The Copilot+ PC brand is dead(www.windowscentral.com)
48 pointsby bj-rn5 hours ago9 comments
  • glimshe3 hours ago
    This is the first time a corporation has spoiled a word for me.

    "Copilot" is a term like any other and when I first heard the name, I thought it was an alright, if uninspired, choice.

    Now I can't hear the word "Copilot" used in any context without having negative feelings due to Microsoft's saturation campaign.

    Speaking of this, I also wonder about present and future people named "Claude", a mainstream name in some parts of the world.

    • ternaryoperator2 hours ago
      This happens all the time. Mercedes is a fairly common first name for girls in Spanish countries. Then, of course Alexa, etc.
      • glimshean hour ago
        Fair enough, although nobody thinks Mercedes cars will possibly replace/destroy humanity.
    • bdcravens41 minutes ago
      "crypto"
    • throwaway274482 hours ago
      How often were you using copilot before hand?
      • esrauch2 hours ago
        More often than I was using the words Gemini, Claude or Alexa.
    • torben-friis3 hours ago
      Happens frequently. I can't hear tremendous anymore. Just considering ai I'm fed up with load bearing, wrinkle, catch...

      It got to the point where I feel irrationally hostile to a message when it claims I'm right :).

      • dgellow2 hours ago
        Even just the term AI is now so cancerous!

        A bit unrelated to that thread but I love that clip from a debate where John McCarthy interjects: https://youtu.be/pyU9pm1hmYs?t=152

        “Excuse me. I invented the term artificial intelligence. I invented it because we had to do something when we were trying to get money for a summer study in 1956, and I had a previous bad experience”

        (The whole debate is interesting, I would recommend if you like that type of historical things)

      • api2 hours ago
        Hey now, I love Claudish! That's my honest load bearing assessment that I'd like to flag.
    • tostian hour ago
      Really? A word?!
  • drooopy36 minutes ago
    For something to be considered dead, it must have been alive in the first place, which was never the case with the Copilot PC brand.
  • throwa3562622 hours ago
    The sad part of this is that all those powerful NPUs are basically paperweight.

    35-50 low power TOPS taking 1/5 of the die area and not being used by anyone...

    • bfrog2 hours ago
      These things are a waste of sand.

      Could’ve added more gpu or cpu or cache and people would’ve been happier.

      • Cyan4882 hours ago
        When these came out, I thought, what is the average PC user going to get out of this? Faster image touchups, and...? You can't run an LLM chatbot of any comparison to free cloud models.

        Oh yeah, and Recall. That worked out well.

        • bfrog27 minutes ago
          Yep… massive waste. A dsp coprocessor hobbled by npu workflows.
        • ihswan hour ago
          [dead]
    • samrus2 hours ago
      We cantnrun local models on them? They must have some sort of api exposed right? Qualcomm has the Snapdragon Neural Processing Engine iirc
      • solarkraftan hour ago
        You can do cool experiments with them. But nothing a typical consumer is likely to care about.
  • donmcronald20 minutes ago
    The problem with CoPilot+ is that it was negative value on a PC because of the way Microsoft entrenched the related (system) services into Windows. I got a mid range laptop (Core Ultra 7, 16GB RAM, integrate Arc GPU) that I would consider ideal in terms of build quality, specs, etc..

    That is until Microsoft’s bloatware starts using a ton of RAM and CPU. Something like 10% CPU use doesn’t sound like a lot, but it’s massive on a laptop because it destroys the battery life. And all it’s doing is running things I don’t want that consume RAM. I’m talking 16GB of RAM 50% used up by Microsoft bloatware.

    Microsoft doesn’t think, or care, about PC users anymore. Everything they’re doing with Windows makes your PC consume more resources with the goal of trapping you into another pay forever service.

    They didn’t even make the CoPilot+ stuff “not suck” before abandoning it. Now it’s just another crappy Windows service gunking up your PC. Vendors should have never agreed to it and IMO the degradation it causes is enough that most of the PCs with it fall into the range of false advertising. I can’t imagine anyone’s battery claims are taking the CoPilot+ trash in Windows into account.

  • rdtsc29 minutes ago
    > the purpose for Copilot+ PCs was to be able to deliver [NPU] experiences

    Maybe for developers. Not sure ordinary consumers looking for a new tablet or laptop will be asking for “NPU experiences”

  • vrighter24 minutes ago
    so can we actually remap that useless coilot button that replaced the useful menu key?
  • stefan_an hour ago
    We laugh at Google being deadly behind with Gemini but is there a place that has fumbled it like Microsoft? I guess Apple comes close, but with them you get the feeling they were never in it to begin with.
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