616 pointsby amatheus8 hours ago44 comments
  • asdfsa326 hours ago
    For Linux, there is https://github.com/pwr-Solaar/Solaar

    But on another note, the genai content on the website is just so distracting and such a bummer. It sticks out like sore thumb.

    • thiht2 hours ago
      > the genai content on the website is just so distracting and such a bummer

      That's harsh. Consider English might not be the author's first language (I see Chinese on the screenshots). Just opening the site I get all the info I need from the text (local first, no account, no telemetry, that's great), install instructions are immediately visible, there are screenshots, even the config file format is one scroll away. This is a great landing page for an open source tool.

      • flexagoon4 minutes ago
        > Consider English might not be the author's first language

        This is clearly LLM-written text, not something that the author asked an LLM to translate from a different language. Not sure how the author's first language is relevant.

        • walrus01a minute ago
          The author may very well be working in Mandarin or something and asked it to create an english language explanation of the project. Then the LLM generated the text based on their request.
      • walrus01an hour ago
        As LLM generated template web GUI go it's relatively inoffensive, at least it's easy to navigate and doesn't waste time with sliders, animated effects, etc. It's just a navbar across the top and then content.

        As far as the page body content goes it seems like LLMs have taken a little bit too enthusiastically to an Apple style presentation of product features.

    • aetherspawn3 hours ago
      This website still would have taken at least a week to make. It’s pretty nice for an open source project website.

      Between no website and shiny but crappy LLM website, I’ll take the latter, and I wouldn’t wish another 2 weeks of unpaid copy writing on any open source dev.

      • trelbutate2 hours ago
        Okay, but how about a shiny LLM website but with human-written text that's actually nice to read and not some unedited AI output? That doesn't take a week.
        • areoform2 hours ago
          Yes, it takes a month or two.

          Depends on the project.

          • flexagoon3 minutes ago
            People manage to write 500 word essays in school in a few days just fine, but writing a website landing page suddenly takes two months?

            According to wordcounter.net, this landing page has 850 words. Most of that is just LLM fluff that could easily be removed, but even if you want to keep the original size, to spend two months on this you have to be writing less than 15 words a day.

        • tidbeck2 hours ago
          For some of us writing good text takes a lot of time and effort.
          • trelbutatean hour ago
            It's just a bit of text for a website that describes what a product does, what features it has, and maybe an FAQ. It shouldn't take you long. For something like this you can even start with LLM text and then rewrite it in your own words and it will sound much better .
            • rswail20 minutes ago
              Having had to edit the documentation from native English speakers in the past, rewriting "in their own words" made it unclear, way too detailed about unnecessary options, and badly formed sentences.

              The average person cannot write good documentation (or website copy). It's an actual skill to learn how to phrase things, ensure that the documentation delivers the right level of detail to the different reader types etc.

              As English writers, software developers make great programmers, not authors.

          • ramon1562 hours ago
            Then throw https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing into your context and call it a day. there is no excuse for not proof-reading what you expect others to read.
          • hk__2an hour ago
            If you never take the time, of course it will always be a lot of effort. But with experience it’ll take less time and effort.
      • KennyBlanken3 hours ago
        Except "website made by LLM" almost invariably means the software was "written" by an LLM too, and thus is likely full of security vulnerabilities, bugs, and so on. It may also mean that github issues are being reviewed by an AI, which opens the door up to the AI to malicious prompting.
        • colinban hour ago
          I think I strongly disagree with your first sentence. Strongly. I've worked with enough people with fine coding skills and terrible English to know that the two are not an uncommon combination. Last year, I worked with someone whose first language was something from China - no idea which flavour - and they would often pass their written comms through an LLM. I could tell when they had done so by the onset of sudden grammatical correctness. But I don't think they were doing this with the intention of deceiving, merely of communicating clearly and correctly.

          Now, I often find Claude's idea of idiomatic prose to be a bit load-bearingly seam-hitting as it lands not this point, but THAT one, but it is probably better than something hacked out by a person who confuses tenses, cases, pronouns and when they can enverb a noun. So I tend towards giving people the benefit of the doubt on this.

          Lastly, if you think LLM-written software is full of security vulnerabilities and bugs, I have terrible news for you about the state of human-written code. The fact that what we do is often better than nothing at all, is no big recommendation.

        • mastermage2 hours ago
          Dumb question but its because I genuinely do not know better. What is the security risk of what is as far as i understand a mouse driver with config options?
          • mzronek2 hours ago
            For downloadable software there is the risk of a supply chain attack. The website is altered to provide a download with a malware-infected version of the software.

            See the recent hack on CPU-Z: https://gist.github.com/N3mes1s/b5b0b96782b9f832819d2db7c668...

            • deadbunny39 minutes ago
              That's a problem wether AI is involved or not.
          • nobrains2 hours ago
            a mouse is an input device. most security challenges (passwords, etc.) are input via input devices. those are at a risk of being compromised. also clicks on an on-screen keyboard, etc. in fact, if u think about it, input device data (also know as telemetry - ironically, what we are trying to prevent in the first place by the logi app to do) security is a very serious potential attack vector.
        • soulofmischief2 hours ago
          Right you are, Ken. With the amount of new low-effort software we can expect to see over the next decade, taste becomes a hallmark.
    • _3455 hours ago
      Yeah even if the software is good there's just something sad about realizing you're reading AI generated text. Even if its proofread and factually correct it just comes across as cheap and low effort, moreso when the content gets duplicated in a pointless FAQ that just restates everything you just read
      • dmos623 hours ago
        > Comes across cheap

        Given this is open-source, have you considered contributing a more expensive-feeling landing page? Or, donating to finance the project?

        • idle_zealot2 hours ago
          I would rather it feel dev-cheap than corpo-cheap. Throw your MD doc into a basic CSS reset/theme, with a github and download link.
      • lucumo28 minutes ago
        > Even if its proofread and factually correct it just comes across as cheap and low effort

        That's exactly how I feel about people using Eastpaks instead of Louis Vuitton. Just yuck.

        And with polos. If you're not wearing Ralph Lauren, you're not worth talking to.

      • aleksandrm4 hours ago
        >Even if its proofread and factually correct it just comes across as cheap and low effort

        How so?

        • layer8an hour ago
          Because it is cheap and low effort.
        • Hendriktoan hour ago
          It indicates that the author likes to take shortcuts and avoid work.
        • Anoian4 hours ago
          It just feels hollow and cheap.
          • karolist4 hours ago
            The FAQ technique is LLM/SEO crumbs because people usually search for questions, if you have the exact likely question text that maps to user's search you're more likely to rank. It's unfortunate but it works, like open mouth YouTube thumbnails.
            • ruszki3 hours ago
              It’s still hollow and cheap. I closed those sites immediately even before LLMs. You need to pay me to waste my time, not the other way around. Even if that’s using your then not-so-free app.
              • cpinto3 hours ago
                That’s not feedback, just a non-constructive opinion. As someone else wrote above, if you’re so precious about it then help out the devs of the project and submit design PRs.
                • asdfsa322 hours ago
                  This is absurd. No one has an obligation to help anyone nor do they owe you any standard of help. Opinion on quality of output is constructive to the wise and an opportunity to scream "If you can do better than do it" for the small minded.
    • maybewhenthesun2 hours ago
      I reads like a corporate driver page. I'd much prefer a simple git repo with a readme.md
      • thihtan hour ago
        The GitHub repo is literally one click away, the GitHub link is at the top right as usual
    • erichdongubleran hour ago
      It seems the project is actually aware of this:

      > Quit Logi Options+ before launching: the two fight over HID++ access, and only one app can own a receiver at a time. On Linux, the same applies to Solaar.

    • WD-425 hours ago
      Solaar is fantastic software. Not worth replacing with slop even if the slop looks shiny.
      • jdboyd2 hours ago
        This support Windows and macOS in addition to Linux. I'm not in a hurry to disrupt things on my Linux machine, but I might just have to try this on the other platforms.

        While it does look extremely likely that AI is used for the copy writing, and probably for some of the code maintenance, I'm not convinced that this is being vibe coded.

      • asdfsa324 hours ago
        Yeah, I have been using Solaar for many years now, solid piece of software.
  • frevib2 hours ago
    Great effort, thanks for that.

    But do we still trust the open source software that is created now everything is vibe coded?

    Recently there was a thread about Chatto [1], a Slack replacement completely vibe coded by one person. It works and looks nice. But looking at the code, I wouldn’t trust any of my personal information to it. It’s just tousands of lines of skills and vague instructions. It seems that trust in OSS is eroding and big SaaS might win here because they have the reputation.

    [1] https://github.com/chattocorp/chatto

    • xaitvan hour ago
      I judge it on a case-by-case basis by just looking at a few recent commits and the feel of clicking a few files in the repo. For OpenLogi I get the wrong type of vibe code vibes and at the very least that means the project might become an unmaintainable mess in a year and that means I don't want to come to rely on it. At worst it means security vulnerabilities.

      That being said: I wouldn't really trust SaaS to not be vibe-coded either. The only difference there is that SaaS likely has a financial incentive to stay maintainable so you could argue that helps.

    • miguelbemartin2 hours ago
      I believe it varies; since it's merely a productivity tool, why not use it? However, if it's essential software that your business relies on, probably not.
    • ruuda2 hours ago
      What makes you think big SaaS is not vibecoded?
      • maybewhenthesun2 hours ago
        What makes you think we trust big SaaS :-P
      • whstlan hour ago
        Good point, but big SaaS is more often than not running on their own servers, it’s not local and certainly not a driver/driver-adjacent, which has more privileges than anything else.
    • realharo2 hours ago
      On the other hand, it's also much less effort to do at least some rudimentary review.

      Or make a fork with only the minimim set of parts that your agent cherry picks.

    • make_it_sure2 hours ago
      write code by hand then
    • m00dy36 minutes ago
      great effort ? bro just sniff the traffic and feed into Claude.
    • zmmmmman hour ago
      > But do we still trust the open source software that is created now everything is vibe coded?

      I guess my question is, why would you trust it when it is not vibe coded?

      My suggestion is, have an AI review the code for you.

    • movedx2 hours ago
      Code is simply math. It either works or it does not. Does your calculator work? Then use it. Does your AI agent of choice produce code that works? Then use it.

      Or don't. It's up to you. You're as free to walk away as you are to embrace what's been made here.

      • dgellow2 hours ago
        Math isn’t known to rm -rf your drive or exfiltrate your private keys and secrets
      • whstl2 hours ago
        This is dangerous advice on so many levels.

        “Is math” and “Either works or not” is only true with formal specifications and formal verification, which dwarfs the cost of producing said software.

      • _under_scores_2 hours ago
        This is a bit of an uncharitable take. "It either works or it does not" is an oversimplification when you consider that code often doesn't work in the way it was intended - that's what bugs are. Are vibe coded apps inherently more buggy? Not necessarily. But the I'd argue there's more surface in a vibe coded app that requires blind trust.
      • Citizen_Lame2 hours ago
        Not really, something can work and be full of security holes.
  • jsalama5 hours ago
    Good to see open source alternatives to the awful Logitech software. I only realized how bad the Logitech software is after switching from a G502 with on-board memory to an MX Master mouse that does not have on-board memory and needs to have the app constantly running in the background to use the gestures. Personally I've been using BetterMouse on macOS with my MX Master, although it's not open source.
  • armadyl6 hours ago
    In case it’s not known, Logitech does offer an offline version of Options+ meant for air gapped and more secured systems:

    https://support.logi.com/hc/change_language/en-in?return_to=...

    • tech234a6 hours ago
      Logitech's offline installer is 1.2GB. This application's installer is 15.3MB.
      • aappleby5 hours ago
        You want "Onboard Memory Manager", which is 12 megs.
        • aobdev5 hours ago
          That only works with "G" brand gaming devices. Their entire MX line does not allow you to store customizations in onboard memory.
          • literallywho2 hours ago
            I have a "G" series 512 keyboard. And it seemingly can't save anything into the memory (on windows I had to use the logitech's bloatware). And the absolute worst part is that it is set to RGB colors moving around by default, so I've been running openrgb every OS boot to set the lights to a neutral, non-flashing, much much less intensive color. Happy to see alternatives to that.
          • pletnes3 hours ago
            This is so nuts. It’s literally a multi device mouse - supports 3 bluetooth connections in memory, but I need to install the options app on every single pc/mac I want to use it on. Nuts!
    • bigmattystyles5 hours ago
      Seems nuts that you would go through the trouble of air gapping a system then use a Bluetooth keyboard.
    • gohanlon5 hours ago
      I maintain a homebrew tap for the offline Options+: https://github.com/gohanlon/homebrew-tap

      The tap includes a GH action to track upstream releases (as long as I notice the PR!). Also, the offline version only compensates for some of the issues with Options+.

    • maybewhenthesun2 hours ago
      It's a sad state of affairs that a mouse settings program isn't 'offline' by default. Except maybe an update check it has zero needs to be online.
  • demibabs6 hours ago
    Cool project, but I hate how every new site has this obviously LLM generated copy :( I feel like most people who use it for their copy don’t realize how obvious it is.
    • breznev6 hours ago
      Oh it’s not just the site—the app is obviously LLM generated too and feels like it. I gave up and went back to Mos within 20 minutes.
      • transitorykris6 hours ago
        At this point we should be sharing prompts not code for solutions like OpenLogi. Reverse engineering many things can typically be one-shotted (ignoring things like.. capturing a pcap or whatever to aid the effort). Let others add their own taste to the solution.
        • _3455 hours ago
          Isn't it wasteful to have everyone go off and remake the same software with slightly different bugs in it instead of one that fixes almost all of the bugs
          • Barbing3 hours ago
            Terribly wasteful, yes, though perhaps if the idea caught on the major labs could stand some chance of long-term profitability.
          • seaal4 hours ago
            Seriously, I wonder how many tokens are generated (wasted) every day on someone recreating another agent memory, context management, code graph, etc.

            I can’t wait until Qwen 4.5 27B or Gemma 5.

        • al_borland3 hours ago
          It then becomes a roll of the dice if someone ends up with working software.
        • dgellowan hour ago
          Please no, I couldn’t care about your prompts, there is nothing special about them. Anyone can look at the generated artifact and reverse engineer their own prompt in no time
    • SubNoize2 hours ago
      Does it matter? People get caught up on LLM this and sure, a professional beats an LLM currently but I'd rather read some well written LLM text over some poorly written human effort
      • Gigachad2 hours ago
        If it matters is subjective. But personally I stop reading when I notice it’s AI text because there is never anything in it worth reading. It’s just a prompt expanded in to paragraphs of filler text.

        This kind of tool doesn’t need a whole Apple style marketing page to sell you on it.

        It also signals effort to me, when I see vibeslop text I know the project most likely is a one shot weekend project full of issues which won’t be resolved. I’ve seen good examples of AI use in open source, and those projects write the readme and website copy without AI.

      • dgellow2 hours ago
        Your LLM text is obviously not well written if we spot it after 2 seconds. I won’t read it, doesn’t matter how beautiful it is, it’s just pure cringe, I notice, roll my eyes, close the tab. Please give me the poorly written human effort. Is it really that hard to spend 10minutes reading what you produced to see if that feels genuine?
      • demibabs2 hours ago
        It matters to me because I notice and I hate it.

        I read plenty of not-obviously-AI-generated text and I much prefer doing that, even if it’s not from a professional.

        It’s not about the quality of the text itself. If Claude was one person with a human level of output, Claude would probably be considered decent at writing.

        But when I have to read the same genre of slop on 1 million different sites it gets really really annoying imo.

      • Hendriktoan hour ago
        > I'd rather read some well written LLM text over some poorly written human effort

        I could not disagree more.

    • ch4s36 hours ago
      People realize, but writing good technical prose is hard and a separate skill.
      • demibabs6 hours ago
        I don’t think it’s that hard; it just takes effort. And the effort is well worth it.
        • Tallain5 hours ago
          It's not that hard if you put in the effort and practice.

          But if you don't want to and still want to use an LLM, there are low-bar choices you can make (using a technical writing skill, using ASD-STE100 Simplified Technical English, choosing your audience, proofreading at the end with human eyes to make sure it makes sense and doesn't repeat itself uselessly).

          I think it shows either a) low respect or consideration for your audience or yourself, or b) laziness.

          Trust yourself to write even if it's bad. At least it's human.

        • earth-tattoo3 hours ago
          What is the point of spending so much effort if some people are still going to call it LLM slop?
          • demibabs2 hours ago
            Huh? Bad human writers don’t write like LLMs, at all.
      • layer8an hour ago
        Most worthwhile things are hard without a bit of practice.
      • andsoitis4 hours ago
        > writing good technical prose is hard and a separate skill.

        Hard things are hard. They’re not easy. But they’re worth it.

      • dawnerd6 hours ago
        There's good technical prose on the site? It's all just fluff marketing that adds nothing.
    • z3n0n6 hours ago
      it's pretty much "load bearing" at this point.
  • yuhao2dai6 hours ago
    Looks like someone stole LinearMouse's code and vibed it better . https://linearmouse.app/zh-CN/
    • moontear3 hours ago
      The code is right here: https://github.com/AprilNEA/OpenLogi

      What makes you say this is stolen from LinearMouse?

    • westoque5 hours ago
      i can see the resemblence and that's what separates the more marketable app.
    • asdfsa325 hours ago
      You can't vibe things better. You vibe them shinny, but often make them worst.
      • genxy4 hours ago
        Even the screenshot in the readme has a button in Chinese in a sea of english.
      • TeMPOraL3 hours ago
        Sure you can. Code vibed with a SOTA model is better than mean programmer output, has been for at least a good year now.
        • asdfsa323 hours ago
          It is possible that your impression of mean is actually well bellow mean. SOTA models are still as good as the programmer using them, at best.
          • bonesss2 hours ago
            I have a sneaking suspicion that if everyone proffering an LLM coding opinion stated their languages and area of focus/expertise we’d all be in a lot more agreement about the output…

            Example 1: “as a JavaScript front-end developer working with React and node, I think LLMs save 500 hours a week and are better than anyone on our team.” <— easy to believe

            Example 2: “as a backend Erlang developer working on life-critical systems the inconsistent output makes LLMs dangerous and the code is tidy but terrible at scale.” <— fully congruent with the first example

            • ben_w2 hours ago
              Mm.

              As an iOS developer, I have yet to see two different teams agree on best practices, architecture, or code style, and the only reason I've seen anyone agree on UI frameworks is that I've been in slightly more teams/seen more ads than there even are widely-used UI frameworks; and despite all the big promises in the job adverts, 95% of the work has been to take someone else's existing UI design and connect it to someone else's existing API.

              LLMs fit right in.

              (Unlike me: I'm burned out by iOS and LLMs came at exactly the right time).

            • trelbutate2 hours ago
              Yeah, that's what I think every time I read some discussion online about AI coding assistants. Programming is such a wide field with presence in so many different industries, with all sorts of languages and environments, and many people seem to forget that not everything is webdev. You see one person saying they barely need to code by hand anymore and another who can't believe that because their experience has been the complete opposite, when they're probably both right.
            • asdfsa322 hours ago
              Even Example 1 works in a much narrower scope, in that you need to have a decent working setup and all the rails like a good AGENTS file and so on.

              The point is that "Vibing" still does not produce worthy output.

  • vulkoingim2 hours ago
    For a while now BetterTouchTool [0] supports Logitech mice [1]. It's paid, but it's absolutely worth its price. It's super powerful and you can do all kinds of funky stuff with it, not only mouse related. I would suggest looking into it if you want more advanced features, I've been a very happy user for many years now.

    [0] https://folivora.ai

    [1] https://docs.folivora.ai/docs/normal-mouse/logitech

    • keybitsan hour ago
      There's also BetterMouse for macOS. I use it with a Logitech mouse and it works very well. https://better-mouse.com/

      I'm curious if OpenLogi might be better. Despite the vibecoding accusations here, it has 55 contributors, is open source and seems well designed.

      • vulkoingiman hour ago
        I used to use it (better mouse) before BTT added Logitech support - but wasn't really happy with it. Every single update changed something, mostly my cursor speed in some small, but sufficiently noticeable way and I had to adjust it every time, which was super annoying.

        At some point my settings kept getting lost every time my mac went to sleep, and I had to restart the app all the time. I messaged the developer, but never received any response or acknowledgement and I just dropped it. It's a pity, because I did like it for a period of time while I was initially using it.

    • HSO2 hours ago
      BetterTouchTool is on my list of things to look into for a long time.

      Was not aware it is even possible to replace the shitty logitech surveillance software. thanks for the tip!

      Can you give maybe an example of a `funky stuff` for the mouse, like those touchpad gestures? i cant think of any, just to get an idea

      • vulkoingiman hour ago
        The one thing I use the most, and how I found it in the first place is that it allows me to combine key presses with mouse gestures/movements. In particular it allows me to move/resize the windows under the cursor just by pressing a key combination and moving my mouse. Many many years ago I used to use AutoHotkey on Windows for this functionality and was missing it when I switched to Mac.

        Another thing I've configured is scrolling through a key press and dragging the mouse. Or opening a floating menu by using the thumb button on my MX Master3.

        And that's only mouse functions, I have a bunch of other shortcuts/remappings/automations, many of which run only for specific apps.

        Have a look in the forum - it's a gold mine and a lot of people have shared their presets.

    • cianmm2 hours ago
      I've had a paid licence for it for many years but I have ended up shying away from using it because the UI is just so cumbersome. An incredibly powerful piece of software though.
      • vulkoingim2 hours ago
        Get an LLM to generate a preset for what you want - it's ultimately driven by a json config. There are quite a few presets in the forum as well for various functions
  • hypfer3 hours ago
    Good morning HN. Hope you're enjoying your daily dose of claudeslop app.

    See you all tomorrow when we do it all over again.

    • WithinReason3 hours ago
      You use a coding agent to make and app? Straight to jail. Language server? Jail. Syntax highlighting? Believe it or not, jail.
      • fosronan hour ago
        Im reading the comments here and most of them are regarding what AI did, what AI didnt and not much about the apps functionality, which is lameeee
        • hypferan hour ago
          That's because - given the flashy page and branding and all - it's irrelevant.

          The thing is not about code or solving a problem, and we also shouldn't be pretending that it is, because that is what slop, grifters and businesspeople bank on.

          Also, you can be sure that the features that do exist are half-baked at best, given that any person with eyes can see that the priorities lie elsewhere.

      • hypfer3 hours ago
        Yes, that is what I meant.

        Go use echo to write your code, otherwise you're not a real coder.

  • Abishek_Muthianan hour ago
    One of the main features of Logi Options + is the plugins which this application doesn't seem to support; you can load it locally or from their marketplace[1].

    I myself have an accessibility related plugin to make clicking easier [2] built using their Logi Actions SDK. It finds the clickable elements near the cursor and displays them in the Actions Ring and the LCD keypad. If you have the Logi Dialpad then you can have a complete mouse free workflow with Access Ring.

    [1] https://marketplace.logi.com/plugins/

    [2] https://abishekmuthian.com/pages/access-ring/

  • vermonan hour ago
    I tried to switch to Mouser, but it leaked memory like crazy, taking sometimes tens of GB of RAM so I just vibed a replacement based on my very specific needs.

    It takes 3.5MB of RAM currently.

    • fosronan hour ago
      Mouser is so bad at leaking memory i had to go back to Logi Options+ on my Mac...
  • wlesieutre6 hours ago
    It's not open source but I have to shout out Steermouse which has been replacing Logitech's awful Mac software for ~25 years

    https://www.plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/download.php

    • kstrauser6 hours ago
      This is my favorite. It Just Works with every mouse I throw at it and supports a ludicrous amount of button customization.
    • dima555 hours ago
      Not being open source is the thing that the program in the article fixes. You want the goal of the software-writer to be producing a good tool, not using the software as a means to turn a profit. That's how you get the turd being replaced by the tool in the article
  • sgt2 hours ago
    I'm always terrified of Bluetooth mice. I've never seen one with the same low latency as a USB mouse. The difference is sometimes subtle, but it's there.
    • friendzis2 hours ago
      Typically the wireless mice connect over noon-bluetooth wireless protocols and offer bluetooth as fallback, if at all.

      Click-to-screen latency is a combination of reporting rate, polling rate and latency within the software stack. Default USB HID polling rate is 125Hz so if you don't do anything extra on top this is what you get anyway. Even higher grade "office" mice offer higher reporting rates than that, "gaming" mice can easily be 1 kHz.

    • szszrk2 hours ago
      I always thought this is a rule of thumb, but then I learned that wireless gamepads for popular consoles (back then it was PS3/PS4 era) don't really follow that pattern. I came across multiple tests where older wireless PS controllers and xbox controllers were consistently more responsive in practice.

      For modern ones there are some cool posts like this one [1], where most of the time there "were no statistically significant difference", or even wireless was more responsive.

      Gamepads always impressed me - they can deliver insanely good response times while streaming high quality audio with no lag. I never found other BT accessories for phones/computers that were even close to that smooth experience.

      [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/PS5/comments/m020e3/dualsense_wired...

    • Bishonen882 hours ago
      For pro gaming perhaps the difference would make the slightest difference. For casuals, let alone office workers, the difference is 0 (writing this with a mx master 4 next to me).

      Saying this as someone who has tried dozens of mice in my life. Last corded-one, bought for my son yesterday (razer cobra minecraft edition). I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference between wired and wireless in a blind test.

    • tonyhart72 hours ago
      or you can just use wifi dongle one

      there is no reason not to, even pro player in esports is using wireless mouse

      the technology is there even for top 1%

      • freehorse3 minutes ago
        Dongles are indeed not perceivably different than wired in principle. However, you may have more latency variability, or even unstable connectivity, depending on what adjacent usb ports are doing, due to interference [0].

        I have had cases where dongles were practically unusable in my setup, up to completely losing connectivity when transferring data through an adjacent port.

        [0] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/content-details/8416...

  • Copenjin32 minutes ago
    Does something like this exists for the keyboards too? (have one of those in its box due to bad software...)
  • Labo3334 hours ago
    Nice!

    I'm not sure this supports G502 as it's supposed to be controlled by Logitech G HUB.

    Anyway, if you want a CLI replacement for G HUB, I played a bit with opengcontrol [1] to support my new G502 using Claude Code. I wrote a short blog post about it as well [2]. I even got a battery indicator for my menu bar.

    [1]: https://github.com/kasik96/opengcontrol

    [2]: https://louisabraham.github.io/articles/clawd-grip

  • andsoitis7 hours ago
    Love my Logitech mouse, keyboard, and webcam. Their software not in the same league as their hardware.
    • catskull5 hours ago
      I once heard a story about an old Logitech webcam driver in windows. Once it was installed, it would always scan for the webcam and if it wasn’t detected it would write to an error log. So if you set up the webcam once and then got rid of it without uninstalling the driver it would always dump logs upon logs. Eventually a user had their entire disk space filled and when they dug into it they found a single tens or hundreds of GB log file. Uninstalling the driver fixed it.
    • KennyBlanken2 hours ago
      You love having to replace your mouse regularly because Logitech intentionally uses shit switches to force people to keep buying their products?
  • robertlutece3 hours ago
    I tried it for about a month, but I was having several issues whereby the scroll direction kept inverting, the thumb button not sticking to its program, and smartshift not triggering when scrolling. In the end I regrettably went back to logi options+.
  • bkovacevan hour ago
    This is awesome! Thank you so much for great work! I love it, I wasn't even aware of the actions ring! Off-topic - does anyone know if something like this exists for Keychron keyboards?
  • patrickk2 hours ago
    Before clicking, I thought this might be a reverse engineering attempt of the Logitech Harmony series of universal remotes, which have been discontinued but do still work, albeit cloud tethered for updates. There’s still a strong demand for this in the home automation space, if you read forums on the topic. Oh well, hopefully there’s a few more years in my Harmony Hub and Elite.
  • eXpl0it3r3 hours ago
    If the device renderings are fetched from assets.openlogi.org, it's technically not telemetry free, though I guess we can trust the author to not track every call?
  • throwaw122 hours ago
    How comfortable is using mouse in Mac?

    Sometime ago when I tried using mouse, it felt unnatural in Mac OS. No pinch to zoom, no changing desktops by swiping with multitouch and so on.

    • thihtan hour ago
      I use the Master MX 3s specifically because of the "gestures" button, it was mandatory for me to replace using the trackpad. It's basically a thumb button you can press and combine with a mouse gesture to do the same thing as finger gestures on the trackpad. I mainly use the gestures left/right (to switch between full screen apps/main dektop) and up (mission control) but it's all configurable. It also has an horizontal scroll wheel that's very useful when using Excel or DB viewers.
    • ilogik2 hours ago
      I much prefer a mouse (I use the MX Vertical) to a trackpad for long periods of time at my desk.

      Cmd+Scroll for zoom in/out, Ctrl+Left/Right arrows to switch spaces. It's not a fun as the trackpad, but those are things i don't do that often.

  • matt_daemon4 hours ago
    Very basic flow of adding a device connected via Bluetooth seems broken. Would love this to work but think it needs a few more months development.
  • p2hari3 hours ago
    The latest LogiOptions plus is a nightmare and I was really happy to see this. However, looking at comments I have now found one more alternative which I had not heard of. Thanks HN. I also have installed karabiner elements for some of the mouse remapping.
  • vivzkestrel5 hours ago
    - stupid question: what exactly does this do and why do I need it?
    • aobdev5 hours ago
      Logitech mice and keyboards have extra features that the OS would consider non-standard; you can customize a lot of behaviors as well as map extra buttons to specific actions. For some reason, Logitech decided not to store customization settings on-device so there is a background daemon that must run on the host. Also inexplicably, it is an electron app with a 600MB install footprint requiring online connectivity (apparently there's also an offline version, weighing in at 1.2GB). Also not available on Linux.
      • andsoitis4 hours ago
        > Also inexplicably, it is an electron app

        No need to be modest! You can explain it!

    • Gigachad2 hours ago
      You usually don’t _need_ it but there are a couple things you can’t do without it. Pairing a mouse/kb to their usb receiver for example is not possible without it.
  • Peacefulz2 hours ago
    Finally. I've been stuck with my onboard selections for a year now due to lack of motivation to deal with windows. Definitely gonna be checking this out.
  • deanc3 hours ago
    Never heard of Logitech options, have just had G Hub installed for ages (and had a huge number of problems with it on MacOS when I first got the G502 lightspeed 3y ago).
    • tancop2 hours ago
      Looks like this is for the "Logi" high end office series. They use different software for some reason, I guess Logitech thinks their customers don't want to see anything gaming related in their app because it looks unprofessional.
  • RayVR2 hours ago
    This is different from the Mouser open source app for Logitech?
  • maxehmookau32 minutes ago
    I've always been a fan of BetterMouse: https://better-mouse.com/

    Either way, anything that isn't the stock Logitech software is going to be an improvement.

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  • parasti2 hours ago
    The header doesn't fit on mobile. Teach your agent to use Playwright MCP.
  • boguscoder4 hours ago
    Name leaves me optimistic it could support keyboards in future
  • corv5 hours ago
    I've been using Mouser but it keeps crashing on MacOS 27 beta for me and at 500MB+ of memory use it appears to be approaching the official app's heaviness...

    So this appeared at just the right moment for me, thanks!

  • Alien1Beingan hour ago
    AI;DR (AI; Didn’t Read)
  • neutrinoliu2 hours ago
    life saver. still remember the days when damn options+ update makes all the master 3 broken on the internet.
  • small_model2 hours ago
    Not used a mouse for years, trackpad on 15 MacBook M4 Air is 100x better for my type of work.
    • Otekan hour ago
      Always this type of guy will spawn in any HN thread > Logitech Mouse software > bUt I dOnT usE mOusE foR yEArs
      • small_model38 minutes ago
        Not allowed an opinion what is this The Soviet Union?
        • layer824 minutes ago
          That you haven’t used a mouse for years is (presumably) a fact, not an opinion. But what’s your point in stating that in this thread? Obviously mouse users nowadays are aware that there are people who prefer trackpads.
  • geuis4 hours ago
    Fast download for me. But immediately denied. Doesn't run on Mac intel hardware.
    • thihtan hour ago
      Well... yeah, at this point you can stop expecting pre-build binaries of new softwares for pre-ARM Macs
  • sandeepkd5 hours ago
    In case author is here, Under resources tab at the footer, Introduction anchor is not in english
  • arajnoha2 hours ago
    generic ai landing page = close the tab
  • zuzululu2 hours ago
    justneed this for anker mouse
  • mistercheph2 hours ago
    cant stop the slop
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    • boomlinde2 hours ago
      Can someone kill this chatbot account?
  • cmclaughlin5 hours ago
    Nice job on the app and the website. It looks really good.