43 pointsby cdnsteve5 hours ago5 comments
  • captainregex32 minutes ago
    my personal experience with swe has been…suboptimal. I am not sure how much I buy these benchmarks and it has a very “just blurt it out even if it’s probably not right” style but hey it’s free.
  • forgot-my-pw3 hours ago
    Terminal Bench 2/2.1 appears to be almost solved, so we probably shouldn't look too hard on that? Their Terminal Bench 4 score is soso.

    Still quite impressive though.

  • ChrisArchitect3 hours ago
    Related:

    Cognition launches new SWE-2 model

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49645443

  • varispeed4 hours ago
    These tests are pointless when often models get nerfed few days after release. Astra today is way dumber than just few days ago.
    • kzrdude3 hours ago
      Is that something we have credible evidence for? Do they serve a better model when artificialanalysis (the benchmark site) is making the requests, and so on?
      • varispeed3 hours ago
        It is my own anectodal. Few days something I worked on usually got one shotted or got quality result. Today it is very much going nowhere and is stuck in reasoning loops.

        Probably someone should build nerf tracker, because this is quite common that models get substantially worse once PR hype wears off and they quantise them more or simply route requests to older models with system prompt changed to say it is Astra and not Sol etc.

    • cbg03 hours ago
      Not Astra but Sol hasn't been nerfed: https://marginlab.ai/trackers/codex/
      • varispeed3 hours ago
        That is not conclusive, because they can detect such tracker and route it through proper not quantised model.
    • d_tr3 hours ago
      How and why do they get nerfed? To save money?
      • johnfn2 hours ago
        Models do not get nerfed. There has never been evidence of this. This would be trivial to prove if it were true, and such a proof would be a huge story and scandal to a news market hungry for a shred of a signal on AI's downfall.

        This is the "your iPhone is listening to you and serving ads based on what you say" of the 2020s.

        • 4chandaily2 hours ago
          > This is the "your iPhone is listening to you and serving ads based on what you say" of the 2020s

          Of course, it turned out that this wasn't actually completely BS. We just were accusing the wrong vendor. Not disagreeing with you on models.

          • johnfn5 minutes ago
            I'd be happy to read a source as I am fairly confident that audio transcription -> facebook (or other) ads has never been true.
        • esafak2 hours ago
          Yes, they can, through quantization. Many providers of open source models openly serve quantized versions; check openrouter.
      • ricardobeatan hour ago
        One theory is that they start serving at full precision, then quantize to save on costs as adoption grows. It's kind of a conspiracy theory atm, but I have definitely felt it - I had a large project done on Opus 4.8 release day, a week later it was struggling to complete partial tasks in the same area.
      • varispeed3 hours ago
        Yes. They save on compute and customer has to use more tokens to achieve their goal which means more profit.
  • walrus013 hours ago
    Not really news, terminal bench 4 is the new metric. It's only a few points ahead in terminal bench 4 of some open weight models you can run on a 256GB system.
    • ricardobeatan hour ago
      "Not really news" that a model from a smaller lab can beat weeks-old Fable 5.1 at 70% lower cost? What a time to be living in.
      • p1eskan hour ago
        It’s very far from Fable on benchmarks that matter, like TB4.
      • walrus01an hour ago
        no, I mean not really news specifically on the number for terminal bench 2.