26 pointsby geox2 hours ago6 comments
  • gniv7 minutes ago
    It's interesting that diesel is taxed more than gas in the US. It's the other way around in France.
    • altcognitoa few seconds ago
      The diesel/gas relationship is inverted between the countries, so it actually makes a lot of sense (though not perfectly as both countries use diesel for freight)
    • retireda minute ago
      It’s largely historical. France heavily encouraged diesel cars for decades, so there’s now a huge installed base. Once you’ve done that, you can’t suddenly jack up diesel taxes without making a lot of people very angry (and probably setting a few cars on fire).
  • moeadham5 minutes ago
    Art of the deal.
  • Brendinooo5 minutes ago
    Ah yes, right around the time when I buy my heating oil for the winter...
    • stn81884 minutes ago
      I just checked prices this morning and realized the huge jump...
  • dzongaan hour ago
    most goods in the US today are transported via trucks. most of the whole main-street runs on diesel as well think home services businesses etc.

    cost of diesel has a reverb effect across the whole economy.

    the shrinkage is felt but won't be truly reflected in the economy. so the government can keep lying about the numbers.

  • thelastgallon44 minutes ago
    Diesel should cost a lot more, almost all of the road damage is by heavy trucks. Trucking is being subsidized by all of us.
    • sokoloff22 minutes ago
      And the advantages are being enjoyed by all of us, at least in the US.

      If you’re the kind of person who eats food, uses toilet paper and paper towels, and lives inside a building made of lumber, insulation, HVAC, pipes, and electrical components, those all got to your point of use on a truck.

      • thelastgallona minute ago
        Businesses will have an incentive to transport goods efficiently, if the costs are not subsidized by consumers.
      • bryanlarsen14 minutes ago
        The US has a really good freight train network. Yet there's a good chance the products you discussed didn't use the much more efficient train for the long distance portion of their transit.
        • gryfft6 minutes ago
          If it's more efficient, is that not an arbitrage opportunity?
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      • lotsofpulpa few seconds ago
        Why does that matter? If you consume more toilet paper and paper towels and lumber, insulation, HVAC, pipes, and electrical components, then you would end up with the proportional cost.
      • toynbee_cunt5 minutes ago
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    • saejox9 minutes ago
      there are two sides of this argument.

      only way we are able to eat affordable food is because some diesel truck is transporting it.

      so maybe we must subsidize diesel fuel, to decrease grocery prices?

  • robin_reala2 hours ago
    $5.85 a US gallon? Horrendous, you’re up to 70% of what diesel costs in Sweden today.[1]

    [1] https://bensinpriskollen.se/dieselpris/

    • stockresearcheran hour ago
      A large component of the price of fuel is taxes, which are then used for roadway construction and maintenance.

      Here in the US (and probably Sweden too), those taxes are not sufficient to pay all of the roadway costs, so tax money from general funds - income taxes, sales/use/vat(?), etc - get diverted to help cover costs.

      In reality, the overall cost of fuel is probably very similar. It’s just that the overall cost is more directly reflected in the price shown at the fuel station in Sweden than in the US.

    • retired4 minutes ago
      €2.66 for diesel in The Netherlands.

      Which is double of the US price.

      Good thing the majority of The Netherlands does everything on a bicycle and doesn't need a car.

      It does hurt the transportation industry though. And agriculture, construction, heavy industries.

    • 7bit35 minutes ago
      So what? People in the US should not feel pressured by it, because you have it worse?
      • lyu072829 minutes ago
        But you are the core of the empire and now you are closing in on what your vassels have to pay for gas, doesn't that make you concerned as a good imperialist?
        • 7bita few seconds ago
          Bro what the heck are you talking about.
    • bsianan hour ago
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