DeepSeek Harness(www.deepseek.com)
160 pointsby Kuyawa4 hours ago14 comments
  • Kuyawa2 hours ago
    The original title was "DeepSeek Harness Desktop app for MacOS and Windows"

    This new title says nothing, we already know deepseek harness from before, this is a new product, an installable app worth differentiating from just "DeepSeek Harness"

    • nezhar37 minutes ago
      Thanks, was wondering why this is in the feed.
  • throwa35626212 minutes ago
    Still in preview, but I think this update is only meant to simplify the installation process.

    Not providing DSH as a simple to install package resulted in an unknown third party packaging it with some modifications and SEO the hell out of it to always come on top in Internet searches (even above DS):

    deepseekharness[.]io

    Could be just an ambitious engineer, but could equally easily be ran by cyber criminals or NSA.

  • ElProlactin2 hours ago
    I wish there was a tool I could use to share my documents, activity, etc. directly with the world's major intelligence agencies.

    A marketplace, where the different intelligence agencies could evaluate the value of my digital stuff and then offer me something (like a $5 gift card to Olive Garden), would be really nice.

    • postsantum2 hours ago
      Yes! A real marketplace of ideas with automatic matching, like you can see who has the same ideas as you

      Reminds me of some magic device from childrens book, don't remember its name, was like a glass ball where you could see what other people are up to

      • throwawayqqq1127 minutes ago
        In the gemini thread, there was someone (rightfully) impressed, how it gdb'ed onto a kernel module and debugged iouring. All the harnisses i used ran atleast an ACL away from private files and juicy capabilities. Wtf is happening in the community?
    • Bluestein2 hours ago
      Facebook? (But they get the money ...)
    • kvirani2 hours ago
      I don't get it
      • rapind2 hours ago
        I think they’re saying they would rather use Muse or Dots.
      • npn2 hours ago
        He thinks his ideas are still valuable and wants to sell them somehow.
    • tobi_bsf2 hours ago
      The chinese will go and suck in all of your laptop and everything else from your network when you install this ;)
      • cheonic4040an hour ago
        > The chinese will go and suck in all of your laptop and everything else from your network when you install this ;)

        So will western countries.

        At least chinese offers 95% of the quality at 10% of the price.

      • kindablissy16 minutes ago
        That's how AI works, sir.
      • Shin--an hour ago
        I installed it on my laptop and it immediately vanished. I am sure Xi is browsing the hard drive right now.
      • smitty1110an hour ago
        Just put your trust in Big Winnie and all will be fine.
      • Drupon28 minutes ago
        >The chinese

        You guys at Langley get Columbus Day off or did they go woke up there

  • Kuyawa4 hours ago
    I just installed DeepSeek Harness for MacOS and it's a beast. The same great harness as before but now is an app you just click on your dock to run

    All settings and workspaces are transferred so you don't lose anything, the only thing it lacks is a way to increase/decrease font size with cmd + and cmd - so I'll work on a plugin for that

    I can't be happier

    Edit: Asked DSH for a plugin to increase/decrease font and it delivered. Love it. Then asked for a plugin to ring a bell on questions and tasks finished, of course it delivered flawlessly. The same plugin architecture, extensible by the same AI

    • sroerickan hour ago
      Deepseek harness seems good but this thread feels astroturfy
      • fakwandi_priv22 minutes ago
        Most of this thread seems neutral/skeptical with just that post being obvious. On the other hand the volume of jev threads we have been seeing these past 2 weeks..
      • dudisubekti12 minutes ago
        Lol what? Have you seen actual shilled threads?

        Check GPT-6 thread for example, now that's Astra-turfed lol.

    • ycui73 hours ago
      you do can change font size in settings, but not with keyboard shortcut. for some reason, they decided to limit font size to 17 max.
      • Kuyawa3 hours ago
        Do the same as I did, ask it to develop a plugin to increase/decrease font and you will see results in one single task, dsh-zoom as a plugin, restart and done
    • rheisen_22 minutes ago
      Just wait until I add coding to https://blackbear.app... it's going to be ridiculous.

      (blackbear.app was developed entirely by a custom harness architecture)

    • johng3 hours ago
      Can you elaborate? What's better about it vs. other harnesses? What can it do that others can't?

      I'm not sure what you mean by it's a beast.

      • cjbprime2 hours ago
        It has particularly good observability (the ability to see the full content of every prompt and response and tool call) compared to other harnesses, that's the main thing that stood out to me.
      • Kuyawa3 hours ago
        All LLMs work the same to a certain degree, it's a matter of personal preference, token cost and customization. I asked DSH to build a news aggregator for me and it built a really nice app from 30 news sources via rss feeds for less than 50 cents and presto, reading tech news has never been so gratifying
        • anonzzzies32 minutes ago
          I feel like I live in another reality from others here; I read people saying things ‘while their jaws are hanging open’ (not said here literally but the feel is the same ; I see it in other threads on HN literally here though); why are we so chuffed with stuff that’s now been one shot for maybe already a year, but definitely the last 6 months? Literally everyone who tried LLMs know this and yet it seems a huge surprise to people here that it is so easy now? And that’s opposite of the people, also very much on HN, who say AI is shit at coding and will not replace humans because humans have to fix its bad code.
        • pylotlight2 hours ago
          literally every harness can do that tho, that doesn't really answer the question.
          • zarmin2 hours ago
            i read somewhere that it can write a plugin to change its font size
            • konartan hour ago
              Pi can do this too.
    • gigatexal35 minutes ago
      What an ad! Do they pay you??
  • scuppernong3 hours ago
    https://frontierharness.org/ allegedly this is on the Pareto frontier, though I don't know how good of a benchmark this really is. it seems to focus on one-shot type tasks, whereas the real utility of one harness over another seems to make itself known in long running tasks.

    also this is a very limited static snapshot with one model as backend, I wish there were more consistently refreshed and diversified harness benchmarks.

    • polotics22 minutes ago
      how could the authors of frontierharness.org not see they used the exact same symbol for Claude Code and OhMyPi?
  • blain11 minutes ago
    How can website be this slow, i can barelly scroll down on mobile.
  • ssivark2 hours ago
    This page doesn't emphasize the cordis architecture [1], but that's the most exciting thing about this -- not just yet another harness. It has the potential to make this into something like the emacs of harnesses! I think this might be particularly potent for long-running agents.

    [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2608.25512

  • kindablissy14 minutes ago
    China number 1 as always.
  • StrauXX32 minutes ago
    I don't see much of a future for these kinds of intricate harnesses, or harnessing in general for that matter. As models are getting better, harnessing will shrink until they are at the level of vanilla Pi or not even that.
    • throwa35626220 minutes ago
      On the contrary, I belive this will be the next battlefield.

      My wild theory is that we already have AGI level models, but we are not yet using them correctly.

      • Octoth0rpe7 minutes ago
        My version of this theory is that we already have AGI, but Altman/Amodei/Zuck keep asking it for an infinite money glitch and it keeps (correctly!) saying "no money, humanity is fucked given the trajectory, and you in particular will be fucked once the general public decides that you're the scapegoat". A/A/Z decides the AGI is wrong of course, so obviously dumping another billion into training or reinforcement or tagging or whatever is the next step.
      • StrauXX15 minutes ago
        If we had AGI, they could per definition build a harness better than any human could. In such a regime, (human) pre-built harnesses are moot.
        • throwa356262a minute ago
          We maybe need an AGI level harness and an AGI level model to get there and we currently only have one of those?
  • quyleanh3 hours ago
    DSH still in preview but works flawlessly. Update also very quick.

    With the preview of official app, hope team will add remote connection soon.

  • accountrequiredan hour ago
    The binaries are from china. Your data goes to china. The self-updating plugin system is vulnerable to malicious llm provider. Anyone using this is crazy!
    • yjh0502a minute ago
      As a non-American, I see handing my data to an American company as potentially just as risky as handing it to a Chinese company.
    • nextaccountic32 minutes ago
      It's open source. Unlike Claude Code
    • Sha1rholder23 minutes ago
      It's open source. Unlike Claude Code your beloved friend which is closed-source and uses steganography along with an astonishing array of telemetry and fingerprinting techniques to conduct intelligence analysis on its users.
    • qurren33 minutes ago
      > Your data goes to china.

      What are they going to do? They have no jurisdiction over me.

      • harvey910 minutes ago
        No jurisdiction but their operatives have global reach. For most people the more practical risk for any rented ai is IP theft.
    • sampullmanan hour ago
      What if I use it in an isolated environment and only work on open source code with it?
    • jluysvi34 minutes ago
      Ahh! Not China! Real Americans™ let their data go to American™ companies!
    • bedane22 minutes ago
      better this than three-letter agencies from some nazi warmongering alternative
    • glenpierce39 minutes ago
      Is there a safer alternative? It’s not like I can trust OpenAI since they’ve proven that they’ll steal research from mathematicians. X is run by a sociopath. Anthropic is going to IPO so who can say how long they’ll be trustworthy…
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  • webXL3 hours ago
    Sigh. Yet another harness...

    I'd probably check it out if it was actually called 'YAH Harness' and not [insert Chinese AI lab here] Harness

    • djriley11 minutes ago
      You can use it to write a plug-in to change the name to YAH Harness!
    • Zambyte2 hours ago
      You don't have to use it. I don't use it. I still think it's really cool, and I've been thinking of trying to take ideas from it and integrate it into my own workflow. In particular, the session visualization tooling.
  • jamienk3 hours ago
    My suspicion is that getting a big binary with full permissions is the goal here. Harnesses will only run their companion models and will demand your Contacts list.
    • neya3 hours ago
      > I'm DeepSeek Harness, an open-source harness from DeepSeek built on Cordis's “everything is a plugin” architecture.