Show HN: K10s – A Clickable Kubernetes TUI (Go, Bubble Tea)(github.com)
53 pointsby pierreneter3 hours ago12 comments
  • bearjaws2 hours ago
    I really don't care to click anything in a terminal, and I don't understand why its being added more and more.

    When Claude added it, I immediately hated it since you click into the terminal and accidentally click something.

    • keybrd-intrrpt2 hours ago
      100%

      I don't mind something that requires a modifier key like Shift+click to follow a URL

      But so many times now I'll click to get focus and now that's selected some option or opened some pane.

      If I wanted that, I'd use the Claude Desktop app!

      • serbuvladan hour ago
        As a total side tangent, but I really like the following flow: focus follows mouse but focus doesn't raise the window, clicking on the top bar, or Win+Click raises it (notice how neither of these 2 results in an interaction).

        Unfortunately, of the popular DE's, this is only supported in Xfce (?), and it's not supported in Windows or macOS afaik.

    • boredatoms2 hours ago
      Hopefully they add an option to atleast disable it

      Or can we do it with a cli wrapper process?

    • gchamonlivean hour ago

        I don't care about clicking into the terminal. I don't understand why people do this more and more.

  You just need to use your keyboard shortcuts correctly and navigate the tmux/kitty session as it's intended to.
      See that's all a matter of workflow? You don't understand it because it's just not for you
  • taude2 hours ago
    A clickable TUI is contrarian to why I use most CLI tools. Neat that they could build this, though, because it suits their needs.

    I'm fine with K9s and lazygit key-driven interfaces.

    I guess one thing that's good about a clickable TUI is that maybe it's easier to approach for some, wihtout releasing yet another memory hog Electron App?

    • XorNotan hour ago
      It's because tmux makes session resumption easy. Although for K8S it makes no real sense, for Claude it does.

      Of course with all the running around with AI programming, it would be nice if we could task sometime to making remote desktop not suck on Linux.

  • frevib2 hours ago
    My Pavlov reaction when I see the Claude icon next to the committer is: not touching this. Is trust in OSS now completely gone?
    • pierreneter2 hours ago
      The code generated by Claude is fully under my control, and I make sure it works exactly as I intend. I could have hidden this by committing it myself, but I choose to acknowledge that I had Claude's help
      • frevib2 hours ago
        It’s not your fault. The problem is now that my mother in law can vibe code a complete operating system, I cannot distinguish quality from shit any more. And the last few OSS projects that I tried that had the Claude icon where shit and breaking in many ways.
        • Infernalan hour ago
          It's kinda like eternal September but for software engineering. There was a time that just being on the internet, having an email address, etc. was a signal that indicated a level of technical proficiency. Now everyone has that connectivity, it doesn't mean anything anymore.

          Same concept, but github repos now.

      • geraneum11 minutes ago
        > I make sure it works exactly as I intend

        I appreciate the effort. May I ask how do you tackle this?

      • darklinearan hour ago
        The Claude-generated README doesn't inspire confidence in that. I believe you checked all the code, but a lot of people are going to see that README and not give the project a second chance.
      • 0xCMPan hour ago
        This is also why I allow it to add these things to the commit. I think it's worth disclosing despite me checking everything it did myself.
    • XorNotan hour ago
      As a former AI skeptic I get it and still get it.

      But now other people's code is just a starting point for me forking an app to do exactly what I want it to - it's inspiration because code is cheap.

      Of course for larger projects we will still need solid components underlying them, but what you're really talking about is just maturity - it's very easy to produce a lot of output now but you can't replace actual history or having more then exactly 1 maintainer.

  • advisedwang2 hours ago
    I hope vibecoding doesn't mean the concept of contributing upstream gets lost. At least some of this (mouse clicking) would have been a great upstream contribution instead of rewrite.
  • bornpsy2 hours ago
    It would have been better if that opened a browser tab, one binary, much more flexibility and more elegant
  • fragmede2 hours ago
    > Nothing is hidden behind memorised keys

    Why is this a good thing? Have a help you your access via ? and document what the keys are. Don't dumb the interface down.

  • rdg4244 minutes ago
    Maybe try sofka :-)

    https://github.com/nklmilojevic/sofka

    That's the actual k9s successor imho!

  • colesantiagoan hour ago
    TUIs are such a complete fad which i’m getting annoyed with.

    It seems we cannot move on from them and I think we should.

    It is a shame because surely there must be something better than terminals and TUIs.

  • mococa2 hours ago
    What is the difference from k9s from this vibecoded clone?
  • globular-toast2 hours ago
    I wish we had a "cool" GUI toolkit. GUIs are way better at this stuff. Adding point and click is so close to being a GUI, the only possible reason this is a TUI is fashion.
    • jprd2 hours ago
      How are GUIs "way better at this stuff"? I can't see it, but would like to understand how you feel that a GUI can improve on the management of automated processes at scale.
    • ellg2 hours ago
      I've been using https://github.com/longbridge/gpui-component

      Imgui is also good for this

    • jswelker2 hours ago
      Idk if you are managing k8s stuff you are probably in a terminal already. Staying in a terminal is nice. Plus having persistent multiplexer sessions is a big deal in locked down corporate environments.

      I appreciate the tui.

      • orbital-decay2 hours ago
        Seems like a task for the window manager and a remote access protocol.
    • bijowo16762 hours ago
      I think X11 is the GUI version of terminal interface

      we need more experiments with X11 interfaces

    • _def2 hours ago
      How would a "cool" GUI Toolkit look like for you?
      • orbital-decayan hour ago
        Most common things power users seem to want from TUIs on desktop:

        - Easy efficient remote access. Pixel streaming and things like GTK Broadway are out. Needs a proper protocol/standard that would send styling-neutral primitives (and that is not X11 forwarding), and the entire toolkit architecture built around that. Something like SPICE/QXL but more semantics-aware? Not sure, might be too low level and chatty.

        - Staying in the terminal. This is a matter of window management, though a toolkit can offer good defaults so this doesn't feel janky.

        - Keyboard-first. Trivial. "GUI is for filthy mouse casuals" is a ludicrous idea.

        - Low bloat. Web and things like GTK Broadway are out.

        I haven't seen two similar opinions on actual architecture and stack, however being available in Rust will be a great start.

    • esafak2 hours ago
      That's what the web is for: https://ui.shadcn.com/
  • dropbox_miner2 hours ago
    You missed the chance to use kittens (k10s) as your TUI's icon.
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