30 pointsby thm4 hours ago11 comments
  • donmcronald3 hours ago
    I bet this is insanely expensive. Their page announcing pricing changes shows what looks like a 5 hour block of non-expiring playtime [1]. They aren't doing $1 or $2 transactions, so my guess is somewhere in the $1 per hour range.

    People were worried about GTA6 costing $100 on launch. How about $100 per month if you want to play a couple hours a night and half a day on weekends? That's a lot, but I bet it's not uncommon.

    It's the perfect testing scenario for those who want to take away ownership and replace it with forever rentals. They have a super popular game that people are desperate to play, the studio isn't launching it on PC for day 1, and the AI industry has given them an excuse to push console pricing over the moon.

    Cynical people would see it as being very, very convenient.

    The big tech companies are loving their invented supply crisis because it's price anchoring everyone into thinking that owning a PC or console or doing any type of gaming should cost half your paycheck.

    Good for Microsoft though. A lot of people were probably considering a console purchase just for GTA6 and spending a few hundred dollars for a streaming service while waiting for the PC port is going to seem like a "good deal".

    1. https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/09/03/xbox-cloud-gaming-cha...

  • Foxhulsan hour ago
    From a Kotaku article on the same subject:

    Update 10/6/2026 11:42 p.m.: Xbox chief strategy officer Matthew Ball has said that The Verge‘s report from earlier today claiming Xbox had exclusive streaming rights to GTA 6 was “misreporting.”

    “We are looking forward to launching GTAVI on XBOX November 19, though the game will not be streaming exclusively or to PC.”

    • donmcronald35 minutes ago
      > will not be streaming exclusively

      So it’ll be streaming on multiple platforms?

      > or to PC

      If it’s streaming, but not to PC, what’s it streaming to?

      • Foxhuls20 minutes ago
        TVs and phones maybe? I’m not sure and it’s definitely a good question. My only guess at this point could be rockstar specifically restricting streaming to PC.
      • MYEUHD27 minutes ago
        > If it’s streaming, but not to PC, what’s it streaming to?

        Xbox consoles probably.

        Apparently they're introducing a pay-as-you-go option next month. So instead of paying $80/$100 upfront, you'd pay it (or more!) gradually as you stream the game.

  • 3eb7988a16633 hours ago
    What exactly is streaming rights for Xbox?

    - I don't buy the game, I pay a cloud rental fee and can play so long as my membership is active? Unlimited hours?

    - I buy the game, but don't have to use up hard drive space?

    - So long as I have an Xbox streaming account, I could stream on my PC? A tablet?

    • haunter21 minutes ago
      >What exactly is streaming rights for Xbox

      It means it won't be available on Geforce Now, Netflix, or Amazon Luna

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  • xvxvx3 hours ago
    They started limiting the hours of Xbox game streaming from 5-15 per month depending on tier. Xbox Game Pass Ultimate costs $22.99 per month and the limit is 15 hours. That will not work for GTA6 which has an estimated 80-300 hours of gameplay.
    • asdff2 hours ago
      Way more than 80-300 hours. People are still messing around in GTA5 online and the game's been out 13 years. Some people probably have 4-5 figures worth of hours of playtime in that game.
      • mikestorrentan hour ago
        Does that at some point not cross a line from pleasurable escapism into reality avoidance?
        • asdffan hour ago
          Most people's book reading or screen watching numbers probably reach similar totals over years. Is that escapism or avoidance? Depends on the context of the rest of the life of course.
          • brainwad38 minutes ago
            In the same universe? If you only read/watch stories from one fictional universe that's also weird.

            On the other hand I've sunk thousands of hours into sim games and I wouldn't call it reality avoidance.

        • sampullmanan hour ago
          Maybe? But then you have to defend every other hobby from the same argument.
    • donmcronald2 hours ago
      Wasn't it over a decade ago that the Guitar Hero guy said their goal was to turn every purchase of the game into $500 of sales?

      I wouldn't even be a tiny bit surprised if finishing GTA6 via streaming costs you $200-300.

  • mike_d3 hours ago
    The article did a great job of scooping sand over the huge turd this actually is.

    Microsoft is going to be charging you per hour to play GTA 6.

    • donmcronald2 hours ago
      Yep. People need to understand this is the end game for them. Pay per-minute for everything you do.
      • mikestorrentan hour ago
        It's absolutely optional. Why feel any pressure at all to do this? How much FOMO do you really suffer from? There's so much free or abandonware gaming material out there that you could never run out of new things to try without spending a cent... paying per minute is far from mandatory as long as you can still own hardware, and computers are still pretty cheap all things considered.
        • auyez35 minutes ago
          Also other than abandonware, there is a large market of indie devs
        • anon109an hour ago
          Good luck finding people to play abandonware with you.
        • Larrikin29 minutes ago
          It is a concerted effort the older you get to continue to find new music. Most people after a certain age stop organically discovering new music and having a new favorite song. Once you stop finding the new music without the effort, a lot of people seem to slip into the trap of believing that the best songs came out when they were younger and everything else is just not as good. But, I believe they simply stopped looking and became closed off to new experiences. All the new songs are going to be worse if you don't give new songs or genres the chance you used to give new music.

          Video games I believe are similar. There are a massive amount of good video games from the past, but that does not mean all of the best or even your favorite one were already created in the past. Same as the "best" song did not come out or was discovered in your twenties.

          Another poster also already made the point, but you will also miss out on community. I spent a lot of time on the Dreamcast playing Phantasy Star Online back when it was new. Playing that exact same game on my Dreamcast today is in no way the same experience it would be today.

          I absolutely find it disgusting that there seems to be an end goal of trying to remove ownership of games. A lot needs to be done to ensure game preservation continues. But I also really disagree that this transition being forced on people by the greedy is unimportant because you can just play old games.

      • buzeran hour ago
        Why pay per-minute when you can do pay per-hour and partial hours are counted as full hours?
      • peddling-brink2 hours ago
        They should make a black mirror episode about that..
        • mrheosuper5 minutes ago
          There is an episode about implant subscription
  • hbbkkdnan hour ago
    I think this is a good idea depending on the price? Almost all games I own I play less then 5 maybe 10 hours

    Does not justify investment in hardware or full price buy

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  • MBCook3 hours ago
    Oh that’s a nice coup for them. They need anything they can get to survive.
  • xyst3 hours ago
    How much did MS pay for "exclusive streaming rights?"
    • Hamuko2 hours ago
      My guess is "too much".
  • wolvoleo3 hours ago
    Does that mean I can play the game without owning an xbox? That would be nice as the pc version will take forever. I could just subscribe for a month or so.

    Ps couldn't read TFA as it's paywalled

    • danielmeskin2 hours ago
      If you think you can finish the game in at most 15 hours then yes subscribing for a month or so will work
  • avaer3 hours ago
    Taking a step back, it's a little sad that exclusion is considered something the industry celebrates now.

    Back in the day Doom was literally the number one PC software and everyone copied it. At no detriment to anyone, considering gaming is now the number one entertainment in the world by revenue.

    But modern console games are little morcels chopped up and force fed to customers that have no ownership or choice. MSFT is proudly boasting how little of the game the plebs are "exclusively" allowed to stream.

    Kids these days don't know how bad they have it.

    • m4rtink29 minutes ago
      I think this time due to their greed it will spell their doom. ;-)