45 pointsby TheOnlyWayUp3 hours ago15 comments
  • Retr0id3 hours ago
    Can any brave soul wade through the LLM prose to provide a human-readable summary?
    • simonw2 hours ago
      "I uploaded 4.5 billion of those videos to Hugging Face" = I scraped the metadata (title, view count, etc) for 4.5 billion TikTok videos using the same API as their Android app. I posted the data to HF as Parquet. The video content itself is not included. I'll sell you my Go scraping code.
    • arcfour2 hours ago
      Man, I could use $699. If this gets even a single sale, then maybe I need to try having less decency...

      (I guess that is sort of a roundabout summary...)

      • echoangle2 hours ago
        Would you say that this is immoral? Since it’s data that’s public anyways, I don’t see why putting it in a table and selling it is a bad thing.
        • kenniskrag34 minutes ago
          Because a lot of things is public online and can't be copied and sold e.g. due to copyright, patents and trademark. Also if you access a website you are bound to a ToS contract and this is a breach of that contract.
          • echoangle32 minutes ago
            Breaching a contract isn’t a crime though, it’s a civil matter.
        • breezybottom2 hours ago
          What is "public" data? It admits to violating the ToS.
          • arcfour2 hours ago
            Something posted with the understanding that it could potentially be viewed by anyone on the Internet with minimal/no restriction.

            ToS are just what you follow if you don't want to get banned off of the site. If you don't care about that, then you can go hog wild, though you're being a bit of a jerk/not playing nice obviously.

            • breezybottom2 hours ago
              Any company could potentially be hacked, so by that standard all data is public. And no, the ToS is legally binding on the company as well.
              • echoanglean hour ago
                You don’t see a difference between accessing data by hacking a service (which is illegal) and downloading/scraping data that’s not protected? The TOS are a contract and only a civil thing afaik.
              • arcfour2 hours ago
                That's a blatant strawman - that's not a reasonable position at all. A reasonable person does not expect their private medical records to be accessible to you or me just because they are stored in an EHR system.

                They might be surprised that you or I looked at their TikTok video when we aren't the intended audience, but they still posted it publicly, with the understanding that it would be made freely available to others.

                • breezybottom2 hours ago
                  It's definitely not a strawman. Perhaps you meant that it's a false equivalency, but I don't think that's true either.

                  With how common data hacks are, why wouldn't a reasonable person expect their medical records to leak? I received at least two such breach notices just last year.

                  • arcfour2 hours ago
                    Obviously I meant that any data a person expects to be public, like a public post on a social media site... I was not referring to data exposed in data breaches, which is a different subject entirely...

                    If that was not obvious to you then I apologize; though it really should have been, since you are encouraged to interact with others in good faith on HN.

                    And if you expect your medical records to be public...then what is the point of this discussion?

                    • breezybottoman hour ago
                      The user only gave TikTok permission to use the videos according to the ToS. And considering the majority of TikTok users are children, I think it's hard to justify morally, even if you could make a legal case.
                      • arcfouran hour ago
                        A "data breach" refers to unauthorized access to nonpublic or protected data. Scraping content that is publicly viewable without logging in - or even with logging in, since an account is effectively disposable - is not a "data breach" (as far as any typical usage of the term goes).

                        In hiQ Labs v. LinkedIn, the 9th Circuit (US) ruled that scraping publicly accessible data does not violate the CFAA's "without authorization" clause (hiQ was bulk scraping public LinkedIn profile data - in violation of LinkedIn's ToS). The Supreme Court later specifically narrowed the CFAA in Van Buren v. United States saying "exceeds authorized access" applies to accessing areas of a system you aren't entitled to enter at all, not misusing access you legitimately have (regardless of ToS violations).

                        Other CFAA cases have ruled similarly - being legitimately granted access (i.e. signing up for an account, or browsing publicly without logging in, since the site is intended to be available to the public) and then misusing it is not "hacking".

                        So in the U.S., it's not a computer crime ("hacking"/"breach") to scrape data, and nobody uses the term "data breach" to refer to scraping publicly available data on a public site, except for apparently you.

                        • breezybottoman hour ago
                          You still haven't checked the ToS:

                          "use automated scripts to collect information from or otherwise interact with the Services" — this covers the entire scraping operation.

                          "make unauthorised copies, modify, adapt, translate, reverse engineer, disassemble, decompile or create any derivative works of the Services... or determine or attempt to determine any source code" — e.g. reverse-engineering the X-Argus/X-Gorgon/X-Ladon signing scheme.

                          "interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Services... or bypass any measures we may use to prevent or restrict access to the Services" — TLS-fingerprint spoofing, the empty-200 soft block, and the proxy IP rotation to get around rate limiting.

                          "use or attempt to use another's account, service or system without authorisation from TikTok, or create a false identity on the Services" — this covers the forged device registrations (fake Android handset + carrier profiles)

                          "use the Services, without our express written consent, for any commercial or unauthorized purpose" — the website is monetizing the dataset and selling the code itself.

                          • echoangle27 minutes ago
                            And who cares about ToS? That’s a purely civil thing, surely hacking (which is a crime) is worse than breaching a contract?
                          • edoceo34 minutes ago
                            Still not a hack or a breach. Still "public" data. Still a TOS violation. Your up-thread claim that potential hack is the same as public is still incorrect.
                      • echoanglean hour ago
                        Is it a data breach if I right click images in google search and save them to my disk?
                        • breezybottoman hour ago
                          A data breach could leak into search engine results, sure.
                          • echoangle28 minutes ago
                            I wasn’t asking if a data breach could be in the search results, I asked if saving search engine results in itself would be a data breach. Apparently you think that scraping publicly accessible data from tik tok is a data breach in itself, so does this apply in other cases too?
          • echoanglean hour ago
            I could get the same data in principle by downloading the app and accessing the post. There’s no hacking or circumventing access controls. That’s what I meant by public data.
        • arcfour2 hours ago
          No, I don't care at all, but I recognize that my morals might be lower than others here. To me it's just public data...whatever.

          My criticism was basically - this is trying to sell an AI slop project for $699 a pop - I could get this out of a few Claude Code sessions if I had the storage and network bandwidth to run such a scraper. The value proposition is questionable when the writing shows that the entire project was AI generated, and clearly Claude understands the way the TikTok Android app internal API works quite well...

          • arvid-lind2 hours ago
            The AI giants got where they are by pushing similar limits and setting aside moral (and legal) issues to be settled later in court, so the idea seems to fit the general zeitgeist we're living in. Not really criticism, just an observation.
    • 405error2 hours ago
      I cannot verify whether it is technically correct, but it's about how to defeat Tiktok's bot filters to scrape it.
  • moinism2 hours ago
    > Everything described here is a private Go repository. One-time payment, permanent access, complete source. > $699 one time · lifetime access

    Not open-source apparently.

    And I cant find the reddit post but I think I read that videos/assets are not actually pre-downloaded, they have to be requested through Tiktok API using the provided code. So if Tiktok patches, the code will need updates too.

    • nomilk2 hours ago
      I think the post is essentially a decent technical-explainer (value adding and interesting) in exchange for effectively a little product placement (selling either just the code or code already running on a server at additional cost)

      But I think this is the 289GB data (free): https://huggingface.co/datasets/kuben-developer/tiktok-video...

  • nomilk2 hours ago
    > Three things to notice, because each one bites later:

    Very LLMish language!

    • 405error2 hours ago
      It's that mix of dense, impressive sounding jargon, but even scanning across it raises glaring problems. Like, if you have 4.5 billion videos on HF, and it's 289GB, it's about 60 bytes per video. Checking the column fields as well, there doesn't seem to be any video files*.
      • nomilk2 hours ago
        There's an `is_video` column, perhaps containing a lot of 0's
        • 405error2 hours ago
          More directly, there simply aren't any video files uploaded. It's just parquet files, which contain no video columns (I'm not even sure if it supports it).
          • nomilk2 hours ago
            Seems the expectation is the purchaser uses the info/parameters in the 289gb file to decide which videos to download, then uses the /v1/video/info endpoint to download individual videos.
  • vachina2 hours ago
    The AI keeps mentioning how a HTTP 200 can silently pollute your dataset. Why not just check contents of body? Usually APIs follow strict JSON contract for successful queries, alert or throw an error when that changes.
    • 405error2 hours ago
      It's probably AI coded and hallucinated many things. That drumming up the importance of a minor thing is a real tell. Another hallucination - it hasn't found any video APIs (despite statements that it has and uploaded it). It has video metadata.
  • smallerize3 hours ago
    There's no way this dataset is going to survive on HF, right? It will be hit with so many DMCA takedowns.
    • simonw2 hours ago
      It's metadata only, not video content. I expect it will likely survive - that's a pretty common pattern for machine learning datasets.

      Stable Diffusion was enabled by LAION, for example. That was metadata about images and URLs to those images, but not the actual image files.

      • smallerize6 minutes ago
        True, but it includes the full text of the post. That's enough for some copyright strikes.
    • deviation3 hours ago
      My thoughts also
  • magicmicah853 hours ago
    >Is it legal? It is against TikTok's terms of service. It is sold for research and educational use.

    Oh, ok. Otherwise, very detailed deconstruction to scrape their API. Lots of layers of registration and creating a request that looks like it is valid client.

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  • ckugblenu3 hours ago
    This is being posted all over the place. on multiple subreddits and stuff. Why?
    • vachina2 hours ago
      Ads for an exploit
      • Retr0id2 hours ago
        Replicating client behaviour is hardly an exploit.
  • VCFundedGenYer28 minutes ago
    Textbook example of what not to post on the internet. Unreadable incoherent LLM hallucination slop.
  • pr337h4m3 hours ago
    There aren't any actual videos in the dataset though.
  • VulgarExigency2 hours ago
    Absolutely no consideration for the people who, when posting things to Tiktok, would prefer for them not to get scraped.
  • raver19752 hours ago
    That data does not belong to the public. Why do you think it is OK to steal from TikTok?
    • theplumber2 hours ago
      Is this sarcasm on AI companies?
  • gdevenyi3 hours ago
    Like gazing into hell
    • VulgarExigency2 hours ago
      In 2026, everything we say, see or do on the internet is just another data point for some unscrupulous bastard to seek profit from.
      • igor_nast2 hours ago
        That's not true. I build an agentic IDE - indie dev tool. And it's for free and stays like it. I do it because I enjoy coding and the technology :)

        https://shikigami.dev - more details here

  • igor_nast3 hours ago
    Is this even useful in any way?
    • smallerizean hour ago
      Make your own recommendation engine. Even if it's just a real literal text search that sorts chronologically.
    • tweakimpan hour ago
      You could use it as negative reinforcement to tell the next big AI model what it should not do
    • theplumberan hour ago
      Yes, train your model to give people more AI slop until they get sick of it
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