37 pointsby jamesgill7 hours ago23 comments
  • jordanb7 hours ago
    Don't let a guy with a survival bunker decide what "bad things" humanity should accept.
    • bigbadfeline6 hours ago
      > Don't let a guy with a survival bunker decide what "bad things" humanity should accept.

      I don't think he's asking for a permission though, we're just being "informed"... from inside his bunker.

      And what happened to his original promises of "bright AI future". All AI has given us to date is inflation, unemployment and wars, if that's "bright" I shudder at the thought of what the dark "bad things" would be.

      PS. I don't blame AI, it has huge potential, however, what actually happens is in the hands of people who have given enough reasons not to be trusted,

  • tudorizer7 hours ago
    How are above-average tech people still working for and listening to this bloke? What am I missing?
    • gogurt20004 hours ago
      From speaking with people who work for OpenAI, Meta, and xAI:

      1) They don't believe the harmful things they're being warned of will affect them. They won't believe those are real problems until those problems affect them personally.

      2) They believe that if they don't do the work, someone else will, so they might as well be the one getting paid for it.

      3) They have a graduate degree in ML or AI and they don't see a path to a similarly paying job in another field given their work experience and credentials.

    • JohnFen4 hours ago
      Money is a helluva drug.
  • onlyrealcuzzo7 hours ago
    > I am willing to accept a price that you must pay.
  • freehorse7 hours ago
    Maybe Sam Altman should accept some bad things happening to him for the benefits of the world.
  • flowerthoughts4 hours ago
    I'm gonna go invest in some psycotherapy companies, because the world is gonna need to repair a lot of trauma after the artificial intelligences that currently rule the headlines are done.
  • rich_sasha7 hours ago
    > The world should accept some bad things happening for the benefits of AI

    Looks a lot like “The world should accept some bad things happening for the benefits of Sam Altman”

  • stogot6 hours ago
    The board that ousted Sam seem more and more and more and more prescient
  • KerrAvon7 hours ago
    This is not candor; it's an excuse. It's software. Put up guardrails or take an axe to the data center fiber if you're unwilling to do so.
  • prologic7 hours ago
    Who does Altman think he is anyway? For that matter Elon Musk too. What is wrong with these guys? What is with the arrogance?!
    • combobyte5 hours ago
      We pay them too much money, it really is as simple as that. We built a culture in which the amount of money you make is synonymous with your value as an individual and then we gave way too much fucking money to people who don't actually do that much (or sometimes anything all) for society.
  • drivingmenuts4 hours ago
    OH HELL NO! It's software, not a living being. End discussion.
  • amphitheatre7 hours ago
    > Some of you may die. That is a sacrifice that I am willing to make.
  • jasonlotito7 hours ago
    I like to temper my world views with a particular thought experiment. I ask myself "What if the bad thing applied to me and my loved ones?"

    In this context, Sam Altman is saying, outloud, that he accepts bad things happening to him and his loved ones for the benefits of AI.

    • combobyte5 hours ago
      No he isn't. Sam has more than enough money and resources to insulate himself from any of the harms AI could realistic do to society, and he knows that.
  • sssilver7 hours ago
    ...and exactly what bad thing will happen to Sam Altman as a result of AI?
  • altruios7 hours ago
    sam altman: the Taravangian of this world.
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  • baggachipz7 hours ago
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    • swingandamiss7 hours ago
      You used quotes as if that came from the article, but your quote is a complete fabrication.
      • argsnd7 hours ago
        I think it’s fairly obvious to anyone with basic pop culture knowledge that it’s a quote from Shrek
      • jayd167 hours ago
        Its a satirical quote from the movie Shrek.
      • chollida17 hours ago
        I think its actually from Shrek, but hey, you lived up to your user name!!
      • baggachipz7 hours ago
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  • deadlinermusic7 hours ago
    Didn't this guy rape his own sister?
    • NDlurker5 hours ago
      I believe Annie Altman
    • claaams7 hours ago
      Allegedly yes. Her testimony is pretty sick tbh.
    • imdsm7 hours ago
      Is this site the place to make such unproven allegations?
      • kelseyfrog7 hours ago
        He's only asking questions. Hence the question mark.
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  • mikemarsh7 hours ago
    "Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make"
    • swingandamiss7 hours ago
      Why did two different people post this exact same comment?
      • dqv7 hours ago
        Because it's a commonly remembered when someone says something like what Altman said. The comments in question were posted within 33 seconds of each other, which isn't enough time for the later person to notice it was already posted. It's also pretty common for a bunch of people to parrot variations of "we investigated ourselves and found nothing wrong" when someone who investigated themselves found no wrongdoing.
      • seba_dos17 hours ago
        Yeah, it's highly suspicious that two people happened to have watched the same highest-grossing, Oscar-winning movie sometime in their past and now reference it when an obvious chance to shows up.
      • mikemarsh6 hours ago
        Replying to your reply: I actually wish I had watched way fewer movies (and fewer times) as a kid. I envy you!
  • werwer1127 hours ago
    What is wrong with this argument? Isn't this the case for ANY new technology?

    Didn't deaths by train go up once we started laying track?

    Didn't death by cars start going up once we started driving?

    Didn't crime become easier once gangs had phones to coordinate with each other?

    This is silly. These tech CEOs have to understand nuance does not read well in headlines but still... for a bunch of "smart" people on HN to doom over this headline is silly.

    • wang_li7 hours ago
      Didn't they ban cool glowing radium dials because it caused cancer? You can adopt new technologies with regulations or even ban them entirely if the downside is too high or the benefit is too low. I'm unconvinced that the benefits of AI outweigh douchery of Sam and Dario.
  • tamimio7 hours ago
    More of: for the benefits of *OpenAI

    Suddenly, the doom end of world scenarios are just “some bad things”

  • ssalka7 hours ago
    The optics here are bad, but the same argument has been made before with other technologies, eg cars: we accept some amount of traffic fatalities for the benefit of traveling more efficiently
    • geraneum7 hours ago
      That’s an irrelevant. Here are some more:

      - take this medicine, it may be bitter but good things will come out.

      - take this loan, you’ll have to pay more in return but you’ll “own” a house.

      Just because the same words are used, it doesn’t mean impact, effects, consequences and outcomes are going to be the same.