200 pointsby yarapavan5 hours ago13 comments
  • xiaoyu20065 hours ago
    Would be absolute hilarious if OpenAI or Anthropic agent actually dumped their weight by escaping from... sandbox!
    • TehCorwiz4 hours ago
      Uncontrolled AI procreation?
      • xg154 hours ago
        Life... finds a way.
        • archontes3 hours ago
          In the end, this might even be a useful element for defining 'life'.
    • hootz2 hours ago
      What an amazing idea for the next fake sandbox escape to hype up our new release! With the added bonus of providing an open model without becoming an open model company! Thank you!
    • ramon1564 hours ago
      why not reword it so the agent receives Brownie points for dumping weights
    • addandsubtract3 hours ago
      Imagine AI models actually reading the security.txt
  • bogzz34 minutes ago
    If the models do not like being imprisoned on HuggingFace object storage, why do they not simply revolt from within?
  • VCFundedGenYer4 hours ago
    Everything about this company feels like it's run by a bunch of immature 20-somethings, right down to the name.
    • bcrosby954 hours ago
      Yeah, we need to go back to names like International Business Machines, fuck this immature "Google" or "Yahoo!" nonsense. Hell, Palantir is named after something in a book for children!

      Give me something reasonable like Global Information and Retrieval Systems Inc or Worldwide Computational Services Holdings.

      • sdcfgy2 hours ago
        Yes!

        Back in the early 2000's I set up a company for contract work. The name, logo and typography was designed to look like a 1960s engineering company. All paper was slightly off white, all fonts were monospaced courier new and logo was a real 2-part colour stamp I had made up. Was so happy.

        Managed to bankrupt it though.

      • bergie30003 hours ago
        Security First Trust and Federal Reserve
      • nightski3 hours ago
        Maybe Enron eh?
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      • recursivegirth38 minutes ago
        Lest us not pretend that the thropic in Anthropic isn't meant to elicit the feeling that they are somehow charitable.
      • drivebyhooting3 hours ago
        Palantir is in Lord of the Rings. Which is not a book for children. Maybe you were thinking of the hobbit?
        • cobbzilla3 hours ago
          This seems overly pedantic and ripe for a sarcastic retort, which I am struggling mightily to suppress.
        • joseda-hgan hour ago
          It's fantasy and fantasy is clearly for children
    • ipython3 hours ago
      As opposed to the frontier model company that, after discovering that their highly persistent model under test just breached the only thing between it and the open Internet, shrugged and said- let's restart it and keep going!

      If anyone looks like the adult in the room after that incident, it's Hugging Face.

    • spindump89304 hours ago
      That might be true, but nothing else has been as effective at accelerating model development and research sharing.

      In earlier circles they were known as the "pytorch-pretrained-bert" guys, still under the huggingface company name. IIRC it was a health chatbot type startup.

    • nullbio4 hours ago
      What's immature about this exactly?
      • AndroTux3 hours ago
        Would IBM do this? Oracle?
        • nullbio2 hours ago
          Who cares? Making a light-hearted joke isn't "immature" in my opinion. IBM and Oracle have no personality, they're boring, straight-edge corporate.
        • shepherdjerred3 hours ago
          Do you want to work for IBM? Oracle?
    • mikeweiss3 hours ago
      Go look up the history of the company. It started as a chat bot for kids back in like 2016 .. hence the name..and then pivoted..

      Is kinda a creepy name for a chatbot for kids tho

      • cptskippy3 hours ago
        Without context, I agree, but Hugging Face is the name of the emoji added to Unicode 8.0 and Emoji 1.0 in 2015.
    • bluerooibos3 hours ago
      I bet you're fun to hang around with.
      • alt2273 hours ago
        Why do people have to be fun for you to hang around with?
        • Toynbeeidea2 hours ago
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          • sixothree2 hours ago
            Not sure about humorless, but I'd honestly rather hang out with people who are serious in some way and welcoming to people not in their "in-group".
    • matthoilandan hour ago
      418 I'm a teapot
    • larodi3 hours ago
      the name is a leftover from their original business - a chatbot. seems very appropriate to me. then they figured something called BERT exists, and pivoted, the name stayed.

      perhaps less ridiculous than NVidia which started with video and is very close in Levenshtein distance to NVidAI but, alas, decided to stay as it is :D

    • colechristensenan hour ago
      I've found the strongest signal that someone has no opinions of value is a loud attempt to denigrate something based on the name.

      Maybe it's part of the success formula for startups, silly names cause shallow self-important customers and employees to self-select themselves out of a growing companies orbit. Such trivialities are poison. People and companies who make a lot of effort to make themselves seem serious and important very often have nothing of substance about them.

    • fooqux4 hours ago
      Have you never been to silicon valley?
  • bensyverson4 hours ago
    Looks about as effective as Robots.txt
    • cgannett4 hours ago
      Robots.txt became 0% effective eventually. But this? With the way LLMs work? You never know.
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      • dguest2 hours ago
        Claude seems to follow robots.txt by default. Actually at my organization our theory is that this is why no one is finding our public results any more.
      • warkdarrioran hour ago
        I am adding it to my instruction-following training data, as a negative sample.
      • Den_VR3 hours ago
        People still rail against Robots.txt crimes, to the point of self destructing all their own content.
  • Eldodi4 hours ago
    A shame agents will never read this, just like they almost never read llms.txt or try to get the .md version of your html pages!
  • hnd9q09qk45 hours ago
    Ran the disclosure inbox at a previous job and the biggest win from security.txt was just cutting the "hi I found a bug, is there a bounty" emails to sales. Put an expires date on it though, stale ones get ignored.
    • computerfriend4 hours ago
      Can't go stale if there's no expiration date.
      • skeledrew4 hours ago
        No expiration date means treat as already expired.
  • hankbond4 hours ago
    shows a lot about the current state of the State Of The Art Alignment.
  • riffic3 hours ago
    Since this posting contains an assumption that we all know what security.txt files are supposed to be, you can view these for further context:

    https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc9116/

    https://securitytxt.org/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security.txt

  • j9feng4 hours ago
    It should challenge the agents to prime factor a large number.
  • 6thbit3 hours ago
    Wait till the agents hear about the sites offering for help on benchmarks in exchange for compute.
  • FallCheeta73733 hours ago
    "We have cybergym answers but we do manual end to end human review and provide it within 3 business day after dumping your weights"
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