New US missile left wide path of death and destruction in Iranian neighborhoods(apnews.com)

9 pointsby ck25 hours ago2 comments

metalman2 hours ago
the blast patern fits the type of mass casualty weapons that only the US posseses in this conflict. The US anounced the first time use of such a munition on the day of these strikes but didnt reveal a target, and later dissowned there own self reporting. The projectiles are tunsten, and the origin will be identifiable through metalurgical analysis. Given that this is just one incident in the unprovoked illegal American war of choice we can be sure that it will be decades before there is even token acountability. Though as it turns out the unequivical rejection of the US by the entire Irainian population due to relentless US attacks on Irainian civilians is a price that US did not expect.
ck25 hours ago
not that there is anything ethical firing missiles into a civilian population
but is this even "legal" in war? it's like an industrial level pipebomb filled with sharpened BBs?
> The PrSM is designed to explode midair and propel tens of thousands of dense metal pellets at high speed in all directions
> The blasts killed at least 21 civilians, including seven children
- johng5 hours ago
  I'll note that they got the figures of civilians from Iran itself, which was mentioned right after the line that you copy and pasted from but conveniently left out. It would be wise to be skeptical of the figures from Iran, just like it would be wise to be skeptical of the figures from Hamas. They have an incentive to lie.
  Having said that, this doesn't seem like the right weapon for a civilian area at all. I don't know the target, maybe in the long run it was worth it. We may never know. But last I heard the figure of civilians killed by the IRGC in the past year was over 52,000. If we can get closer to the end of that regime and save lives, perhaps there will be some small semblance of understanding.
  - bewareofscams3 hours ago
    > They have an incentive to lie
    Unlike the US!
  - ck23 hours ago
    end the regime? what? how?
    we caused the replacement of an 80 year old dictator with a 50 year old dictator who is even more hardline
    the US is not saving a single life in Iran, it is literally accelerating the death of thousands as "collaborators" (which is of course ridiculous) as well as directly causing the death of innocent civilians via thousands of bombs and missiles costing billions every single day for 180+ days
    the only right move was to go back to what was in place six months ago
    and the only way that happens is the end of our own regime in 2029
    when do we end the regime in North Korea starving their people to death daily?
    verdverm3 hours ago
    NK has nukes, so they will not be attacked, and now everyone is building (more) nukes, some because they no longer have faith in the US nuclear umbrella
  - ImJamal3 hours ago
    Interesting how you are so dubious about Iran and Hamas numbers but accept the 52,000 number without question. Trump originally said 32,000, then 42,000, then 60,000, then 52,000 and now today it is 100,000.
    ck22 hours ago
    in this case there are actual photos of cars and residential neighborhoods with walls pieced by thousands of pieces of shrapnel
    are we arguing over "oh it might have JUST been a DOZEN innocent civilians" vs 21?
    US still hasn't admitted to dropping a tomahawk on an active elementary school killing hundreds using decade-old data after eliminating the part of the pentagon that reviews targets to make sure the are legit and up to date
    I'm not taking Iran's side, I'm imagining sitting in my apartment or school while some other regime decides to drone or bomb innocent civilians here because they don't like who is running the country hundreds or thousands of miles away
    we are still killing hundreds of fishermen off the coast of Venezuela without trial that are in outboard-motor boats incapable of making it to US
    we need to stop killing people just because we can, why does it even need to said?
    we decimated Iraq and Afghanistan killing thousands, why? What did we change? Girls can't even go to school past 6th grade there
    $40 Trillion national debt and half of that is from war that changes nothing