177 pointsby galnagli4 hours ago17 comments
  • inahga2 hours ago
    I probably would have made the same mistake. It is negligent to write GitHub Actions without using static analysis.

    Use zizmor in CI https://github.com/zizmorcore/zizmor

        error[template-injection]: code injection via template expansion
          --> .github/workflows/jira_issue.yml:24:29
           |
        22 |         run: |
           |         --- this run block
        23 |           # Escape special characters in title and body
        24 |           TITLE=$(echo '${{ github.event.issue.title }}' | sed 's/"/\\"/g' | sed "s/'/\\\'/g")
           |                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ may expand into attacker-controllable code
           |
           = note: audit confidence → High
           = note: this finding has an auto-fix
    • btown2 hours ago
      This is a really cool tool! Would zizmor have caught the below as well? From the article:

      > The workflow had an if: condition that appeared protective:

      > if: (github.event_name == 'issues' && github.event.pull_request.user.login != 'whitesource-for-github-com[bot]')

      > However, on issues events, github.event.pull_request is always null. So the condition reduces to (null != 'whitesource-for-github-com[bot]'). This is always true, and every GitHub user passes the gate.

      Speaking broadly: it's a massive reminder that AI is trained on a veritable mountain of insecure GitHub Actions examples, many of which "fail open" in highly unpredictable ways even if widely used. Actions is almost unique in this regard, with the combination of a difficult-to-audit language and the type of privileged RCE environment that makes attackers salivate.

      (I do think that this stems in part from GitHub's often-inscrutable documentation, and a decision to release Actions without a robust security linting solution, leaving that to the community - but I do understand how it's an uphill battle, and we could have ended up with a much less flexible CI/CD system without this having shipped fast.)

      • woodruffw17 minutes ago
        zizmor wouldn’t catch that condition at the moment, although it does have similar checks for other unsound conditions and incorrect/vulnerable bot actor checks. This one wouldn’t be too hard to add, though.

        (Source: I am zizmor’s maintainer.)

    • brewmarchean hour ago
      I get scared when I see these string interpolations in GitHub Actions.

      Use `env:` instead and just work with environment variables in your shell script.

      Yes, you still need to vet your script. Quoting is a common source of problems. Use shellcheck. Do not call eval/source/python/perl/whatever with untrusted input.

      But you removed one layer of problems already by not pasting a value into your shell script code directly.

    • saghm30 minutes ago
      Shell scripts on their own already are so perilous without static analysis. I'll never understand how we ended up deciding to embed them in yaml instead of requiring an external script file was a reasonable idea.
    • dataflowan hour ago
      Would it be fair to say the blame falls squarely on Github? Why do they even allow pasting of arbitrary strings from a title directly into a script? And if they feel there is a reason, what did they imagine the safe way to do it was?
    • netdevphoenix2 hours ago
      Difference is you are not a trillion dollar plus technology hyped as a harbinger of civilisational change.
      • bonoboTP35 minutes ago
        It can be that while also causing problems. It's like when a self driving car crashes, it's big news and everyone runs around like their pants are on fire. When a human driver crashes, it's a blip on local news or not even that.
      • inahgaan hour ago
        Sadly I'm not. Either way, how LLMs work mean that traditional software analysis tools are every bit as important as they were in the before times. This is why we see a lot of hype around LLMs and formal verification.
      • SV_BubbleTimean hour ago
        I mean… it’s only Monday!

        But yes, there is an interesting change in the past decade, where everything new must be over-hyped.

        Perhaps it is attention overload and needing to shout. Perhaps it’s that technological progress has significantly slowed while communication options have exploded (coincidence?).

        I look at it a lot like EVs. They’re great, if your use case is inside the specific band. But, that isn’t who they were being marketed to. And now… “pushback” is putting it lightly.

    • madeofpalk2 hours ago
      Github Actions is actually so incredibly scary to have on public repo. It's full of so many footguns that's far from obvious.

      It's a shame Github is buried under their current server issues, because it would be great to get improvements all of this - at least warning/erroring on these sorts of things themselves.

    • IncreasePosts21 minutes ago
      Is that project named after the serial nyc subway advertising dermatologist?
      • tingletech15 minutes ago
        yes, it says "Now you can have beautiful clean workflows!" and links to a youtube video of a TV ad for a dermatologist.
    • cryo3220 minutes ago
      Proof that LLMs are trained on mediocre shit. That is by definition, mediocre shit.
  • mjr003 hours ago
    It's interesting to look at what was being attempted when the vulnerability was introduced[0]

    > Workflows like jira_close.yml use deprecated atlassian JIRA actions and have a dependency on the gh-actions repo. This is not ideal and unecessarily complex. PR updates jira_close workflow to use direct API calls via curl. It preserves custom fields used too.

    I won't speak to this projects' management and how they prioritize things, but from my own experience, pre-AI, this type of change would have been firmly in the "this is a minor annoyance, put it in the Tech Debt Backlog alongside the 50000 other tickets" and never actually done. The cost of a human investing the time understanding how to fix the problem, doing code changes, testing them, and deploying them is just way too high for what actual value this change brings, which is close to nothing.

    Now with AI, it's as simple as firing up an agent and telling them to make a change; as much effort as writing that backlog Jira ticket in the first place.

    Similar to the problem open source is having with low-value PRs, companies are going to have to start realizing that code is not free to review or maintain, even when it's generated for ~free, in their internal processes. Just because an agent can fix a minor tech debt annoyance with a few lines of instructions doesn't mean it should.

    [0] https://github.com/snowflakedb/snowflake-connector-net/pull/...

    • fg1372 hours ago
      I have seen plenty of "my backlog has never been shorter" comments here.

      I'm interested in how that turns out 6 months later.

      In my team, we have plenty of enhancement requests from users. We address those that make obvious sense and are trivial to do but withhold from others, even though the code change itself is likely small. Because we don't know if there is more than a single user that can actually benefit from it, if it has unintended consequences, or if it causes maintainence issue down the road.

      • ctoth2 hours ago
        > but withhold from others, even though the code change itself is likely small.

        Prediction: programming is going to change massively not only because the cost of creating code will go down, but because people are so tired of this sort of gatekeeping "we know better" from programmers.

        • ljm12 minutes ago
          This describes a product with no vision or purpose.

          People have to take 'no' for an answer sometimes, even if they don't accept it. You can't really 'gatekeep' your own product.

        • eterman hour ago
          What you're describing as "gatekeeping" is actually Product Ownership and should be applauded, because the alternative is a product owner who abdicates responsibility to the customer.
        • datadrivenangelan hour ago
          And the software without gatekeepers will be regarded as confusing and complicated or buggy.

          The work to go from software to usable software system is vast.

        • mjr00an hour ago
          > Prediction: programming is going to change massively not only because the cost of creating code will go down, but because people are so tired of this sort of gatekeeping "we know better" from programmers.

          I assume the "gatekeeping" decision to not implement a feature request is coming from someone responsible for the product, not from a developer.

  • CodeWithLeo39 minutes ago
    The interesting lesson here isn't really “AI generated insecure code.” We've had insecure code for decades. The bigger issue is that AI makes it much cheaper to introduce changes, while the cost of reviewing those changes hasn't gone down nearly as much.

    The bottleneck is moving from code generation to code verification.

  • procone3 hours ago
    YAML is a nightmare fuel spec.

    In its quest to make markup "human readable", it has created countless footguns.

    I honestly prefer XML at this point.

    • doix2 hours ago
      Yeah, the YAMLification of everything kinda killed my ability to understand "everything". Previously, if you knew the Linux userland well, I felt like you could figure anything out with enough digging.

      Take CI for example, it was Jenkins and it ran a csh/bash/zsh whatever script and captured the output. Nice and simple (even if the scripts sometimes got insane).

      GitHub actions is nothing like that. Weird home grown extensions to YAML with their own idiosyncrasies and dynamically pulling in plugins from god knows where. You can't just take a workflow and execute it locally like you could with a bash script.

      • jeroenhd24 minutes ago
        The things done in yaml today would've been obscure bash oneliners had YAML not existed.

        Jenkins still exists and it's no less complicated than Github Actions. The complexity gets hidden in obscure script files, obscure tabbed UI, and remote services for doing things Jenkins itself can't do. Defaulting to system tooling makes it almost impossible to predict what a job will do unless you know exactly how paths and tooling are set up (and what versions they're running).

        None of my personal experiences with Jenkins had scripts that ran locally, they all relied on pre-installed software on the server because that was the thing people would do before the great YAMLification. You could copy-paste the Jenkins job, but unless you have Jabberwocky v2018.3 installed in /home/JabberWock/RELEASE, the script will fail.

        The entire software development flow has been made incredibly complex by hooking up automations into every nook and cranny.

        All of these complications need to be enabled manually, though. If your flow is complicated, you can cut it down to manageable size by doing a few more processes manually.

        Luckily, all of the simplication and reproduction steps for Github also apply to Jenkins. Github YAML files are just scripts with different syntax, after all. Just like you can run bash locally, you can run act and reproduce whatever Github trigger you need. From there, you can simplify pipelines, stop curl2bashing "plugins", and so on.

      • muvlonan hour ago
        And worse: GitHub Actions not a full-fledged programming environment by itself either, so you're inevitably going to have to deal with nontrivial shell scripts on top of all the YAML mess.
        • fragmedean hour ago
          Yeah. It makes sense when you're standing right next to it, but you take a step back and go "that doesn't look right". GitHub actions is the faster horse instead of a car.
    • anonymars2 hours ago
      In a similar vein, JSON's lack of comments makes me marvel at how consistently JavaScript seems to choose the worse option. I'm oh so glad it found its way into config files
      • an0malous2 hours ago
        Seems more like the opposite vein, JSON's lack of comments or other affordances has kept it safe from footguns
        • madeofpalk2 hours ago
          Of all the problems with YAML, how is comments a footgun?
      • 2 hours ago
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      • xgulfie2 hours ago
        I've seen people put "//" keys in their json lol
        • reddaloan hour ago
          I've also seen using "__" as a key for comments. I think it's better because it doesn't need to be escaped.
        • hutattedonmyarm31 minutes ago
          There _is_ a json variant with comments, so that’s what you’ve seen. Not all parsers support that though
          • jeroenhd21 minutes ago
            It's non-standard JSON, so you can probably just assume most patsers don't support any given commented parser.

            At least XML permitted comments, fhe shift to JSON on everything almost makes me nostalgic.

          • xgulfie17 minutes ago
            Are you denying what I've seen with my own eyes? I am saying it was an object like this:

            { "//":"make sure these are divisible by 8", "width": 640, "height": 480 }

        • stronglikedanan hour ago
          It's not terrible as far as I know, and it's less ambiguous than putting a "comment" key. I like it!
    • fmbb3 hours ago
      It’s find for actions and workflows as long as you do no interpolation and logic.

      Better move as much of that as possible into your own scripts. And your scripts can be portable between forges, and even run locally!

      • RHSeeger2 hours ago
        The YAML spec/parse _itself_ does interpolation and logic - incorrectly in some cases. YAML is pretty much never the right solution.
      • NewJazz3 hours ago
        Assigning an env var to an empty variable (env: { myvar: ${{unsetfoo}} }) should trigger an error, not silently pass an empty string.
        • ezfe2 hours ago
          What does that have to do with YAML?
          • NewJazzan hour ago
            It has to do with the gha bastardization of yaml, which clearly learned nothing from ansible's deficiencies.
      • formerly_proven2 hours ago
        > It’s find for actions and workflows as long as you do no interpolation and logic.

        How do you specify actions and workflows without interpolation and logic kind sir?

        • NewJazzan hour ago
          Run the same script for all of the workflow triggers and pass relevant vars into the script as environment variables.
    • hbn2 hours ago
      I never figured out how the hell to write YAML and I definitely won't now that I trust the AI to do a better job than me. It's so unintuitive.

      Every time I've tried in the past, something as simple as making a value a list had some nonsense expectations. I can't wrap my head around how that spec got any traction and wasn't laughed off the face of the earth the first time it was looked at by someone who didn't create it.

    • voakbasda31 minutes ago
      When I see YAML in a product tech stack, I know that the developers have probably made other similarly poor life decisions and try to steer clear of the entire iceberg.
    • cgannett2 hours ago
      And thus procone spoketh the truth.
      • codeduck2 hours ago
        In accordance with the prophecy.
  • vultour3 hours ago
    The first linked PR (#1218) has only one commit co-authored by Copilot and it's not related to the vulnerability, and neither are the other suggestions in the PR. Am I missing something?
  • sippeangelo3 hours ago
    The title is actually "Wiz Red Agent Finds Its Way Into Snowflake’s Internal Jira Due to an AI-Generated GitHub Copilot Autofix"
  • cowthulhuan hour ago
    This really shows why most languages evaluate all NULL comparisons to FALSE.

    For something as critical as Actions, it’s crazy to me that they wouldn’t fail-closed, and instead fail open when encountering a null. Scary stuff!

  • teraflop3 hours ago
    > The workflow had an if: condition that appeared protective:

    > if: (github.event_name == 'issues' && github.event.pull_request.user.login != 'whitesource-for-github-com[bot]')

    > However, on issues events, github.event.pull_request is always null.

    This is extra dumb because even if you thought this condition was correctly testing the user's identity, it shouldn't have "appeared protective" upon even a moment's thought. If it worked correctly, it would obviously just exclude one bot user while allowing all other users, so it wouldn't provide any protection at all.

    But more likely, this condition was never intended to be "protective" at all, and it's only being described that way because the writeup is LLM slop.

  • johnwils2 hours ago
    The env + jq was there on purpose. Autofix swapped it for a string in a shell. That's the part that needed a person on the diff.
  • 3 hours ago
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  • chrisjj3 hours ago
    > a single quote in the title breaks out of echo '...' and allows arbitrary command execution.

    Quote injection still alive and well in 2026. Gawd.

    • myself248an hour ago
      It's appalling that computing in general, and unix in particular, seems to have this habit of intermingling payload and overhead.

      It's like in-band signalling in the telephone network, where if you whistled the right tones into your call, you could affect the way the network processed said call. Except Ma Bell responded to that system being exploited by designing a comprehensive overhaul of the way signalling was handled, and spent a squadzillion dollars upgrading millions of tons of switching equipment to categorically exclude that entire class of attack from ever being possible.

      Software, on the other hand, would need to replace no equipment whatsoever. Existing processors are perfectly capable of running code that handles the length of a string separately from its contents. There are existing languages that do this, they're just.... not used. String escapes and buffer overflows exist, going on decades now, due to nothing more than laziness, inertia, and negligence.

      • simonciona minute ago
        > It's like in-band signalling in the telephone network...

        The major LLM providers claim that they are very committed to security and that their products are very dangerous and capable of great harm.

        Given that their tools do what Ma Bell's systems did in the mid-1900s, [0] -which the entire software world relearned was a terrible idea by the early 1990s- they are definitely

        1) Lying about the extent of their commitment to security

        2) Lying about the extent of the harm that their tools are capable of

        3) Both

        My money is on #3.

        Because of the fact that -in the absence of unambiguous laws that require meaningfully-severe punishment- even the most fucknasty and amateur hour security failures nearly always have little to no impact on the company that causes them, the major LLM providers have absolutely done the smart thing by providing commercial tools that have remote code execution vulns that would automatically give them a Critical CVSS score.

        To put it another way: "the market" has no idea how to evaluate computer security claims. Because of this, every dollar you spend on proactively fixing security problems is nearly always a dollar wasted... it's better to wait until someone important gets Big Mad before spending the money. Does this make the world worse? Absolutely! Does this make companies selling software and software services much more money? Definitely!

        [0] If the major LLM providers did separate unsanitized data from program instructions and ensure that the two are never mixed, things like [1] would not be possible.

        [1] <https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2026/08/prompt-inject...>

    • danqqqq3 hours ago
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  • TheRealPomax3 hours ago
    No, Snowflake allowing autofixes compromised their Jira. If you tell someone to shoot you in the foot, and they shoot you in the foot, you shot yourself in the foot, just with more steps. If someone else finds the memo that says you've set up foot shooting as a service, and then they trigger that service, you still shot yourself in the foot.
    • rawgabbit2 hours ago
      Help me understand. Snowflake configured their Github repo to allow auto fixes by Copilot. It got merged automatically without anyone's review? And introduced essentially script-injection vulnerability through the title field?

      If this is the case, I would say Snowflake should shut down its repo and get off Github asap.

      • rafram2 hours ago
        No. A Snowflake maintainer opened a PR, Copilot suggested a change (introducing a vulnerability), the maintainer accepted and committed it to their PR, and another Snowflake maintainer approved and merged the PR.
        • otterley6 minutes ago
          I don't see anything in the article that says that two maintainers, let alone one, reviewed the PR manually and approved it before merging. Where are you getting this information from?
        • lelanthranan hour ago
          And that's going to continue because no one is reading the code even when they approve it.

          It's a very strange thing indeed, but not unexpected: we warned that skills not used will eventually atrophy.

        • rawgabbitan hour ago
          Thanks.
  • kozikow40 minutes ago
    Issues will happen AI, or not AI. It's same as "self driving car made an accident"!

    I'm not saying blindly trusting auto-fix is not bad. I'm just saying that interpreting singular issue as way to downplay AI-assisted engineering without giving a "denominator" is not honest reporting.

  • forestry3 hours ago
    Peer review of changes is still important.
    • throwlifeawayan hour ago
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    • Rumudiez3 hours ago
      Multi-model cross-review is important
      • _joel2 hours ago
        I'm all for using a council of LLMs, I wrote a tool for it https://github.com/joelio/owl - but you still need to read through PRs yourself, at the very least.
      • acedTrex3 hours ago
        It's not actually, thats just shoving more shit into the shit pipeline.

        Humans need to review this stuff yall there's no way around that, apparently to some, very inconvenient reality.

        • devin3 hours ago
          It’s clear that they want this to be true so bad that they’re just not going to do it, and will spend a ton of money on quality gates and mitigation strategies instead of just reading some code.
    • Twirrim3 hours ago
      You can't rely on people spotting the significance of such changes
      • eithed3 hours ago
        Tests would have caught it = https://github.com/rhysd/actionlint injection check
      • dv_dt3 hours ago
        I have been talking to people who want to autoreview and autoapprove "minor" AI prs. For security especially, I think if the models weren't enough to prevent the issues, they aren't enough to judge what is minor.
      • fn-mote3 hours ago
        ^^

        Absolutely.

        Nothing in the PR jumps out as a red flag. Unless you know how the internals work, I suppose.

        • larsonian2 hours ago
          Are you kidding? It's a very obvious case of quote injection. Not some subtle race condition or anything.
          • joombaga2 hours ago
            I think it's obvious too. I'd call out any case of `${{ }}` interpolation in a `run` block, and it's something I watch for in PRs. I also know other people don't watch for this, as I've corrected it about a hundred times. Over the last 10 years my average colleague understands less and less about injection or to watch for it at layer boundaries.
        • chrisjj3 hours ago
          > Nothing in the PR jumps out as a red flag.

          Made by AI?

  • mhrsntrk3 hours ago
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  • beyondscale-shaan hour ago
    [dead]
  • antiloper3 hours ago
    Someone forgot to add "make no mistakes!" when triggering autofix /s