39 pointsby backlit40343 hours ago11 comments
  • jadaran hour ago
    This seems like a very reasonable and thoughtful response. You have plenty of password manager options if it bothers you.
  • an hour ago
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  • toofyan hour ago
    thanks. i had no idea.

    apparently bitwarden can import data vaults super easily from 1passwd.

    guess i’ll be recommending clients to bitwarden from here.

    • SanjayMehta21 minutes ago
      I switched to bitwarden a couple of years ago when 1password locked down on their subscription model. I don't do subscriptions, I prefer paying for upgrades which I need.

      Importing was truly super easy, but bitwarden has some kind of latency issue compared to 1p on the same machine and the same browser. 1p was always a smooth and unobtrusive experience, you will be extremely aware of BW's presence.

  • gustavusan hour ago
    I care far far far more about technical excellence and capability when it comes to security critical pieces of software like 1Password and as long as they demonstrate they are capable then I could care less if the founder voted Rasputin and worships Morgoth.

    I don't care if the guy who made my hammer is a Pastifarian I care how well the hammer hammers, I don't care if my accountant likes to dress up as a skunk and go to conventions demanding people address him by Sir Reginald Stinkington as long as he does a good job at my taxes.

    In this case it seems the concern is that the company donated to an OS project that is headed by a guy whom you don't like.... That just seems like there are plenty of other problems to address in the world.

    • skeledrewan hour ago
      To push this further to the logical extreme, so you're saying that if the founder was to say they are using their profits to directly fund a group who's sole purpose is to wipe out a particular ethic group that they believe has no right to exist, you'll continue your support because the product is technically excellent?
    • cmdlian hour ago
      Would you care if your accountant liked to sit outside a high school and watch teenage girls with binoculars? What if a local shop owner was known to harass female employees? Everybody has a line somewhere.
    • mapontoseventhsan hour ago
      In a world where capital is the only vote that counts it makes sense to vote with your money. That said, everyone should read what DHH actually said rather than this blog post before you decide on this one in particular.

      On a liberal-ness scale from 1 to 10 I'm an 11, and even I can't imagine that many folks would read what DHH actually said and jump to the conclusions that these people did. This is not a Godwins law case... The dude just wants some homeless people to stop shitting in the bushes in public.

      Either some people have poor literacy skills, or they just want to be mad.

  • embedding-shapean hour ago
    The linked toot (?) (https://social.lol/@mcn/117204227884873406) puts things in a understandable way:

    > Most importantly my entire family uses it. You know how difficult it was to get them to use a password manager consistently. [...] I asked my parents whether they knew of linux or dhh and they do not. Most people dont. They will ask: why move if its working and no issue with the software itself. [...] Say I find a new one, am I suppose to research what their corporate policy is and who they support. Sorry, I have a life to live.

    It's just such an uphill battle to get anyone you care about to use a password manager, getting them to switch it out unless it stops working would probably be ever harder.

    • toofyan hour ago
      i’ve just looked, apparently it’s super easy and basically transparent to switch to bitwarden.

      it apparently imports the password vaults painlessly.

      i’ll check it out tonight and if it is that easy, it’ll be my new rec for people.

    • b40d-48b2-979ean hour ago
      It must be exhausting to be surrounded by vacuous people that don't care about what their money is going to support.
  • its-summertimean hour ago
    > Our contribution is made to the Omacom Foundation, not to an individual

    However, from DHH:

    > Before this can be an amazing system for everyone, it first has to be an amazing system for me, personally.

    By DHH's own words, all money currently is 100% spent on DHH's desires. That is a contribution to an individual.

    • gruezan hour ago
      So if some company donated to the Python Software Foundation during during Guidos rein as BDFL, would it be fair to characterize that as "That is a contribution to an individual"?
  • AlexandrB41 minutes ago
    > As I grow older, I am feeling the need to stand up and try to protect my values.

    I agree. I'm tired of repeated bad faith interpretations of anyone who shows even the slightest disagreement with the current political milieu. Opinions that were considered anodyne in 2010 are now "far right, "fascism", and "genocide". This whole approach is grossly undemocratic as it treats half the country as a problem to be solved or worked around. This is far more authoritarian than stuff supported by many of the supposed fascists.

  • copperxan hour ago
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    • VladVladikoffan hour ago
      >Hitler

      Huh? What did I miss?

      • sgarlandan hour ago
        DHH compared Romani people to wolves [0].

        I am so very, very tired of having to even consider, let alone make decisions about, the technical vs. political merits of products. It’d be so great if CEOs would keep their views to themselves.

        0: https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a

        • 27183an hour ago
          > It’d be so great if CEOs would keep their views to themselves.

          Would it, really? I personally appreciate it when they're so open, it gives me absolute certainty about two things:

          1. Whether I want to work for their company

          2. Whether I want to buy what they're selling

          This is extremely valuable information. If they were keeping that information hidden, it would be far more difficult to obtain answers to these questions. This way I don't even have to do any real work (job application, accepting an offer, moving, purchasing, etc) to find out.

          Sadly only the odious behaviors convey such certainty, the sneaky nice ones are who you have to watch out for.

      • kraken_cultan hour ago
        "anyone whose material circumstances are impacted by immigrants and voices that == literally hitler"
        • KennyBlankenan hour ago
          He's not "voicing being impacted by immigrants", he's advocated for removing anyone who isn't white from the UK.

          That is called ethnic cleansing, and yeah, comparisons to Hitler's "policies", especially during the early stages of his rise to power, are quite fair.

          • baggy_troughan hour ago
            > he's advocated for removing anyone who isn't white from the UK.

            Can you provide a quote that demonstrates this?

          • AlexandrBan hour ago
            I'm sorry, but you're not being honest. He both mentions specific problems that need to be addressed ("Cue the gypsies in Copenhagen, and their increasingly brazen behavior, after the city legalized overnight sleeping in parks and other green areas last year. Because "it shouldn't be illegal to be homeless", so the police refuses to act.") and links immigration policy to dealing with those who violate the law ("When gypsies take over public spaces, you deport them. This isn't hard, it isn't cruel. It's the basic logic of self-preservation."). Where is the racism? Is it just in the "noticing" that a lot of folks engaged in this activity come from the same communities?
        • AlexandrBan hour ago
          Unless you get "grandfathered in"[1].

          > Bernie Sanders: Open borders? No, that's a Koch brothers proposal.

          > Ezra Klein: Really?

          > Bernie Sanders:Of course. That's a right wing proposal which says essentially there is no United States.

          > Ezra Klein: But it would make ...

          > Bernie Sanders: Excuse me ...

          > Ezra Klein: It would make a lot of global poor richer, wouldn't it?

          > Bernie Sanders: It would make everybody in America poorer, you're doing away with the concept of a nation state and I don't think there's any country in the world which believes in that. If you believe in a nation state or in a country called the United States or UK or Denmark or any other country, you have an obligation in my view to do everything we can to help poor people. What right wing people in this country would love is an open border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for 2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don't believe in that.

          [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf-k6qOfXz0

  • backlava122 hours ago
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    • slipheenan hour ago
      Clearly this is something that was important to the person who posted it.

      I am not the OP, but I am somebody who decides what software we use org-wide in a company, and this sort of thing matters to me.

      • backlava12an hour ago
        Would you chose a product inferior to 1password if it better aligned with your politics?
        • tmpz22an hour ago
          I heard a wonderful quote the other day:

          > Politics is just another word for how we treat our neighbors.

          So yes, as I accept this definition - I may choose a "less efficient" tool if it treated my neighbor better.

          • dismalafan hour ago
            I've got a neighbour that throws garbage onto my balcony, how should I treat them?
          • backlava12an hour ago
            You would willingly and intentionally chose a less secure password manager and put your company at risk?

            Is your management chain aware of this? Which company do you work for? They have the right to know.

            • celsoazevedoan hour ago
              This doesn't concern me, but how do you go from "inferior product" to "less secure" and "let me contact your employer"?

              There are other secure password managers out there, including open-source alternatives, which can be considered to be inferior due to having fewer features or a worse UI.

              On a side note, while I'm sure some people only make decisions based on technical reasons, most don't. Not saying if it's right/wrong or better/worse, but that's how most humans work.

              • backlava1242 minutes ago
                No no no, you are dodging the question. My question could not have been more clear but you are trying to side step it: "You would willingly and intentionally chose a less secure password manager and put your company at risk?"? Yes or no?

                What company do you work for that is okay with that? To let your own personal politics compromise their security posture?

                • celsoazevedo28 minutes ago
                  Slow down mate, you're not replying to the same user :-)

                  You asked them the following:

                  > Would you chose a product inferior to 1password if it better aligned with your politics?

                  Nowhere in your question you mentioned security, but your conclusion was that they would pick a less secure option and that their employer should be made aware. Maybe not intentionally, but looks like you're trying to win the argument with some word twisting and a 'gotcha'? But maybe that's just my limited English.

                  Anyway, I'm just pointing out that "inferior" doesn't mean "less secure" and that most people don't only choose things based on technical merits alone (I'd be surprised if you did). With this clarified... I will now leave the thread. Have a nice day!

    • joaohaasan hour ago
      If you're implying 'being slightly racist' (if you even consider that possible) not being as offensive as it was in the past, sure.

      But the DHH posts linked in the original post are clearly beyond any kind of 'light'.

    • muppetmanan hour ago
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  • mapontoseventhsan hour ago
    For the curious. This is the thing everyone is mad about. [0]

    I'll leave it you to decide if advocating that your country deport the homeless people who are publicly defecating in the bushes makes you into actual Hitler (as he's been compared to even in this post).

    [0] https://world.hey.com/dhh/wolves-sheep-and-gypsies-ba44af6a

    • trescenzian hour ago
      Yea this was quite a post. There’s a lot of pointing at a post about immigration in England[1], and not that I agree, it wasn’t beyond the pale really. It was standard stuff. This piece is really over the top though and makes it very clear he sees those unlike him as subhuman.

      1: https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

      • mapontosevenths25 minutes ago
        I read it. I'm not sure I agree with your interpretation. I read it as pretty standard right-wing anti-immigration stuff. He even somewhat addresses it and tries to make it clear that he's not saying one race is better than another when he says:

        "There's absolutely nothing racist or xenophobic in saying that Denmark is primarily a country for the Danes, Britain primarily a united kingdom for the Brits, and Japan primarily a set of islands for the Japanese."

        I interpret him to be advocating for less immigration, and maybe some deportations of criminal types. He's allowed to.

        Personally, I disagree with him, but we're all adults. We're allowed to disagree and still respect each other. That's the basis of society.

        He's not advocating for violence and the hyperbole some people are coming up with is way overblown when compared to what he actually said.

        He is an average right-wing adult. Not some rabid fascist who wants death-camps.

    • dismalafan hour ago
      One thing that needs to be noted is that the comparison to wolves isn't entirely random, it's also a current topic of political discussion in Denmark.
      • mapontoseventhsan hour ago
        I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing?

        He's saying that he wants the homeless people who poop in the bushes deported because like wolves there are too many, and they're dangerous. People who poop in public are like that. It has very little to do with racism as far as I can tell.

        I'm as liberal as they come, but I draw the line at shrubbery-shitting.

        • KennyBlanken24 minutes ago
          > How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing?

          Because wolves are being used as a dogwhistle/proxy for "migrants" by the far right.

          Denmark has a problem with wolves crossing into Denmark. So the far right gives speeches about what a menace wolves are, they don't belong here, they don't deserve to be here, they're not FROM here" and so on - while doing a lot of theatrical smiling and winking, or just shifting right into talking about immigrants and migrants, "totally separately and unconnected, bro! I just wanted to talk about them both while i was here!"

          You might want to not take anything David Hamburger Helper says at face value given he perpetuates far-right conspiracies / racist tropes like "Pakistani rape gangs."

        • dismalafan hour ago
          > I have no idea what you're implying. How does the wolf comparison make this a racism thing?

          I was trying to reinforce it by saying the wolf comparison is a current public safety concern and has nothing to do with comparing Romani to actual animals.

          • mapontosevenths41 minutes ago
            I just didn't grasp what you meant, I thought you were saying there was some nuance to the local politics I missed. Thanks for clarifying.
    • KennyBlanken37 minutes ago
      That's just the latest. David Hamburger Helper is a lot more than just that, and he's been at this for years.

      https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thoug...

      https://tekin.co.uk/2025/09/the-ruby-community-has-a-dhh-pro...

      Jake's blog post points out how David Hamburger Helper is quite skilled at running right up to the line but not crossing it explicitly.

      His type is great at using weasel words and dog whistles. The kind of person who thinks he's clever for using hyperlinks in their blog posts to imply the shit they don't have the balls to say outright while going "tee hee I'm so clever for making every mention of Obama's name in my blog post a linking to the wikipedia article about bananas." (David Hamburger Helper didn't actually do this, it's an illustrative example.)

      In the US, conservatives pre-you-know-who would say things like "hard working Americans" (ie "not urban blacks on welfare taking public transit and using their food stamps to buy cigarettes and potato chips") or "American family values" (ie "not the gays") and so on.

  • BluSynan hour ago
    Merging tech and politics like this is insufferable, and most of us are tired of it.

    Omacom foundation is funding good open source dev work. I see nothing wrong with that, and their response was perfectly reasonable.

    If you think you can do better, start a competing foundation. Whinging about it just makes you lose all objectivity; now your opinions on actual technology are less relevant as your personal bias is on full display.