Iran Is Using Foreign Criminals to Attack Its Critics Overseas(www.newyorker.com)
23 pointsby firefax4 hours ago7 comments
  • gcanyon3 hours ago
    No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys. This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war, but that doesn't clean Iran's hands.
    • ElProlactin2 hours ago
      > No matter how absurd the situation becomes, no matter how engaging the videos are, we should never be fooled into thinking Iran are the good guys.

      I don't think there are many people who believe "Iran are the good guys."

      Lots of people do understand that bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran to respond with the goal of inflicting widespread economic damage has in many ways actually helped and emboldened the Iranian regime.

      This wasn't just "unfortunate" and "ill-conceived". It was stupid and arguably criminal.

      • dundarious2 hours ago
        And it was known in advance: https://www.amerikanets.com/p/they-saw-it-coming
      • newspaper12 hours ago
        > I don't think there are many people who believe "Iran are the good guys."

        I'd consider them allies at least given that all of the bad guys hate Iran with a burning passion. Iran is also the only major country on earth that have actually stood up to Israel and helped defend Palestinians.

        • applicative2 hours ago
          It stood up for Palestinians by what? Vaporizing a half million Syrians? Annexing Lebanon? Khamenei was indifferent to any number of dead children on condition that they were Arabs, his race inferiors. Vast hundreds of thousands perished from his insane imperial ambition.
          • newspaper12 hours ago
            > It stood up for Palestinians by what?

            Iran is the only country that has retaliated against Israel. They literally bombed Tel Aviv and multiple other targets in Israel. They also support Hezbollah (also fighting Zionism and defending Palestinians).

            > Annexing Lebanon?

            The only people annexing Lebanon are the Zionists.

      • applicative2 hours ago
        These are all things Ukraine does, "bombing civilian infrastructure, killing innocent civilians, and taking actions that were inevitably going to lead Iran[Russia] to respond with the goal of inflicting widespread economic damage". It is extremely tiresome to hear such a litany without a wider analysis. In its mad program to retain control of ... Syria, of all places ... Iran killed and incinerated and dissolved in acid more people than any of this idiocy will ever add up to.
        • ElProlactin2 hours ago
          You'll have to point me to the place where I made any comment about or expressed any opinion on Ukraine.

          But since you raise the point: I am against any attacks on civilian infrastructure. They are an affront to humanity. Russia's attack on Ukraine was, I believe, a crime but one crime doesn't justify others. Modern warfare will be the end of us and anyone cheering death and destruction, even when it occurs as a result of acts of defense, has lost the plot.

        • newspaper12 hours ago
          Iran, like the Ukraine was attacked first. That being said Iran is waging a more moral war than Ukraine in my opinion.
    • cyanydeez2 hours ago
      Kinda hard to pick a side when both fuck little girls.
    • newspaper12 hours ago
      Well then you're doing the work of the same people that killed an entire school of little girls in an unprovoked attack. Nothing Iran has done comes close to what the Zionists have done in Iran and many other countries.
    • FpUser2 hours ago
      >"This is an unfortunate, ill-conceived war" - yeah, like we went in and killed some people. Oopsy but that's ok cause we're the good guys. Your logic stinks disregarding how bad the other side is.
  • King-Aaron2 hours ago
    The Israeli government has openly and publicly stated they will spread false information and propaganda directly through social media etc, which they heavily control all throughout the west, and have directly threatened western politicians that don't support their (often false) rhetoric, along with themselves conducting terrorist activities outside their own borders.

    I'm frankly quite tired of hearing about how terrible the Iranians are (and they are), because the people they are fighting are arguably worse. Iran are a threat to the middle east, but they're fighting nations that are actively a threat to the entire planet.

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  • tyjen2 hours ago
    Reminds me of a recent story about a Norwegian teenager who traveled to the UK to perform a hitman job for the Foxtrot Network, a Swedish organized crime group linked to Iran. The teenager received instructions from someone called "Agent 47."

    EDIT: Article for reference, https://archive.ph/xNSr2.

  • newspaper12 hours ago
    Iran has nothing on Israel when it comes to interfering with other nations. This is simply propaganda and missing the elephant in the room (on purpose of course).
  • doodlebugging2 hours ago
    Sounds like some of Trump's people are double-dipping Uncle Sam and the Ayatollah.
  • pazimzadeh3 hours ago
    terrible. pretty sure all major intelligence agencies do this to some degree