lot while working. This would definitely help
  • dizhn3 hours ago
    I'm gonna ironically make a Claude theme and use that if I ever hand write a site again. :)
  • sebastianconcpt2 hours ago
    This is the new BS generator, but more useful
  • mchav3 hours ago
    Can we just be honest?
  • kirugan5 hours ago
    haha, now I can always use this website if I don't want to be interrupted lol