72 pointsby DeepLogin2 hours ago10 comments
  • hn_submit8 minutes ago
    These patents are completely worthless. These glasses will never become socially acceptable and certainly not when they're coming from Meta, a known privacy thrasher/intruder/molester/rapist/violator.
    • globalnode2 minutes ago
      saw an ad today for some ear pieces that look like audio speakers but theyre actually cameras as well, so it seems manufacturers realise glasses will annoy people but arent giving up.
  • mrweasel35 minutes ago
    Currently there's a massive, and understandable, backlash against the Meta/Ray-Ban glasses, but I can't understand how it's not absolutely destroying the Ray-Ban brand?

    Influencers and stores are damaging their brands by selling or advertising the glasses, but Ray-Ban seems to go completely free.

    I do wonder if we're just moving to shun people wearing glasses with heavy frames in the near future. The glass only seems to appeal to a certain type of people anyway.

    • andsoitisa few seconds ago
      > I do wonder if we're just moving to shun people wearing glasses with heavy frames in the near future. The glass only seems to appeal to a certain type of people anyway.

      That's ridiculous.

    • pj_mukh16 minutes ago
      >> "The glass only seems to appeal to a certain type of people anyway."

      What type of people is that? I am just a dad who has them and films his kids doing cute things without making the phone camera an ever present intrusion while outdoors.

      It's fine, it's Meta, suspicion is warranted, but I'm hoping it can be moderated and directed. People like me are kind of left out right now in what seems to be a runaway narrative.

    • rapnie14 minutes ago
      Anecdotal but I hear quite a few people talk negative about Ray-Ban related to the backlash. They are the "pervert glasses" brand now. I think there definitely is reputation damage. Also the "banray" [0] campaign for my country is doing well I think (I regularly see their stickers), and this name reversal may also harm the brand if it sticks.

      [0] https://banray.eu/en/

    • Jcowell25 minutes ago
      Penalty because it’s based on what people think when they see them. They don’t say Meta Raybands but just Meta glasses. If influential people were to start saying the former enough that it becomes then martins. Also is the question of do other Rayband glasses look like it. If this line is distinct enough than it won’t harm other lines since the visual association isn’t made.
    • summermusic15 minutes ago
      It's especially frustrating because the Ray-Ban logo no longer indicates quality or exclusivity: They were acquired by Luxottica Group in 1999.
    • dimitrios115 minutes ago
      Luxottica, the owners of Ray-Ban since 1999, realized after they survived the expose on their blatant monopolistic price gouging that none of this sticks. People just see something they recognize and go with it.
  • lapkaaaaan hour ago
    Portable Flock camera here we go
    • classified27 minutes ago
      Government agencies love this stuff. Everything that's illegal for them to do (just in case they still care), Meta does it for them.
      • kyleee13 minutes ago
        Like ring doorbell surveillance network
  • alasr41 minutes ago
    FB in meat-space: see, for reference, page# 11 of the Meta's patent - https://image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloa...
  • clickety_clack43 minutes ago
    And people are paying meta for the privilege of putting these on their own faces?
    • classified23 minutes ago
      You're buying supporter status in the National Surveillance Effort. Seats in patriot heaven don't come for free.
  • foucan hour ago
    in the future, everyone's glasses will have automatic recording of people.

    in the future, everyone's automatic recording of people will be fully accessible to all.

    in the future, everyone's glasses will also be AR glasses, enabling everyone to view everyone else's POV at any time.

    in the future there will be no privacy, because everyone will be able to watch everyone else.

    • KaiserPro37 minutes ago
      Yes, but also no.

      A longer argument can be put here: https://www.secretbatcave.co.uk/software/we-need-to-talk-abo...

      Its perfectly possible that AR glasses could be _more_ privacy preserving than mobile phones. THe problem is, either the market needs to make it financially advantageous to be privacy preserving (yes I can hear the laughing from here) or the legal mechanism by which the end user can request damages from either the user of the glasses, or the maker ofthe glasses, or both.

    • Tepix26 minutes ago
      Luckily, the future isn't set in stone. I see a ton of skepticism towards this surveillance tech.
    • 43 minutes ago
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    • classified22 minutes ago
      But some are everyone-er than others.
    • tcp_handshaker41 minutes ago
      >> in the future there will be no privacy, because everyone will be able to watch everyone else.

      "Mark Zuckerberg spends $30 million on four homes to ensure privacy" - https://www.nbcnews.com/businessmain/mark-zuckerberg-spends-...

    • cobertos43 minutes ago
      Fully accessible to all? Not when there's money to be made by putting it behind a paywall. Unless it's served with ads I guess.
    • black6an hour ago
      3GC
  • throwaway2027an hour ago
    • classified21 minutes ago
      That series was prescient.
  • some_furry13 minutes ago
    Every time Meta does something, it makes me yearn for the day they lose that $1.4 Trillion lawsuit and declare bankruptcy.
  • teunispetersan hour ago
    and how is this distinct from a security camera with OpenCV? (I am curious. Mind, not a field I'm very interested in these days)
    • KaiserPro41 minutes ago
      Technically quite a big difference.

      I'm not sure what part of meta delevoped that, I can't find those names in linkedin. I vaguely recognise one name but can't be sure about it.

      In meta, there are a number of research teams, SOme are pure hardware, although they are less now, some are software and some are about specific modes of interaction. Ie agios is about touch, opals are about displays (assuming they exist anymore) surreal is about visual understanding and graphics is well, graphics.

      Surreal built a "ego centric" platform, ie research perv glasses. They are quite capable https://www.projectaria.com/

      Recording data is easy, processing and making that data usable, within the power budget is hard.

      On the face of this, its trivially simple to do. Just record all that video and sound, do some STT facial recogntion and location extraction and jobs a goodun.

      Doing it with a total power envelope of <500mwhrs is the hard part.

      However, in terms or problems. These glasses have the ability to precisly locate the wearer. By inference it can locate anything it can see. If you have more than one wearer, you can locate lots of objects/people in real time.

      This means that you can trivially map people's movments,s thoughts and actions in more or less real time.

      Great for advertising, great for visually impaired, shit for everyone else.

    • buellerbuelleran hour ago
      Security cameras generally don't change their location.
    • lenerdenatoran hour ago
      The massive database it's connected to, the government's awareness of said database, and the government's intentions regarding the database.
  • tsukikagean hour ago
    We should take a minute to understand that the current lawsuits are pushing, hard, for this. Whether or not Meta also want to do spying thing for their own purposes, we are forcing them to roll this shit out when we declare it's not enough for a user to tell a social media service their age, the social media site needs to be /certain/ and make a big database of their proof.

    The world that results may be exactly what we want, IDK. It's just be nice if we could decide, collectively, one way or the other, then be deliberate about it.

    • altcognitoan hour ago
      "Current lawsuits are pushing for universal recording because we require users to tell us their age" is a weird argument.
      • tsukikagean hour ago
        Facebook already requires users to tell them their age, and already mandates minimum ages for users in their T&Cs. Recent and current lawsuits establish that /this is not enough/. Hence, mandatory age checks involving some combination of government ID and face recording, and a big database proving you've done that so you don't get fined when kids get on your platform.

        We're literally about to require Meta to prohibit the creation of multiple accounts. Their T&Cs already prohibit that, so what we're saying is that just asking is not enough - we are demanding it is enforced. What we ask for, we get.

        • edgyquant30 minutes ago
          None of that is related to recording people without their consent