35 pointsby Tabular-Iceberg4 hours ago8 comments
  • happytoexplain28 minutes ago
    >Gupta described it as “DEI” to “prop up” Americans as a “preferred group.”

    This is easily one of the most eyebrow-raisingly dangerous things I've ever seen a leader of any kind (business or political) in the US say out loud. It summons images of the USA on fire from coast to coast in riots.

  • xvxvx3 hours ago
    It was clearly a minor joke but I don’t think people realize how close to the fire the immigration debate is. There are sections of X making plans for seizing the property and belongings of deported H1B visa holders. It’s extreme but not impossible.
    • _--__--__an hour ago
      Most of the people talking like that are far removed from real power and influence. But I suppose extending your twitter flamewar to include the chair of the FTC is one way to change that...
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  • ActionHank3 hours ago
    Why not spin up the startups in those other countries then?

    Heck, why not spin up YC Foundries elsewhere in the world?

    No H1B needed.

    • blhack2 hours ago
      YC has. There has been (if I remember correctly) batches entirely based on India.
      • ActionHank2 hours ago
        No, you misunderstand, I am not saying run a batch there. I am saying that YC should startup an org there that purely contracts to their startups, no need to hire, no need for H1Bs.
        • downrightmikean hour ago
          Then you are competing for talent with Fortune 500 companies that pay more than startup wages.
          • em-beean hour ago
            in the US they are not competing?
    • phoronixrly3 hours ago
      Because US VCs seem to have an allergic reaction to EU regulation?

      Was that a rhetorical question or do you miss the regularly scheduled front page posts complaining that the EU kills innovation?

      • ActionHank3 hours ago
        Gotta be honest, I very strongly doubt that most H1Bs go to people out of the EU.
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  • samrus3 hours ago
    trolling very close to the sun
  • tkel3 hours ago
    Capitalist right-wing vs nativist right-wing
  • decremental3 hours ago
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  • zerr3 hours ago
    How is discrimination by citizenship more acceptable than e.g. discrimination by ethnicity or race? All of these are outcomes of birth lottery.
    • estearum3 hours ago
      Not taking a position on either side of the underlying debate, but obviously a government has a unique obligation to its own citizens, and ideally no unique obligation to an ethnicity or race.
    • ckrapu3 hours ago
      A country's first responsibility should be to its citizens.
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    • happytoexplain37 minutes ago
      Maybe in one thousand years we will all be one joint geo-political entity, which will be great, but until then it is an unassailable fact of physical reality that nations must prioritize their own citizens. That doesn't mean ignoring everybody else - just prioritizing.
    • ActionHank3 hours ago
      What obligation does the government have to those who are not their citizens? 100% a lottery, but your logic here is willful ignorance.
      • zerr3 hours ago
        The point is to have a system that does not discriminate based on lottery.
        • happytoexplain34 minutes ago
          That's a great ideal, but is obviously impossible to the extent that you are implying, until we can eliminate national and legal borders entirely, which is a distant-future goal. You're putting the horse lightyears before the cart.
        • ckrapu2 hours ago
          Well, an American farmer cannot sell his grain in India. That also seems to be discrimination simply because he is in the wrong place. Are you arguing that all protectionism is flawed and wrong?
          • __d2 hours ago
            Until very recently, that was a pretty common view. Countries generally want unconstrained exports, while limiting competitive imports.
            • ckrapu2 hours ago
              That might be true in practice but also 1) completely incompatible with global notions of fairness and justice, and 2) not an especially compelling political argument for getting countries to open up their markets.