1 pointby humans_thrive3 hours ago4 comments
  • ggm2 hours ago
    If a significant number of society cannot buy the goods and services, then what sets the price for the real goods and services outside of AI that we need?

    I have no problem with a future without work, if the economists explain how the price/value equation works. There's a solution, but it's not been considered appropriate for some years, since December 1991

    • humans_thrive2 hours ago
      Very good point. Yet, Robert C. Allen might have somewhat different opinion, not that I support it. Would be interesting to see a roadmap to UHI though.
  • slaattnes3 hours ago
    I don't understand why this question comes up so often. If you like your work, you keep doing it even if there's no salary. If you rather do something else, you do that. If you don't know what to do, you explore till you find something of interest. I don't mean to be rude. I'm self-employed and always has been since university 12 years ago, so maybe there's aspects I just don't see.
    • humans_thrive3 hours ago
      That may be the answer. Out of curiosity: Will UHI cover for your work expenses if there is no salary? What roles plays communication in your life and will you be able to continue it? Wondering if all people without forced or available job will be able to find something they like.
    • selestifyan hour ago
      > I don't understand why this question comes up so often.

      You don't understand because baked into your entire reply is the assumption that a decent standard of living is guaranteed.

      Based on current trends around economic inequality, it seems quite likely that the average person may be given very little to subsist on once their main source of leverage (their ability to perform valuable labor) has been removed.

  • bigyabai3 hours ago
    Learn to raise chickens, subsistence farm. It's easier than it looks.
    • PaulHoule3 hours ago
      it's easy to do if you don't depend on the results. harder to do if you do.

      also there is a sort of exposure to the environment that we're just starting to recognize in the era of climate change: e.g. your ancestors felt out of control of their lives and prayed to the gods for a good harvest back before the empire came with its soldiers and scribes and took away their religion.

      • humans_thrive3 hours ago
        Fusion won't affect climate change, neither fission, the techs of the future
    • humans_thrive3 hours ago
      What educational approaches, communities, or social institutions should we build to help humans thrive?
      • Eaglo3 hours ago
        Start with a family, work your way out from there...
        • humans_thrive3 hours ago
          Very good start. Home schooling, infinite vacation. Next?
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  • humans_thrive3 hours ago
    With material security, we could focus on developing ourselves and caring for others
    • PaulHoule3 hours ago
      The question is: does self-development mean anything without pressure from the environment?
      • humans_thrive3 hours ago
        No societal pressure under UBI/UHI (if it's truly Universal), no pressure from env under green tech. Farming will be a hobby only, with robots.