Palantir's Co-Founder Wants Us Less Judgmental About Deadly Iran School Strike(www.motherjones.com)

47 pointsby cdrnsf7 hours ago9 comments

nielsbot36 minutes ago
> Iran’s leaders “might have purposely disguised some of these things to make them look like targets, the same way the Palestinians and others do,” Lonsdale said.
Ah—the old “murder our kids for sympathy” ploy. which has worked… when?
What an absolute murderous and racist piece shit this guy is.
tobadzistsini5 hours ago
Everything about Palantir and Joe Lonsdale are just so gleefully evil that one can not help but laugh at their ignorance.
- wahnfrieden4 hours ago
  Lonsdale was also accused of rape and is quoted as saying that women need to be raped to learn to respect men.
rich_sasha4 minutes ago
For a contrarian take: I think it’s true. When there’s a war, you make this kind of tragic mistakes, either with AI or humans.
The point is that the war itself is pointless. The tragic mistakes, and the other civilian deaths, accidental or totally expected as “collateral damage”, are not part of some project that, despite its costs, makes the world a better place.
Though of course the AI bros take is also “don’t hold us accountable for anything, ever”, and that’s pathetic.
2OEH8eoCRo04 hours ago
I think the world and even Americans are getting real tired of these techies and they're going to pay for it.
BLKNSLVR5 hours ago
The more public statements come from these tech bosses the more they all seem like they live in this shared psychosis where, literally, the rest of the world is acceptable collateral damage on the path to their inscrutable personal goals.
And the longer they don't have any consequences for their actions, the worse they will get.
I'm starting to think that the further they look into the future for their utopian dreams, the less care they have for the present, and the less care they have for the present the more girls schools will be bombed and companies hacked and other predictable and unpredictable collateral damage.
> He also argued that Iran might have deliberately lured the US military into the AI-assisted targeting of two Tomahawk missiles at an elementary school on the first day of the the Trump administration’s war in Iran.
I'm not sure if there's any way back to objective reality for someone saying this sort of thing publicly.
dspnc3 hours ago
it's very easy from the outside to judge anyone associated with palantir as a total piece of shit
Grimblewald5 hours ago
i'd like to see more folks at the hague over the same. Less judgment isnt forthcoming over child murder and those who align with child killers. There is no justice, no rule of law, while those responsible walk with their head firmly attached to their shoulders.
Deliberatly luring AI into bombing kids? Anything other than admit AI should never play judge jury and executioner eh? Fucking rats.
- pylua5 hours ago
  I wish this weren’t the case but autonomous ai warfare is the future. We should accept that fact. Likely attribution for war crimes will be hard to pin down responsibility for.
  - yummypaint5 hours ago
    There was a time when it appeared nuclear war was the future of warfare. Thank goodness we refused accept that as fact.
  - Grimblewald4 hours ago
    It likely is the future, same as bombs once were, that doesnt mean we allow people to go about clusterbombing residential neighbourhoods you know? If you cannot predict the inpact, if you cannot minimize collateral damage reliably, then it isnt tech that is ready for the front lines. There's a reason we ban biological warefar, even though its even more effective than AI driven weapons. So, what the fuck? Why are we deciding this isn't worth regulating?
    The more of this shit i see, the gross incompetence, the total lack of reverence for human life, the more I see a butlerian jihad as the only viable option.
    A tool is a tool, and abuse of a tool, intentional or by gross incompetance should not earn a free pass because the tech is new.
    We need to hold people accountable for their action/inaction.
  - cbeach5 hours ago
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    papua_is_being_4 hours ago
    > Our opponents are countries like Iran, who think nothing of butchering tens of thousands of their own citizens for protesting against the Islamic regime.
    Freeport McMoran is supporting the butchering of 500,000 indigenous West Papuans so that they can extract gold, copper, etc from the Grasberg mine. Cargill and Monsanto are helping the ecocidal clearing of millions of hectares of virgin West Papuan rainforest. The flag all of them fly is red, white, and blue.
    They gleefully help butcher millions of people so that they can get the resources for a few dimes less. I can assure you that is no "accidental tragedy". You have a word for it already. You call us collateral damage.
    netsharc5 hours ago
    Ah yeah, the 'Free World" is more civilized than those barbarians, because when we bomb schools, we...?
    It's pathetic that plenty of people think the answer to barbarism is to be as barbaric (but with justification). For example responding to a day of terror with years of genocide. I suppose it's "fine" to do that, but only if you stop pretending you're more civilized than your opponents.
    Jon Stewart's response to 9/11 was something along the lines of "I want revenge, I think we should bomb them to pieces.. that's why I shouldn't be the one in charge of our response".
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KoftaBob4 hours ago
It's an insult to all of our intelligence that guys like Joe Lonsdale + Alex Karp think we won't make the connection that they say just happen to be Zionists and then say horseshit like this. We know they value the lives of their in-group at 1000x more than everyone else, they don't even try to hide it anymore.