Even for simpler tasks, Chinese models took long time to complete, and I needed to supervise closely. The price , in the end, didn't come cheap, mainly because too much time wasted on thinking.

So maybe one day Chinese models will squeeze out the American ones, but today is not that day.

As far as consumers are concerned, I feel blindly shilling for anyone purely for ideological reasons are quite meaningless, especially when it comes to open/close source and US/China rivalry. I have no obligation to support "open source/weight" or the "underdogs" just because they are so. We only want things that work, and at a cheap price.

If it’s so much better, developers will switch. Lots of devs at my company have switched recently. But plenty of others have stayed on Claude.

I don’t think one is clearly better in every way right now. Or at least not better enough to make people want to learn and set up a new tool.

I can understand the fatigue - but as of today, for most thing I would say Sol is better.

If the opened up the 1M context in Codex, it would be unrivalled.

Enterprise may have a bit more difficulty context switching. Pun intended.

Nah. I switched away from Claude Code to Codex recently. It's refreshing how to-the-point 5.6-Sol is out of the box, and there's only so many load-bearing seams and honest takes I can handle from Opus. And additionally, yeah as you called out, the Codex Max plan is substantially more generous with tokens than Anthropic is with Claude Max and Opus/Fable.

And everyone else is close enough in terms of quality, their tiny advantage if any is insufficient. Let's not even talk speed.

OpenAI is competing with chinese models.

Maybe just the system prompt or my settings or the harness? Anyway, it seemed to me Codex was just deliberately being overcareful and wasting tons of tokens for a low-risk CSS / HTML refactoring with very minor breakage risk, while Claude got the job done immediately.

How do you know they don’t?

> is altman playing 4d chess or something I'm not aware of?

Anthropic just removed a discount on Fable, while people are simultaneously getting sick of reading fable and opus talking about “the load bearing texture” and “color of the blanket”. It’s become excruciatingly painful to read the output during coding sessions.

Maybe it’s just good marketing.

I believe Astra is the next model beyond Sol? They used it for https://openai.com/index/ten-advances-in-mathematics/

They can and probably will still be very successful but what they pitched so far is not going to work if their is any meaningful competition not too far behind.

But who knows. VC money allows them to try a lot of stuff before their eventual IPO.

Given the increased pressure from open weight models (still 6 months behind but now more than good enough for most use cases) the frontier labs really have to step up their game.

Switching is as easy as typing /model in most harnesses so there's effectively zero moat.

What’s 4d chess in this?

1. https://xcancel.com/thsottiaux/status/2090675027670978569#m