33 pointsby handfuloflight3 hours ago20 comments
  • impulser_2 hours ago
    The more time goes on the more I think there is basically no moat in AI products because everyone is literally building the same shit. There is zero creativity in AI product right now. Yeah they might be different designs, but they are all the same exact product under the skin.

    Cursor, Devin, Factory, Amp Code, Codex, Claude Codex, Antigravity, Conductor, OpenCode, T3 Code, Orca, Emdash, and hundreds of more of the same exact shit.

    Yeah they might market it same fancy revolutionary technology like Orbs, but it not it just an agent harness local or remote. You can do orbs literally with Claude Code with a single prompt it not special.

    We have AI that lets you build things freely and yet here we are all building the same exact thing.

    This is just coding harness. The personal assistant space is the exact same.

    • jr3592an hour ago
      Agreed. I think coding agents have shown us one very important thing: It was never about the code.

      Your idea and how well you can execute on it, i.e. how well you understand the problem space, is what has always mattered.

      Coding being so easy now has just pulled back the curtain and shown the world that software developers really don't have much left to contribute. It's been done, a thousandfold.

    • personjerry2 hours ago
      what is Orbs?
      • hmokiguessan hour ago
        I think it's like a Plumbus
        • jr3592an hour ago
          Which btw is very similar to Lorpi
  • hmokiguess2 hours ago
    The velocity of how this space gets reskinned is wild.

    Clearly we do not yet feel satisfied with the way we consume and work with agents at scale.

    It looks like perhaps rather than skinning we need a more novel UX or workflow to emerge.

    I can't help but think all of this is living on borrowed time and eventually it will look more like talking to your "assistant" that fields everything for you and maybe some new async interruption model that fits humans better.

    Biggest bottleneck in my opinion still is how to solve for information density.

    • siscia2 hours ago
      Thanks so much for saying this!

      Even with a single instance of Claude Code, running I am producing so much code that it is impossible to even self-review.

      Can we please focus on that?

      • efields2 hours ago
        Self-review is an anti-pattern.
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        • david_p2 hours ago
          Proofreading an essay before submitting it is an anti pattern?
        • jasonpeacock2 hours ago
          So much this. We don't review the assembly/machine-code that the compiler creates, why do we still review the code the AI generates?

          If it works as desired then ship it; if it doesn't then iterate until it does.

          • surgical_fire6 minutes ago
            _because compiling a code language into machine language is deterministic_.

            If you think that compiling and explaining in English something to an LLM so it outputs code is the same activity, I just hope to never have you as a coworker.

          • ryandrake2 hours ago
            This is only OK where “it works” is the only criteria for accepting a software change.
          • poolnoodle2 hours ago
            That's such an AI bro take
          • six_seven2 hours ago
            Did you re-read your comment before hitting reply?
          • therein2 hours ago
            Because the compiler does a deterministic transform on the input. And the input is less ambiguous than natural language and following more strict rules.

            Why ask obvious things?

        • pipsterwo2 hours ago
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      • antoineMoPaan hour ago
        I built some tools that lets me view diffs and summon agents to execute changes. You can probably vibe code that in a few minutes.
      • mypalmike2 hours ago
        We simply need neural implant technology to overclock our brains, making the world (and its Claude instances) appear to go slower.
        • hmokiguess2 hours ago
          You got downvoted but your joke made me think of the show The Dark Matter and how they had the concept of a hallway with infinite doors to represent the multiverse to the human brain that cannot comprehend the state of superposition.

          I sort of get what you're going for maybe? In a sense these things are gonna evolve at a rate where we are not going to be able to operate at their plane and we will need a sort of UX translation

  • tptacek2 hours ago
    This looks basically the same as what Paseo does, and Paseo is open source, works on lots of different platforms, and has native apps.

    I have a homelab-type setup with macOS, phone, and ARM and x64 Linux platforms, all of which I can dispatch agent work to from my laptop from, like, an airplane.

    It's extremely useful, scales up the number of experiments I can run, and decouples me from my dev laptop. But it's also just table stakes at this point.

    • rihegheran hour ago
      I don't know if it is me but with Paseo I can't seems to resume a Claude code session. I feel I would prefer a mobile interface to herdr that is agent aware. Am I the only one not finding the right solution?
      • tptacekan hour ago
        That's not a problem I've had, but I believe you. My thing here isn't so much "Paseo is amazing" (though: having something like Paseo is a pretty big power-up from directly working with model harnesses) as it is "whatever else you do needs to be meaningfully better than Paseo to be worth doing".

        My real belief about this stuff is that these things are all light sabers: developers are just going to build their own.

  • Xiol2 hours ago
    I am so tired.
    • speedgoose2 hours ago
      The game is waiting out to see which jobs we can have instead.
  • barishnamazov2 hours ago
    How is this different from running Paseo [0] in your VM?

    [0] https://paseo.sh/

    • warkdarrior2 hours ago
      Paseo seems to use a slightly less dark background color.
  • sunir2 hours ago
    sudo pmset disablesleep 1

    Your Mac will now work while the lid is closed.

    • hosel2 hours ago
      Exactly. My laptop just never goes to sleep, and it’s been great. What else do you need?
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    • kruxigt2 hours ago
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  • dimator2 hours ago
    It seems like there's a similar project every week.
    • jr35922 hours ago
      Yea. The people making these things are vibe coding them out the door before even doing the smallest little bit of market research. It's lunacy.
    • handfuloflight2 hours ago
      So why does Hacker News keep upvoting them?
  • jr35922 hours ago
    I don't get it. ChatGPT's Codex app allows you to use your machine, when its locked. It has full computer use, can code, open browsers, apps, etc. Why would we need a separate app for this?
    • victor22an hour ago
      They're milking "hourly cloud" charges which is absurdly high
  • willmeyers2 hours ago
    All these agent conductors are like new frontend frameworks of the before times. Everyone is making and trying to market them.
    • jr35922 hours ago
      Seriously. Who gets suckered into this hype? I find the default MacOS terminal to be plenty. Start a new tab, start claude, rinse & repeat.
      • willmeyers2 hours ago
        Yeah they're just resume padding for AI engineers or something
  • skybrian2 hours ago
    A custom Mac application seems limiting compared to a web app. I use a web browser to connect from my laptop, tablet, and phone to use Linux VMs on exe.dev.

    But it might be nice to have a nice way to run VMs on my Mac mini, too.

  • mkrecny2 hours ago
  • mattkevan2 hours ago
    It's so obvious on projects like this that everything's generated.

    "One line. A worktree, a box, an agent." Fuck does that mean?

    Have some pride and actually write the text yourself. Tell my why it's interesting. What problems are you trying to solve?

    If you can't be bothered to write it, why should I be bothered to read it.

    • giwook2 hours ago
      Why use brain when AI
      • mattkevan2 hours ago
        Claude 5 hitting developers and product managers like 4o hit people who thought ChatGPT was their boyfriend or they were inventing a new branch of science.
  • ninininino2 hours ago
    "The agents run on your boxes, not on your laptop. Close it and they keep working; open it in the morning and what they did is there."

    What is a box? Sorry is that a remote VM? A local VM that stays awake when the laptop screen is closed?

  • wredcoll2 hours ago
    How does this have so many upvotes?
    • Tadpole91812 hours ago
      Because anyone who says you can't buy GitHub stars or HN up votes is lying.
      • surgical_fire2 minutes ago
        How can I sell github stars? Is there a marketplace for that? My HN upvotes are for sale as well.

        I would trade my HN account for a larger SD, or a good memory stick.

  • kvakkefly2 hours ago
    Orca clone?
  • personjerry2 hours ago
    So it's another codex/claude cloud or modal?
  • rvz2 hours ago
    Yet another Vibe coded slop clone of a remote claude code.

    The quality bar is quite low these days.

    • jr35922 hours ago
      I don't know why this is getting downvoted. It's completely obviously that this is a 100% vibe coded slop project which is already supported with out of the box tools. There was, and is, almost zero need for this.
  • atrokhymchuk2 hours ago
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