OpenAI restores 5-hour Codex and Work limits for ChatGPT Plus users(9to5mac.com)
74 pointsby MC9952 hours ago21 comments
  • phyzomean hour ago
    "During this period, the company also reset users’ weekly usage early on several occasions to celebrate milestones"

    Such a casino vibe.

    • vatsachak33 minutes ago
      Hey I work in the casino industry and we have regulations!
    • qsort3 minutes ago
      They now give out resets you can choose when to use, but with a "best before" date. With Anthropic you don't even know what model you'll have access to next week. A few months ago I wanted to try a subscription to Gemini but I couldn't figure out how to give them money. The other one thinks he's Mecha Hitler.

      To an extent I get it, this is not like a normal SaaS where you just buy seats, but their commercial offerings, especially B2C ones, feel like complete amateur hour. If they were selling literally anything else I'd have ran for the hills a long time ago.

    • F7F7F7an hour ago
      Both OpenAI and Anthropic use a lot of casino/slot machine mechanics in their TUIs and Apps so likely intentional.
      • algoth120 minutes ago
        When there’s billions involved everything is intentional
      • TomJansen42 minutes ago
        Do you have any examples of this? I am not sure if I understand what you mean
        • derwiki38 minutes ago
          I think the whole nature of agentic programming is variable reward: kick off a bunch of prompts, obsessively check “which one nailed it??” Or at least I get a dopamine hit when the agents notifies me that it’s done with its turn.
    • bko19 minutes ago
      I think it's great that oai resets users limits. What is this complaint?

      Free drinks? Keep customers happy? Reward your heaviest users? Casino vibes

      • vatsachak11 minutes ago
        I think there can be many complaints about large scale AI providers but given that large companies are now pushing for local models it seems that we are luckily avoiding the situation where AI is a utility
    • tom1337an hour ago
      also it sounds like users benefit but they mostly don't. resets mostly benefitted OpenAI and only gave users few additionals hours.
    • palmotea30 minutes ago
      >> During this period, the company also reset users’ weekly usage early on several occasions to celebrate milestones, including adding another million active users across the two (now unified) platforms.

      > Such a casino vibe.

      No no no! It means we're all in it together! Feel the parasocial vibes!

    • mannanj14 minutes ago
      Yeah. I switched to codex 1.5 months ago to try it, and for some reason the "vibe" kept me here. It was really the unpredictable rewards from the constant resets though. I am not convinced it's a better product or that sol + any combination of luna is better than Claude.

      I'll be switching back.

    • bpodgursky29 minutes ago
      The vibe was people goofing around on Twitter. There's one guy making the call and the reset is kind of a meme.
  • harrisoned6 minutes ago
    It will get worse!

    Tighter limits, forcing people to higher plans. Most will go as they are addicted and dependent on those tools. They need to use to finish the project they started as no human will touch that pile of code. If you didn't saw this coming, as it has been the standard business strategy from all kinds of SaaS in the last years, you haven't been paying attention.

  • fau2 hours ago
    > This is necessary as (a) the 5h limit allows us to smoothen the load on our compute, allowing to keep the plan generous in terms of weekly usage

    Seems fair, but then maybe the 5h usage should also drain slower during off-peak hours? Perhaps it already does.

    > and (b) users on the Plus plan are relatively casual and new users, but then also just accidentally eat through their whole weeks usage and then are confused, making it not a great experience.

    Wouldn't this one be fixed by making the 5h limit a guardrail you can opt out of? If so, then this doesn't work as justification for a mandatory limit.

    • bootloopedan hour ago
      Also, I want to be able to eat through my whole week's usage at once. What if I was busy all week and want to work on my personal project(s) Saturday or Sunday.
    • cactusplant7374an hour ago
      There are no off-peak hours. I have received the model overloaded error that cancels my current goal during the early hours of the morning.
      • out_of_protocolan hour ago
        > early hours of the morning

        which TZ?

        > There are no off-peak hours.

        Probably US west coast hours, but there's no public stats

        • walthamstow2 minutes ago
          Peak AI demand is about 5-6pm London time which is when west coast US comes online while UK and EU are still working. Most of Anthropic's outages this year have happened in that period.
        • cactusplant737410 minutes ago
          2AM CST
  • flimflamman hour ago
    So we must move to 5 hour working days. Thanks OpenAI!
    • pzo31 minutes ago
      probably less - I sometimes manage to burn like most of my 5h credits on Claude 5x Max plan in 2h.

      The annoying things is that you gave bigger tasks and is such session finished maybe 70% and after 5h pool resets cache will expire so that if you "please continue" it will wipe out again a lot of your 5h pool)

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  • LaurensBERan hour ago
    Given that it's not possible to buy the USD 100,- or USD 200,- subscription on a team/corporate plan this effectively introduces the 5h limits again for all corporate users.

    At this point the 40 USD/120 USD Cursor Team subscription suddenly becomes a lot more attractive. You'll get more generous limits and a single monthly limit.

    • trollbridgean hour ago
      Based on the ads flooding me on LinkedIn, Facebook, and anywhere else I see ads, Cursor is really going after this market right now.
      • stavrosan hour ago
        I'm curious about why you see ads, I didn't think anyone on HN does, nowadays. Given how easy it is to install uBlock, is it a conscious decision to browse adfully?
        • roban hour ago
          Why not? I owe my life to ads. Thank you Google AdSense and Yahoo! Ads for the hundreds of thousands of dollars you paid for 16 year old Rob to slap them on his MySpace layout website in 2006 so Timmy could put a glitter graphic of Stone Cold Steve Austin on his banner.
        • walthamstowan hour ago
          I don't think that many people here voluntarily go on Facebook either
          • dgellowan hour ago
            I’m still shocked to hear that people go on LinkedIn
            • phyzomean hour ago
              LinkedIn has a couple of useful features: Getting in touch with former coworkers; seeing who might know the hiring manager for a position you're applying for; uh... that's about it.

              The rest is garbage but I guess is how they make their money.

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            • emkokoan hour ago
              yeah do yall go on linkedin for anything legitimate??
    • roban hour ago
      > Given that it's not possible to buy the USD 100,- or USD 200,- subscription on a team/corporate plan

      https://openai.com/index/premium-seats-chatgpt-business/

  • rrr_oh_man8 minutes ago
    Stupid question: Why are y'all not using the API? It’s more expensive, but you can do what you want.
    • emehex5 minutes ago
      > It's more expensive

      There's your answer

  • LetMeLoginan hour ago
    I really don't mind blowing my weekly usage in one day, but getting my tasks stopped and waiting for 5h cap to finish - is just annoying.
  • datakan36 minutes ago
    I left Claude because of this. I guess now I need to move on from OpenAI also
    • wobbat18 minutes ago
      But where will you go?
      • rrr_oh_man4 minutes ago
        I really don’t get why people use the native chat apps when you can use all models via their APIs with no restrictions.

        It’s more expensive, yes, but I assume most people here use it for something that is worth spending money on?

  • danielpassyan hour ago
    This is such a bummer for those of us living in third world countries. I’m not a casual user, I just can’t afford to pay more.
    • estebarb44 minutes ago
      Personally I have been using Deepseek V4 flash and it is enough for my needs. You can use OpenCode Zen/Go and also get access to many other models, including OpenAI ones. Writing purpose specific agents can make cheaper models close the intelligence gap with the most expensive ones
    • dgellowan hour ago
      Aren’t you better using other services than OpenAI if the price matters to you?
      • danielpassyan hour ago
        I’ve tried Claude Code and recently switched to Codex. I’ve found that $20 on Codex gets me 4–5 times more usage than on Claude Code.

        I could burn through my Opus usage in 1 hour whereas with Sol, I can go 3–4 days.

        • F7F7F7an hour ago
          Oolama? That plan is more than generous for $20.
          • LUmBULtERA39 minutes ago
            How is that the case? ChatGPT not only gives a lot of Codex/Agentic usage, once you've run out of that you still have a massive quota of Chat usage that's entirely separate. You can still use plug-ins with Github, Google Drive, etc... using the Chat usage as well.
      • usef-an hour ago
        You might be thinking of API pricing? The subscriptions give you a lot.
        • dgellowan hour ago
          Oh right, thanks for catching that
  • F7F7F734 minutes ago
    I see this as evidence that last weeks token burn rate wasn’t by accident or due to some “bug.”

    I don’t mind the 5 hour window but this is a reminder to not hinge your workflows on any one tool.

  • dgellowan hour ago
    I’m not a user myself but find it not great for your customers to announce such a change for the next day. Cannot they announce a few days in advance?
  • janilowski27 minutes ago
    Tragic day in AI.
    • datakan24 minutes ago
      The most transformative technology ever created! Brought to you in 5 hour increments..... maybe
  • sowrabhan hour ago
    I can understand Plus to some extent but why would Work users be considered casual or new?
  • tarr11an hour ago
    No point in using /fast mode if you are gonna get stopped after 5 hours.
  • BrucecarlLan hour ago
    Please don’t! Don’t limit my daily usage
  • honestlyrankedan hour ago
    I say its good because you can atleast have a break in between sessions
    • somenameformean hour ago
      Haha. I've been pretty happy using similar limits on Claude precisely for this. It provides a really nice work:life balance without that nagging feeling that I should really get a few more hours in.
  • hno8a34nwnan hour ago
    Honestly didn't expect that
  • q8zd3an hour ago
    Imagine paying for this shit..
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