2 pointsby bko2 hours ago2 comments
  • bko2 hours ago
    People got $1k/m for three years. Looks like they worked less, no change on quality of employment. Spent more time on mostly leisure. More subjective happiness for the first year, and revert to control groups after.

    Pretty much what I expected.

    From the paper:

    > We study the causal impacts of income on a rich array of employment outcomes, leveraging an experiment in which 1,000 low-income individuals were randomized into receiving $1,000 per month unconditionally for three years, with a control group of 2,000 participants receiving $50/month.

    > The transfer caused total individual income excluding the transfers to fall by about $1,900/year relative to the control group and a 4.2 percentage point decrease in labor market participation. Participants reduced their work hours as a result of the transfers by 1-2 hours/week and participants’ partners reduced their work hours by a comparable amount.

    > Among other categories of time use, the greatest increase generated by the transfer was in time spent on leisure. Despite asking detailed questions about amenities, we find no impact on quality of employment, and our confidence intervals can rule out even small improvements.

    > Treated participants broadly increase expenditures, led by spending on non-durable goods and services, with smaller increases in spending on durable goods and human capital. We observe no significant effects on degree attainment, though the magnitudes of the estimated effects generally appear larger among younger participants.

    > Measures of subjective well-being are higher among treated participants in the first year of the transfers but then revert to control group levels. Overall, our results suggest a moderate labor supply effect that does not appear offset by other productive activities.

    • chermi2 hours ago
      That last part is a good reminder just how much we judge things relatively rather than absolutely. Did they say anything about 1-2 years after?

      Edit just say the survey only covered during the payments

  • chermi2 hours ago
    They knew it was ending in 3 years, right? Seems like it would really influence the long-term planning part of it.

    Also they're low income people probably mostly working really hard, of course they need some leisure time. They need a vacation more than most!

    I was hoping to see some positive effect on time spent with kids especially young children. That alone would probably pay for a good chunk of it via future educational attainment.

    • bko2 hours ago
      There's always people that make some excuses.

      It wasn't enough money. It wasn't going to last forever. It wasn't long enough.

      How about throwing money at people doesn't really solve their problems. On the margin, they work a bit less, spend more and revert to some base level of life satisfaction. This is in line with my experience and the experience of everyone I know. I've seen plenty of people 2x, 5x and even 10x their earnings over a decade or so and they're more or less the same. Save the same percent, same level of happiness, etc. Money isn't the solution to everyone's problems.