29 pointsby layer82 hours ago12 comments
  • wewewedxfgdfan hour ago
    I find it very hard to understand the things these AI CEO's say.

    He will probably get up there and say his companies products will destroy every citizen of their countries.

    • howunfortunate10 minutes ago
      People will say it's marketing but I find Occam's Razor highly favors the theory "they are true believers in AGI/ASI"

      This seems especially true for Anthropic employees.

    • laxd42 minutes ago
      Shocking publicity is good publicity. And "my product is so potent it will probably destroy you." I think I´ve heard it from drug dealers as well.
  • einarfdan hour ago
    He will probably tell them exactly what they want him to say. If he means it or not. That is hard to say.
    • 40 minutes ago
      undefined
    • mlnj27 minutes ago
      When has anyone faced scrutiny over their lies to these politicians?
  • ks2048an hour ago
    The founder of Loopt is now ruling the world.
    • clochean hour ago
      The guy had a failed startup and somehow leveraged that into the situation today.
      • IncreasePosts29 minutes ago
        I imagine his time at ycombinator as Gríma Wormtongue whispering into theoden's(paulg's) ear
  • bogzzan hour ago
    The LARP proceeds unabated.
  • edoceoan hour ago
    If governments regulate AI and make it slow down, does that let one get out of data center contracts?
    • dgellow37 minutes ago
      If OpenAI voids its spending commitment, the bubble has to pop. I know the market is irrational, but that would be the clearest top signal ever
  • plucan hour ago
    How's AI doing in Russia with all the sanctions and whatnot?
    • ACCount3928 minutes ago
      The AI industry in Russia is not doing well. Domestic AI models exist, but they aren't exactly high performers, and many of them are based on the open weight Chinese models - so there is very little reason to use them. IT power users run Western or Chinese models, often through proxies, VPNs or resellers.

      AI is being adopted and used, but if there was ever a chance of Russia being an AI power, it died in 2022.

      A few formerly-Russian IT companies had their "rainy day" HQs overseas, and leveraged them to slip the noose and leave Russia - brain draining what AI expertise was available in the country. See: Yandex -> Nebius.

    • free_bipan hour ago
      They have access to all the same open models that the rest of the world does, so just fine I would think.
      • dgellow39 minutes ago
        They also access American models via proxies. Same as China
      • 41 minutes ago
        undefined
  • wg0an hour ago
    The private equity debt time bomb is here. Then there is the bond market.

    And then guaranteed bust of AI bubble. 2000 billion dollars for a single company? That too when bottom of the boat has been drilled by open weight Chinese models that are cheaper and good enough but can even be deployed locally?

    In face of all that - that kind of return is not realistic.

    However - good gimmick scaring UN asking for a ban on Chinese models perhaps.

    • tracerbulletxan hour ago
      The UN is not a body that would be involved in banning models from a specific country, and even if they were China is one of 5 members with permanent veto power.
    • api37 minutes ago
      Only way to justify those valuation is if they can achieve regulatory capture and outlaw competitors and open models.

      Expect the fear mongering to escalate to a fever pitch.

      The UN has no authority to ban anything but it's a good platform.

  • newsclues12 minutes ago
    hope he wear two collared shirts.
  • osiris97024 minutes ago
    Are we still pretending models aren't cyber capable, and will be an immense force for hacking? I expected this shit on reddit not here. You don't have to like Sam, and still not do this bullshit
    • bogzz20 minutes ago
      The fearmongering is based in the notion that the LessWrong fanfic is coming true as we speak, not LLMs being used as tools for hacking.
      • arctic-true4 minutes ago
        Unfortunately focusing on the fanfic prevents everyone from focusing on the genuinely world-altering threat of cybersecurity becoming completely impossible for a while. But perhaps that’s the point, because you can be held liable for that, but not for the end of the world as there wouldn’t be any courts afterward.
  • ahartmetzan hour ago
    A great marketing opportunity for Grifty McGriftface.
    • verdverman hour ago
      A friend him called Uncle Sam Alternative-man, thought it was accurate and clever
  • cpcabbge30 minutes ago
    Why these bug eyed salamanders have any say at all for any of this is beyond me. He's a tech ceo who wants to make money, nothing more.
    • nba456_22 minutes ago
      I thought you meant the UN at first and was about to agree. They should have no say about US tech.
    • dyauspitr19 minutes ago
      He’s rich, in charge of a pretty significant company that has made history and continues to do so.
    • hfc5621 minutes ago
      Who do you think designed central banks?

      Bankers or politicians or the plebs?

      These kind of meetings are to create common vocabulary/seed common frameworks across the world for problems all govts are seeing or expecting on the horizon.

  • jstummbillig10 minutes ago
    HN would be better if it did not produce disparaging comments in every thread that has Sam Altman on it.

    I get it. We dislike Sam. I got it 3? 4? years ago. Would be nice and more interesting if we could see past that at some point, given that he is a fairly important figure, doing important things, that would be cool to share interesting thoughts about.

    • 9 minutes ago
      undefined