Saab Enters Collaborative Combat Aircraft Race with High-End Concept(aviationweek.com)
55 pointsby rbanffy2 hours ago6 comments
  • ecshafer33 minutes ago
    The goal of concept to aircraft in 36 months is admirable. Anduril recently built a jet in a similar timeframe. In the US at least, the last 30 years after defense industry consolidation has caused great stagnation. The F-35 took over a decade and went monstrously over budget, more as a jobs program than as a functional product. Competition showing they can build a jet faster and cheaper is what we need to kick the DoD into gear with the large contractors.
    • wbl27 minutes ago
      The DoD changing its mind several times did not do the F-35 project any favors
  • gnatmanan hour ago
    how about a 2-door 900 turbo revival?
  • philipovan hour ago
    I'm betting that High-End Concept will win the race over Saab.
  • heyitsmedotjayban hour ago
    those kids don't stand a chance against such an epic aircraft
  • blini-kotan hour ago
    should've made nice cars instead T_T
  • lenerdenatoran hour ago
    If we're going to expend time and effort on finding new and exciting ways to destroy other members of our species, it might be worth noting that the major change in battles over the last decade seems to have been flooding the zone with cheap, micro-to-small drones, not something like this.

    That being said, perhaps we find something more productive to do with our time as humans?

    • budman128 minutes ago
      All of the current conflicts (russia / ukraine, us / iran) would consider drones as a nuisance if:

      #1. For russia / ukraine neither side has air superiority. If one side had it, they could be obliterating the other side with a constant stream of 500 lb gravity bombs. Each of which has more explosives than 100 drones.

      #2. For us / iran, the US is unwilling to risk any pilots. And iran has some air defenses in place. The US could drop bombs from up close, gravity mk-82's and jdams every hour for months. Currently they are using standoff weapons which are either minimally effective (drones) or crazy expensive (Tomohawk, Standard Missile, etc.)

      One B1 gets shot down, and 4 crew get paraded around in downtown Tehran, and what little support trump has will vanish.

      What am I trying to say? Drones have a place. They don't obsolete anything. The key is to have the weapons available to meet the time in which they are needed.

    • bluGillan hour ago
      Be careful that you're not able to fight the next war because all your effort is working on solving the problems of the past war when your enemy has found a better way around it.

      It would be nice if humans could find ways to not kill each other, but the reality is humans have a very poor track record and you would be a fool to not put at least some effort into defending yourself.

      • BurningFrogan hour ago
        We have found a way to not kill each other!

        Rich free market democracies don't fight wars against each other.

        • Tuna-Fishan hour ago
          We unfortunately have not found a way to turn our kleptokratic dictatorship neighbor into one.

          The greatest failure of the past 20 years was the belief that if we open up trade and grow rich together, rational self-interest will lead to liberalization and peace. Instead, it just gave our enemies more resources to spend on self-destructive imperialist ambitions.

        • c0baltan hour ago
          This might have to be put into the context that they do in fact move the conflict over resources to economic wars. They also actively engage in wars over ressources when they think they can win outside of MAD, see U. S. vs Iran.

          Economic warfare also does in fact kill people. Denying a population, e. g., Cuba, the ability to access medicine/food kills humans just as well as a bullet in the long term.

          There are various other ways this causes suffering. Different forms of warfare are still warfare, even if you don't to hold a gun for all of them.

          Being "rich" also requires someone else to be "poor".

          • fifilura43 minutes ago
            Perfect is the enemy of good.

            Market democracy is not perfect but it solves 90% of the problems we'd have otherwise.

        • enaaem33 minutes ago
          Only with rational actors. But do not underestimate the stupidity of leaders who thought it would be easy.
        • jayd1644 minutes ago
          So is the US not democratic enough, not rich enough or not free market enough?
          • fifilura18 minutes ago
            In case of war privilieges, your president can act as a dictator. At least the first 90 days, unless he finds a way to reset those days.
          • enaaem26 minutes ago
            Also a very Christian nation that follows the teachings of Jesus.
        • bryanlarsenan hour ago
          The "Golden Arches Theory of Conflict Prevention" has been broken 4 times:

          - NATO v Yugoslavia 1999 - India v Pakistan 1999 - Russia v Georgia 2008 - Russia v Ukraine 2014, 2022

          • fifilura19 minutes ago
            What is the denominator? I.e. how many times did it prevent war?
          • benxh20 minutes ago
            NATO v Yugoslavia 1999 is not like the others
    • _joel20 minutes ago
      You can't fly a micro drone thousands of km's
    • rbanffyan hour ago
      > not something like this

      When all you make are hammers, all your enemies look like nails.