20 pointsby marvinborner2 hours ago2 comments
  • dinozarwan hour ago
    DeVault forgot to include himself on that list.
    • micromacrofoot42 minutes ago
      why not educate us
      • JuniperMesos28 minutes ago
        Drew DeVault has weird public politics, as evidenced by among other things putting this website together, which is taking a set of public political stances; he has some amount of social influence, and he's involved in free and open source software. He certainly deserves to be thought of as a weird little guy of FOSS in a pejorative sense.
      • ta890325 minutes ago
        Found this in an older upload of the same URL https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41837782

        He does seem kinda hateful in general, the list seems to have a pretty low threshold to have someone on there. Vincent Canfield just seems to be there for being a "free speech absolutist," and many others are there for vaguely right wing beliefs. Guillermo Rauch looks pretty pathetic knowing that he reposts Musk's tweets, but is that something you would put someone on a list for?

        And I don't understand what this line is supposed to mean

        >[Eron Wolf] doesn’t like the Open Source Definition[source] and cites other weird little guys like Bryan Lunduke and Eric S. Raymond to make his case

  • voidUpdatean hour ago
    Disappointed to learn about Geerling and Rossman... Why do some people just seem to want to hate others for stuff they can't control?
    • roryirvine27 minutes ago
      Yeah, I came across Geerling 10-12 years ago when he was big in the Ansible community and he seemed pretty reasonable then.

      In his defence, those blog posts are ancient and he'd have been pretty young when they were written. But against that, they go beyond being merely cringey and lacking in self awareness; they're actually pretty vile.

      In the comments on https://web.archive.org/web/20250113010304/https://www.jeffg... he partially acknowledged that they're not "culturally appropriate", but then claimed he hadn't actually re-read the blog post in question which is, at best, rather slopey-shouldered (it would have taken less time to re-read than to comment!)

      Such a transparent avoidance of responsibility actually makes him seem worse than if he'd said nothing at all.

    • JuniperMesos32 minutes ago
      They don't hate others for stuff they can't control; they have moral or conceptual views that differ from progressive orthodoxy, and progressives are claiming that holding these moral and conceptual views constitutes hating others for stuff they don't control, because hating others for stuff they don't control superficially sounds like a good justification for socially ostracizing someone. Geerling's views on abortion are a religious scruple, and I don't have particularly more of a problem with them than I have with, for instance, the specifics of what any individual Muslim in the world professes to believe. I don't necessarily agree with Rossman's ontology of gender, but I don't necessarily agree with the ontology of gender held by any particular trans or genderqueer person either; and I think I have much less reason to fear social punishment over this disagreement from Rossman than I do from the average genderqueer person in my community.