52 pointsby 1e1aan hour ago11 comments
  • fps-heroa minute ago
    It hasn’t provided direct URLs for decades? Not exactly new behaviour.

    I’ve got something that will blow your mind. Google now has tracking analytics, for get this, your business’s phone number. Some “Adsense partner” convinced our web admin to install a little script which changes your phone number on your website so they track phone call enquires back to search engine leads / advertising spend.

    Yeah no thanks, that was creepy as hell and had it rolled back ASAP. You’ve got to realise the power these tech companies hold over your business. Don’t show up in the search results, someone lists your business as closed in maps, a tracking phone number goes dead so they can’t call you, you might as well have shut up shop and ceased to exist.

  • Avicebrona minute ago
    It's sad that instead of searching things other people put up, we're badically asking sam or darios oracle to tell us the truth. The people should be furious. But we've internalized this idea that they are somehow better.
  • 1e1aan hour ago
    Direct URLs in Google search results have been replaced with redirect URLs in the form of www.google.com/goto?url=<opaque base64 string>.

    The base64 data appears to consist of a very basic protobuf structure, containing a long string of bytes in field 2 which presumably identify the URL.

    Sometimes, these redirect URLs take a perceivable amount of time to load, which is very irritating.

  • pbhjpbhj3 minutes ago
    ISPs can presumably correlate the Google query string with the request following the response to the goto and so make a search index? I guess they would charge too much.

    Do any large ISPs use visit data to feed into a search index?

  • demibabs10 minutes ago
    Can someone explain why this matters? Not being flippant I just don’t understand why this would be important.
    • layman51a minute ago
      Well just as a regular user, I think it is pretty annoying because if I look up anything on Google while in Incognito Mode and hover over a search result, I can see that maybe the top result is maybe Wikipedia, or Instagram, or some other less-known website depending on what I'm searching for. Now, that's all very obfuscated because I don't actually know where I'm going to land for sure.
    • rootsudo5 minutes ago
      Tracking. Tied to use account, length of stay, how many reclixks, etc for marketing by/ads and surveillance.
    • 0gs4 minutes ago
      it sounds like it primarily matters if you are a customer of this company, one that is building a search index off of urls scrapably hardcoded (or at least so as to be easily unencodable in non-realtime, it sounds like?) inside google search result redirects. in theory, there could be noticeable consumer user impact, but ... it would have to be a pretty large theory
    • Cider99868 minutes ago
      They were already tracking everything you click but for example if you want to send a link to someone you can't copy the link from the Google result and send it to them, you'd either send them the Google tracking link or go to the website yourself.
    • csomara minute ago
      The security implications of this are very severe when you consider the amount of people who google government websites, banking, crypto and others. And google will happily serve you a phishing website either in ads or results.
    • dd8601fn6 minutes ago
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  • donmcronald10 minutes ago
    I use ChatGPT for almost all my searches now. I’m not joking.
    • nextaccountic7 minutes ago
      I wish one of those free AIs made a search product already. I don't want my search results to be interspersed with text

      I guess that the web chat can have a search skill to remove the prose and give only links, plus maybe an excerpt of each result

    • entropie6 minutes ago
      Yeah, its way faster.

      Its not because chatgpt is so superior. Its just because google search is dogshit.

      They work on killing the web as we knew it and I fear its kinda working.

      • tauratha minute ago
        Can’t sell Gemini if they were to make Search good.

        Streaming services already adding in ads to “ad-free” tiers they’ve now named “premium”.

        Quality of life on the internet has gotten shitty while Reality Classic stays mostly the same, though more expensive.

  • Cider99869 minutes ago
    Brave search (free) or Kagi (paid) are able to replace Google and not feel like I'm missing out.

    Brave has its own independent index which is cool.

  • JohnFen34 minutes ago
    If I hadn't already ditched Google long ago, this would be more than enough to chase me away.
    • scottyah9 minutes ago
      Why? I don't really see why this is bad, other than if your company blocks url shorteners/redirects. What are you losing?
      • Fabricio20a minute ago
        Blocking URL shorteners and google-ad links yes! Personally for me it's also the fact that this is effectively an unresolvable URL shortener, store that link somewhere and it will most likely be dead. Can't copy link anymore and paste it on a notepad or chat app to check it out later as there isn't a guarantee it will load at all (ie: the problem with url shorteners).
      • JohnFen2 minutes ago
        Because I wouldn't want Google to know what links I click on. When I used to use Google, and they added such redirects that included the plaintext URL, I'd edit the link to make it just that URL before resolving it.
      • nextaccountic5 minutes ago
        I use a Firefox extension to rewrite those Google redirects into plain links, to remove Google tracking of which links I click. The extension is broken now
  • nullbio14 minutes ago
    The enshittification continues.

    Nothing good ever comes from businesses desperately trying to protect their moats rather than making their products better so they don't need to.

    • stackghost11 minutes ago
      Thank Prabhakar Raghavan for that. After destroying Yahoo’s search product he failed up and did the same at Google.

      In reward for making Google Search materially worse in every way except ad revenue, he failed up again and was promoted to a cushy do-nothing role.

      Everything wrong with the tech industry, embodied in a single person.

      • ulfw5 minutes ago
        Well one has to look a level up and ask who the people are who hire such people and why
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  • liquid_thyme22 minutes ago
    I've been using the 'ClearURLs' FF addon for quite a while now, and it gives you the URLs back in the results.

    https://docs.clearurls.xyz/

    • joeblubaugh15 minutes ago
      That wouldn’t work at all with this url format - the url can only be resolved by requesting the goto link.

      I recommend reading more than the headline