57 pointsby bcaulfield6 hours ago10 comments
  • NDlurker4 hours ago
    Religious extremism is a mental illness and has no place in government.

    >Saudi Arabia is among the world's most prolific executioners. According to Amnesty, at least 175 people had been executed in the kingdom this year as of 5 October, most of them foreign nationals, including at least 94 people from more than 20 countries. It has no written penal code, leaving many offences and punishments to judges' interpretation of Sharia, and broad provisions in its counter-terrorism and cybercrime laws have been used to impose long sentences for social media posts.

    This should be widely publicized. No foreigner is safe.

    • YZF3 hours ago
      Iran has executed at least 2,159 people in 2025. Apparently over 500 people this year ( https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260827-iran-executes... ).

      Saudi Arabia executed 356 people last year. Apparently a record.

      Iraq, China, Egypt, Somalia... The list goes on. And unfortunately the USA is also on that wall of shame (47 in 2025).

      The world is not in a great shape.

      EDIT: In many Muslim countries blasphemy and apostasy are punishable by death. Not all of them enforce it though but it's still in the books.

    • Incipient3 hours ago
      A few things I'd challenge here:

      - the US believes religion doesn't belong in government, a lot of the rest of the world does.

      -I don't believe in executing people for what they say, however I do also believe in a countries right to self govern, but I also believe other countries should condemn certain behaviour - it's a fine line with, and a fuzzy one.

      - I also believe in 'when in rome'. Eg I was a Catholic in Morocco, and you can bet your boots I didn't go anywhere near their (fairly impressive!) mosques (as I didn't have a good understanding of their requirements, and I wasn't around long enough to have the time to learn).

      • H4cks0r1337a few seconds ago
        The US is a theocracy now too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcysQmPQvbs
      • vconnor2 hours ago
        > the US believes religion doesn't belong in government, a lot of the rest of the world does.

        Wait, did I step in a different timeline, one where there is not a major cultural battlefield in the US that’s centered around religion?

        You might want to see your country from outside of its borders to have a more objective perspective on the matter. The US is on its way to becoming a Christian fundamentalist country in ways we haven’t seen since the middle ages in Europe, for example.

        I guess it’s to be expected as all the religious weirdos fled Europe for the Americas, and they hold still a lot of power. I mean, you have “In God we trust” in your banknotes. Not very secular of you.

      • bestouff3 hours ago
        It's a joke. In the US you have to put your hand on a Bible or equivalent when testifying in court.

        France is a country where religion is separated from government.

        • tekla38 minutes ago
          >In the US you have to put your hand on a Bible or equivalent when testifying in court.

          No you don't. Why is this lie allowed to perpetuate?

    • newyankee4 hours ago
      Based on original reading of the story though the man's comments were reported to Saudi Arabia by his fellow countrymen. Also Blasphemy law exists in many other Islamic countries like Pakistan etc.
      • NDlurker4 hours ago
        Yeah, that's all disgusting human behavior. And it's even more disgusting that agents of the Saudi government will murder him over it.
      • gib4443 hours ago
        > Also Blasphemy law exists in many other Islamic countries like Pakistan etc.

        England and Wales isn't far off, some might claim. The blasphemy law was repealed only in 2008 but at the same time replaced with something not so severe, which got tested recently by a man burning convicted for burning a Quran, which got overturned on a high court appeal.

        Not to mention the whole raft of hate/offence/communication crimes that can be used in a similar manner:

        https://freespeechunion.org/fundraisers/blasphemy-fundraiser

        I know balance must exist, especially when it approaches physical violence, but we must have an absolute right to discuss intolerance and violence and misogyny no matter what book it's in.

    • throw937393933 hours ago
      There was a man who spread bacon on mosque door handle. He was sentenced to high security prison full of radical muslims. Latter he was killed in prison.

      This was in european nation!

      • Symbiote3 hours ago
        He killed himself.

        (I think it's off topic to discuss this, but I didn't like your misinformation.)

        https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/kevin-crehan...

        • throw937393933 hours ago
          Right! From your own link:

          > Crehan was returned to C wing at Horfield on Boxing Day without adequate health screening, without adequate communication from healthcare staff to prison guards

          I just wish UK would punish dog attacks with the same vigour! Unleashing your dog on muslim is a brutal racial hate assault!

          • orwinan hour ago
            Clearly mentally ill people should get the benefit of the doubt for nonviolent offenses. Also, not a max security prison.
      • Biganon3 hours ago
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    • aprilthird20214 hours ago
      They are allies with the world bully whom no one can oppose. Nothing will change there as a result
  • Athanase0002 hours ago
    Here are my thoughts. 1. Don't commit crimes. If saying or writing a given phrase is a crime in the country you reside in, don't say it and don't write it. This poor man was apparently aware of this, given he deleted his comments a few minutes after writing it. Unfortunately, too late: in the meantime, some extremists had the time to screenshot his comment and send them to his employer.

    2. Related, how did Saudi Arabia attorney establish that the comment was authentic? Nothing could be easier than doctoring a screenshot. Did they get Facebook to cooperate and confirm this comment was indeed posted by this man? The articles don't mention this.

    3. I hope Sri Lanka and other countries will put pressure on Saudi Arabia to get this man a pardon.

    4. It would be very easy for Facebook to implement automated censorship of comments that would cause their author to be killed, imprisoned, or fined. This is obviously censorship, but useful censorship. With Jev or similar models you could do it for a few hundreds of cents per comment, if that, and no doubt Facebook could do it for even cheaper.

  • infinite_spin3 hours ago
    When I search google, using his name, the AI generated content at the top works.. if I ask what comment he left, suddenly the AI generated content stops working.
  • zaik6 hours ago
    This is of course wrong, no matter what the comment was, but it is strange that the article does not say what the comment was.
    • Animats5 hours ago
      If someone published the comment, they'd be dodging assassination attempts, like Salman Rushdie [1] and the staff of Charlie Hebdo.[2]

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie

      [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Hebdo_shooting

      • EA-31675 hours ago
        That’s… Rushdie was targeted by Iranian leadership and Hebdo was committed by Algerian Al Qaeda members. Neither have a whole lot to do with Saudi Arabia.

        Maybe you’re thinking of Kashoggi?

        • newyankee4 hours ago
          It is not being a target of a state, but rather the target of a group of people who take blasphemy very seriously
          • EA-31674 hours ago
            In the case of Iran it’s literally the same thing.
            • boxed4 hours ago
              And so many more Islamic countries.
    • JdeBP5 hours ago
      If you want a better source for Saudi Arabia and Sri Lanka, look for a newspaper that is a lot closer to them than the U.S. version of the Daily Mirror is. Even the U.K. version of the Daily Mirror would not be a good source for this sort of thing.

      * https://tamilguardian.com/content/explainer-sivarasa-anojan-...

      • rramadass5 hours ago
        On 7 October, Amnesty International called on Saudi Arabia to quash the sentence and release him immediately and unconditionally.

        "No one should be imprisoned, let alone face execution simply for expressing their views, even if these are deemed insulting or offensive," said Heba Morayef, Amnesty's regional director for the Middle East and North Africa.

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    • mips_avatar3 hours ago
      It was apparently something derogatory about the profit Muhammad according to other reporting. Though I guess news outlets are skeptical to mention the profit Muhammad.
      • blooalien2 hours ago
        * prophet (profit=gaining money or wealth)
  • rramadass5 hours ago
    Intolerant Saudi Arabia and its inhuman treatment of non-muslims. Why the world puts up with it is beyond me.

    The problem was a trivial one; there was a dog in a non-muslim religious procession which was wantonly kicked by a muslim man. As any normal empathetic human would, this person wrote a facebook post condemning it in somewhat strong terms which may have had some religious flavour which he later deleted and apologized for.

    The above is what is being tried under blasphemous laws by the Saudis. Where is the outrage from the international media, human rights organizations and the larger world?

    We are living in the 21st century, for goodness' sake!

    • drivebyhooting3 hours ago
      They put up with it because of oil. Isn’t that obvious?
    • aliasxneo4 hours ago
      People have been outraged by Sharia Law for centuries.
      • za3faran3 hours ago
        Shariah prohibits dealing inhumanely with animals.
    • aprilthird20213 hours ago
      The Western world puts up with it because they don't care. The only thing they care about is money and power. Both of which Saudi can help them with
  • snvzzan hour ago
    Sharia law comes together with Islam.

    Once there's enough Islam, Sharia law gets adopted.

  • samyar2 hours ago
    As someone who lives in a majority Muslim country, I would say that yeah it’s so fucked up this really made me sad. If you’re an atheist you really can’t critic anyone. They don’t accept logic. They just want to cut your head off and that exists amongst the most peaceful Muslims you have ever seen in your life? Trust me they are not going to tolerate any criticism or any freedom of speech. They only want to cut your head off. And they always reply with some nonsense about freedom. They don’t even understand what freedom is especially freedom of speech.
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    • aprilthird20213 hours ago
      What governments? The US? Come on that's their bestest pal. Trump literally defended the current dictator of Saudi after he bonesawed that journalist and said the guy deserved it
      • jazzyjackson3 hours ago
        It’s weird that Trump bought a yacht from Kashogi’s dad, huh