88 pointsby seam_carver4 hours ago27 comments
  • Night_Thastus2 hours ago
    I got the Libra Color awhile back. I rediscovered my love of reading. Chewed through dozens of Star Trek books (some are quite good!). And a comic, which surprised me with the color and resolution the Libra offered.

    The store seems to work well and the prices are pretty cheap, but you can also load them manually through something like Calibre if you already have a collection of ebooks.

    I love how thin and light it is. I originally thought the small size would be a downside, but being able to fit it almost anywhere has made it great for plane/train rides or any kind of trip.

    The battery lasts quite a long time, though it seems to discharge quickly if you don't use it for a while.

    I think my favorite part is that it's just super intuitive. It feels purpose-built and does everything in the way I expect it to.

    Overall, highly recommend. Very good product.

  • jjice3 hours ago
    I got a Kindle Paperwhite as a gift from my work and I fell in love with e-readers. Then I really didn't like how Amazon was locking down getting your own epubs onto the device (it's only gotten worse), so I quickly found Kobos were an excellent device for my use case. I found that buying ePubs online was way more available than I would have thought and now I get to keep my digital books. Just drag and drop them onto the Kobo.

    Kobo also has a "sideload mode" that (despite the slightly confusing name) just remove all online features all together.

    • criddell3 hours ago
      > Amazon was locking down getting your own epubs onto the device

      Curious about what has changed? I've only ever used the email method and that continues to work.

      • thg2 hours ago
        It no longer does for the first few generations of Kindles. My Kindle Keyboard (16 years old, but it still works and I still use it almost daily) is essentially a useless paperweight now, as far as Amazon is concerned. De-registering it will brick it and they shut down the "send file to e-mail" service, too. Can no longer buy and download books off Amazon either (they shut that down in 2024, afaik).

        If not for Calibre, I would have absolutely no option of ever getting new books on it.

        • shrubbyan hour ago
          I've decided with all my commercial e-readers that the USB+calibre is my only option as I do not wish to share my reading habits with the zillionaire overlord.

          There might be new and fancy UI or something, but I spend 99% of the time only flipping pages so the outdated UX is nothing compared to the privacy I get.

          Ancient Basic Kindle works still nicely and so does 1st gen Paperwhite + the few Kobo's we have in the family.

      • bix63 hours ago
        Same here re email. Though I’m considering switching to kobo anyways cuz Bezos sucks.
        • toomuchtodo2 hours ago
          I have been hoping for an open e-reader to be built, and it appears someone is building one: https://hackaday.com/2026/07/14/open-book-touch-makes-crowd-... (Joey Castillo’s Open Book project, no affiliation, I just like open/sovereign tech stacks)

          > But what you won’t get is locked down with DRM — the Open Book Touch uses standard EPUB and TXT files loaded from a micro SD card, and thanks to the WiFi-enabled ESP32 at its heart, it offers up a web interface that lets you manage your collection over the network.

          Kobo works great in my experience though for those looking for a turnkey open-ish commercial solution.

          • Uncle_Brumpus2 hours ago
            I read on the original Openbook lite, which despite only accepting .txt files, is still a great little device. I'm excited to get the touch and not have to pre-format massive files in a text editor.
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    • dominotw3 hours ago
      what you mean by locking down? your epub is your epub . i read third party epubs on kindle all the time. i am not sure if i am missing something here dont understand the downvotes. I've read third party books on kindle for decades with no issues.
      • JoeBOFH3 hours ago
        Amazon is making it harder and harder to copy third party books onto the devices.
        • dominotw3 hours ago
          by doing what? i do it all that time. did one this morning.
          • skydhash3 hours ago
            I gifted my sister my kindle this morning (it was unused for years) after loaded it with azw3 files converted from epub using calibre. The other options is to send epub via email. But I told her to never put it out of airplane mode and get it on WiFi because amazon has deleted my "documents" (that's what they called sideloaded books) before.

            I own two kobos, a libra for fiction and an ellipsa for tech books and textbooks. Both have koreader on.

            • allannienhuis2 hours ago
              using https://www.amazon.com/sendtokindle it's trivial. I just bought the Greg Bear humble bundle (27 epub books), dragged all of them in one step, clicked the submit button and that was it. Books showed up on my paperwhite kindle in a moment. Couldn't have been easier. Books sent that way don't disappear from your device as far as I can tell - I've done similar large batch uploads for ages, and they're all still in my library, and available on all of my devices.
              • Gud32 minutes ago
                Why should Amazon be involved at all? Why should they know my reading habits?
      • kubik3693 hours ago
        > i read third party epubs on kindle all the time.

        No, you do not. Kindle has never and, as far as I am aware, to this day, does not support epubs. The only way to read epubs on your Kindle is to convert them either by Amazon's Send to Kindle service or through software like Calibre.

        • ssl-32 hours ago
          It has the appearance of working like this:

            1.  Epub of a book exists on a computer
            2.  User takes simple action to read that book on a Kindle device
            3.  ???
            4.  User succeeds at reading that same book
          
          When step 3 is basically invisible, "reading an epub on a kindle" seems like a rational way to view things.

          Like when Github invisibly renders Markdown into HTML for display in my browser: It seems rational to say that I'm reading a Markdown document.

          Or when I print that same HTML onto paper and read it. I'm not reading the HTML nor the Postscript intermediates: I'm still reading a Markdown document.

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  • strictnein3 hours ago
    Interesting observation here. I still read a lot, but airplanes have become a place I rarely do. I used to always pick up a book every time I flew and would finish it on the flight home. I would still much rather read a real book on the beach than doomscroll though.

    > "We're losing the person who reads one book a year," he says. "And that was the person who bought their one Tom Clancy novel when they went on vacation, because you needed something to read on the plane because there was nothing else to do on the plane. Now that the plane has Wi-Fi, and so does that beach, that person is scrolling, not reading."

    • bluefirebrand2 hours ago
      Personally, I have basically stopped reading since my 20s, but I used to read a ton. I like pulp fantasy and scifi and noir detectives and other nonsense, no one seems to write that sort of thing anymore. I loved Dragonlance when it was around

      I don't want fantasy with "the most unique magic system ever created" or "the most complex society" I want to read about dudes and ladies with huge swords and magic killing dragons and conquering kingdoms

      I get it, I'm boring but I guarantee the whole "men don't read anymore" would be less true if publishers still put out books like I'm describing

      Instead when I go into a bookstore for the one time a year I shop for my wife for Christmas, I'm greeted by the likes of "Morning Glory Milking Farm"

      • derefran hour ago
        > I want to read about dudes and ladies with huge swords and magic killing dragons and conquering kingdoms

        If you're okay with these characters and kingdoms existing in vaguely-medieval China (with magically-empowered monks and Taoist-Buddhist symbolism) rather than vaguely-medieval Europe (with magically-empowered knights and Christian symbolism), then I think you'd be very happy to learn about the genre of xianxia (lit. "immortal heroes"). Unlike the Western high fantasy, xianxia fiction is at a peak of popularity right now, with tons of new stories getting published each month.

        As you might guess by the name, at first this was only a literary movement in China; but these days there are tons of English-language xianxia stories as well. And they're not necessarily being written in Chinese and then translated, as you might guess; there are some Western authors writing in this genre too.

        ---

        That being said: while you can find some xianxia stories in published physical form in stores, as a "new media" genre being written mostly by younger digital-native people, most xianxia stories are first being published digitally online as serial fiction.

        Among websites where these serials are published, https://wuxiaworld.com is popular for authors writing in Chinese (I believe the site offers professional translation services to authors), while https://royalroad.com is popular for authors writing in English.

        Also, and as a "new media" genre, these stories are "not well understood" by traditional publishers (i.e. they don't know how to market them), so these stories tend to need to achieve a very high level of popularity before the traditional publishers are willing to engage with them. So even when these authors do re-edit their originally-serially-published stories into books, they often end up finding no physical publisher willing to pick them up, and instead end up self-publishing for digital distribution through Kindle/iBooks/etc.

        • bluefirebrand32 minutes ago
          I like wuxia films quite a bit so I bet I would like this too. I don't own an e-reader or anything but I'll see what I can find. Thank you for the kind recommendation
      • strictnein11 minutes ago
        I used to read a ton of that stuff too and I really miss it. Terry Brooks type stuff. Enjoyable adventures that focus on a small group of characters. I also don't want overly complex worlds and stories for that type of book. The rest of my life is already too complex as it is.
      • BigTTYGothGFan hour ago
        Give this a try: https://www.blackgate.com

        > I'm greeted by the likes of "Morning Glory Milking Farm"

        The genre survived John Norman and Jack Chalker, it can handle a little sex stuff aimed at women. I haven't read that book, but I have read "In the Barn", from famous award-winning anthology "Again, Dangerous Visions" and as such one really has to lean into the dairy-themed smut for me to raise an eyebrow.

        • bluefirebrand34 minutes ago
          My point is more that as a middle aged dude that grew up reading, the current publishing industry feels awfully hostile to me.

          I grew up on Redwall, Riftwar, Dragonlance, Mercedes Lackey and Troy Gibson and probably a few others that I'm forgetting now.

          Nowadays they would probably be criticized as being too generic or too slow or not engaging enough or whatever but I loved them

          Actually, thinking about it. All of the big ones I mentioned were about worlds. The individual books often introduced different and new characters and parts of the world. Time passed in the settings.

          Nowadays I feel I pick up a fantasy book and it's always a 3-5 book series following one particular person and I'm just so much less interested in it. Salvatore cured me of that.

          But this Blackgate looks interesting. I'll take a closer look when I'm home. Thank you for the recommendation. Love your username too, gave me a good laugh when I saw it.

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      • maxsilveran hour ago
        > Instead when I go into a bookstore for the one time a year I shop for my wife for Christmas, I'm greeted by the likes of "Morning Glory Milking Farm"

        Did you walk two shelves past that?

        Yes, various flavors of romance tend to sell the most right now, so tend to hang out in the front of the store. They're popular in their own right, but I get it if a guy walks in and sees Fourth Wing up front and just wants to bounce.

        However, there's tons of new fantasy and sci-fi running around. (In addition to Sanderson, there's Andy Weir, T. Kingfisher, Alix E. Harrow, VE Schwab, Christopher Paolini, RF Kuang, Joe Abercrombie, and like a dozen more I'm probably forgetting)

      • kevin_thibedeauan hour ago
        Bookstores aren't for you. As you've seen, they cater to a certain type of customer now. Similar to how department stores are biased to one type of customer and dedicate much more floor space to them.

        There are plenty of old books in the genres you like waiting to be read. Some of them will be in digital format. None of them will be AI dreck.

      • cattenwallen2 hours ago
        I mean they 100% exist. Brandon Sanderson isn't some excessively complicated fantasy world (despite what fans may say, Sanderson is very approachable). Dungeon Crawler Carl is all the rage. Hell, The Locked Tomb trilogy has tons of big swords and stuff. The reason why morning glory milking farm and other smut exists on bookshelves now is that women were finding and buying the small stuff when no one gave them the time of day. If you want your stuff back on shelves, start buying them, for they 100% exists even if it's a self-publishing sword and sorcery guy.
  • Pfhortune3 hours ago
    I love that Kobos can still be set up completely offline. At the setup screen you can mount the device, set a flag in the config file, unmount/reboot, and boom, it's ready for your books.

    My Clara BW is my daily driver. As much as I'd like to use an open reader, their rendering and screen quality are still not quite as polished as the corpo options.

    • rationalist3 hours ago
      I just bought a Kobo Clara Color after purchasing various Kindles for years.

      It requires an online setup (account).

      A quick search did not find what your saying. Can you please post a how-to or link one (that I couldn't find)?

      • Pfhortune3 hours ago
        https://qtekfun.com/random-stuff/bypass-kobo/

        This guide is for a kobo that is already set up, but the procedure is mostly the same from step 5 onwards for a new device.

        The only step that I think is missing from this guide is that you have to select a language before connecting the Kobo via USB, in my experience. Mass storage mode should work once you have picked a language.

        I also did the same on a factory reset, used Libra Color, and that worked well. On that device I had to do some trickery to get the notes feature to work, which I think involved loading up some dictionary files. I can't readily find the guide I followed for that.

        ---

        Edit: I'll also note here that this setup works flawlessly with Calibre! It is detected and syncs easily!

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    • koalp2 hours ago
      It’s nice that they have it but strange that it’s hidden.

      It would be better if it was an option on the setup screen, and even better if it was the default option and if the login screen was in the parameters.

      Because as an hidden option I always fear that they remove it and that we have to find an alternative. And so far DIY e-reader do not seem great.

      • Pfhortunean hour ago
        I do agree, but I am glad the option exists, in contrast with competing readers on the market. And I am very glad that it is an option that requires zero talking to activation servers or other infra.

        The way they implemented this means that these Kobos can always avoid being e-waste even if Kobo disappears. Assuming they don't maliciously remove it, that is, but seeing as it was added fairly recently and is fairly obscure, I doubt they would bother doing so for current and past devices.

        > And so far DIY e-reader do not seem great.

        Being generous and expanding DIY to mean any "open" or "modifiable" reader, this ecosystem has actually be rapidly improving in quality and selection recently. A few new devices were announced recently, and I'm particularly interested in the new M5Stack offering since it has a frontlight and LoRA.

        https://liliputing.com/lilbits-more-phone-sized-e-ink-gadget...

        I wish I could recommend any Android-based readers, but the software ecosystem for them is quite poor. I would immediately purchase one if they offered a verifiably-clean AOSP or LineageOS option.

    • lynndotpy3 hours ago
      Yep, this is the reason I chose a Kobo.
  • jm42 hours ago
    Love Kobo. I switched from Kindle to the Libra Colour a while back. It's a superior device and I don't have to give money to Amazon. It's more responsive, it has physical buttons for turning pages and the screen looks great. The built in book store is ok. I haven't had trouble finding anything, but there aren't many reviews if you're into that sort of thing. I was able to sideload my Kindle library easily too.
    • Insanityan hour ago
      Does it have Goodreads integration? Not that it'd be a dealbreaker for me to switch, but I do enjoy that it syncs my reading progress / library with Goodreads. Which is how me and my friends tend to share what we're reading and then discuss the books at times.
      • mingus8820 minutes ago
        Kobo integrates with Libby/Overdrive which I prefer anyway. I maintain lists and progress with my public library subscription
        • Insanity17 minutes ago
          Cool that you prefer Libby, but saying "use tool X instead" is not really a solution to wanting to use "tool Y". :D
      • jm4an hour ago
        Not as far as I can tell. If I'm not mistaken, Goodreads is owned by Amazon now.

        The Kobo does have good Overdrive integration and that's a huge plus.

        • Insanity18 minutes ago
          You're right, Goodreads is owned by Amazon. Somehow didn't think about this, but they'd of course lock it down lol
  • hn_submit3 hours ago
    Amazon wiping people's e-books they had already bought was probably the straw that broke the camel's back. Yeah, they swore to never do it again but what's that worth?

    I've been steering clear from Kindle even though their devices are an attractive buy. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if Amazon left the e-reader market in a few years since their Kindles are tainted.

    • criddell3 hours ago
      The camel is doing just fine. Amazon ereaders have 70+% market share.
    • kitd3 hours ago
      Fun fact: I searched for Kobo Clara on Amazon, and the algorithm has labelled it "Amazon's choice". A subtle agreement with you maybe :)
  • ryanmcbride4 hours ago
    My wife and I both had kindles since they were first a thing and we both switched to Kobo a few years ago. So nice not getting ads.
  • guillybarres3 hours ago
    70% women is about what I see in bookstores, and frequently the main display cases are geared towards genres more popular among women, like romantasy.
  • miladyincontrol2 hours ago
    A possibly minor nitpick but given women are the majority of their customer base, please make these things more aesthetic. Doesnt even have to be a whole redesign, give it some color, even just an on-trend shade would go far to make it a lot more fashionable.
    • rationalist2 hours ago
      What I would appreciate is them not plastering the logo/name on the front where it's staring you in the face as you try to read. I already bought the damn device, stop advertising (harassing) to me!

      (Both my previous generation Kindle Paperwhite that I switched from and the Kobo Clara Colour that I switched to, do this.)

      Then if they could make the glass screen flush with the front like the Paperwhite, that would be awesome too.

    • TFNA2 hours ago
      Kobo covers are the main way people get that aesthetic oomph.
  • pepperoni_pizzaan hour ago
    Public Service Announcement: if you're loading epubs to Kobo via Calibre, make sure to convert them to kepub (the Kobo's "enahanced" version of epub). Calibre can do that with no loss of quality with a checkbox, and page turns are much much faster.
  • int32_643 hours ago
    If you aren't reading comics I wouldn't recommend color e-readers yet. The screens are dimmer and have a noticeable filter over them.
  • Hasz4 hours ago
    Kobo Elipsa (1) is my preferred reader for PDFs/papers in particular. Genuinely good product, software works well enough and presents as USB mass storage, long battery life. Other than perhaps a more responsive, USB-C pen, IDK what else you could improve on.
  • hedgehog2 hours ago
    Does anyone here have experience building custom apps for the Kobo? I'm considering getting an e-ink device as a way to shift document reviews off of my regular LCD screens and away from my desk.
  • usern202607202 hours ago
    I just got the biggest one they sell. I wanted to fulfil my dream of turning pages using a remote. It turns out though, that the device is switching off both wifi and bluetooth every few minutes (Maybe only when there is no wifi available) and there’s no devmodeon capable of fixing that.
  • tjridesbikes2 hours ago
    I bought a Clara Color when Amazon decided that my Kindle Keyboard was no longer worthy of receiving ebooks that I purchased. I've loved it so far. I love that was even able to load my jailbroken epub library to the Kobo. I paid for the damned book. Let me read it!
  • alpineman3 hours ago
    No one reasonable wants to support Bezos and his Melania funding
  • hosel3 hours ago
    Is there anything out there comparable to my original Kindle Oasis? Mine has lived in airplane mode its whole life and I’m afraid for when it finally dies
    • criddell3 hours ago
      I've never found one.

      Kobo has the Sage which seems similar at first glance, but unfortunately it also has a stylus. It's closer to a Kindle Scribe or a Remarkable device.

      • TFNA2 hours ago
        Sage was discontinued already some time ago.
  • erghjunk3 hours ago
    I bought a kobo (2022 maybe?) pretty much entirely because (at the time anyway) it had the best on-device integration with Overdrive. not sure if kindle, nook, etc still require you to browse and check out books on a secondary device and then sync but I appreciated the kobo getting rid of that step. still using it and still happy.
  • throwaway1737383 hours ago
    Is there a way to get kids books on Kobo? Every time we fly we carry like 10 pounds of board books to keep my son entertained. It would be awesome to have an ebook reader with his board books and other stuff on it.
    • rationalist3 hours ago
      Aren't those designed fit the page, in other words, to keep it looking the same, it would have to be squished (and unreadable) to fit on the screen?
  • throwawayk7h2 hours ago
    I hacked my old kindle from a decade ago, highly recommended to anyone who wants to unlock it. There are guides online.
  • criddell2 hours ago
    I switched to buying books from Kobo this year because removing DRM from books bought at Amazon is getting too difficult and unreliable.
  • mparnisari3 hours ago
    Kobo has daily deals going. Every day I open my wishlist and sort by price lowest to highest, and every few days I buy something.
    • TFNA2 hours ago
      Of course one pays for the actual electronic device, but after that, why buy ebooks? Nearly everything one would want to read is already on the shadow libraries.
  • fred_is_fred4 hours ago
    I bought one in July, I chose Kobo because it's hackable and you can ssh in. So far I've had as much fun with that as with reading.
    • cosmic_cheese3 hours ago
      They’re also just more user friendly in general. I have a nearly decade old Kobo that still serves its purpose well and I love how it shows up as a mass storage device when plugged into my computer. No clunky management software (Calibre may be functional, but its UI is godawful) or file conversions required, you just manage plain old epubs in your file browser. That functionality can’t randomly vanish one day, either (unlike e.g. Amazon’s email-to-Kindle service). It’s great.

      As a side effect of its openness I’ve bought more books through the Kobo store than I would have otherwise. A perfect counter example is my Oculus Quest 2 which I go out of my way to not buy games from its associated marketplace on; as long as that device is hard-tethered to Facebook and its software, I’m better off as using it as a “dumb” headset with VR purchases going to PC marketplaces like Steam.

      • MrDOS2 hours ago
        > plain old epubs

        Kobo devices ship two different rendering engines: the obsolete, appallingly bad Adobe Reader Mobile SDK (RMSDK), and their own, bespoke, WebKit-based renderer. By default, files with an .epub extension are rendered with RMSDK. Consequently, you'll get all sorts of weird issues. Some of the ones I've encountered: I've had cover images not displaying in the library, misbehaving internal links (footnotes), inability to override typefaces/text size.

        Easy fix: rename the file to .kepub.epub[0].

        Slightly more involved fix: run the file through Kepubify[1] first. This tool makes further tweaks to the books to enable a few other features, like remaining read time estimation.

        [0]: https://github.com/kobolabs/epub-spec#sideloading-for-testin...

        [1]: https://pgaskin.net/kepubify/

        • cosmic_cheesean hour ago
          Interesting, I wasn't aware of this, but it's good to know. My needs haven't been demanding enough to notice a difference.
        • pepperoni_pizzaan hour ago
          Calibre can also do that for you transparently when loading the files onto the Kobo.
    • delecti3 hours ago
      You can't SSH into kindles anymore? I know that used to be a thing.
    • rpdillon4 hours ago
      I had no idea! I'd switched from Kindle to Boox because Boox runs Android, which is more hackable, but if Kobo supports SSH, I'll have to give it another look!
      • juiceland3 hours ago
        It’s a shame that Boox disregards GPL2 intentionally. Wish we had more hardware makers that weren’t hostile to free software.

        [0]https://x.com/puffnfresh/status/1587064729977044994?s=46

      • Seattle35033 hours ago
        How do you like your Boox device?
        • genericuser25611 minutes ago
          I liked my boox palma a lot until its display broke randomly after 2 months in a soft pocket and now it's ewaste.
      • fred_is_fred3 hours ago
        It's busybox underneath so you can hack on it but you can't run full apps in the Android sense.
  • unethical_ban3 hours ago
    If my Kindle ever breaks I'm going to look at Kobo. I prefer whatever ecosystem sells me the ebooks that are easiest to de-DRM so I can own what I've paid for. A decade ago, that was Amazon, but they have locked down a lot.
    • criddell3 hours ago
      I probably will move to Kobo eventually as well. My current device is the Oasis and I wish I had bought a spare. I was always hoping Amazon would update it with a USB-C port which I would have bought on day 1.

      I know it's such a small issue that no politician will ever take it on, but I really wish there would be some legislation around forcing interoperability and ebook transfer rights.

      You can buy a Blu Ray disk and it's going to work in your player. Ebooks should be like that too. And I should be able to give away my ebook collection the same way I can my BR collection.

  • Larrikin3 hours ago
    Kavita, Tailscale, KoReader with OPDS, on the Kobo is basically a perfect system for organizing ebooks, transferring, and reading.
  • AlexB1383 hours ago
    • dang2 hours ago
      Thanks! Good idea. I'll put the submitted URL in the toptext instead.
  • bryanlarsen4 hours ago
    Doubling a really small number is not particularly impressive. The article doesn't have numbers, but I believe that Canadian sales of Kobo still significantly exceed American sales despite the doubling.