25 pointsby gist2 hours ago8 comments
  • tobadzistsini3 minutes ago
    Maybe I am a chud but if I am driving to pick up my food and the cashier is just ringing me up, nobody's getting tipped and I have no problem hitting no tip.
  • adastra2224 minutes ago
    Blame the payment processors. If you are a store and you buy a point of sale machine, it comes preconfigured to 18%/20%/25% or whatever tips, and it is not well documented how to change it. Most small business owners give up and stop bothering.

    Why do the payment companies do this? Because they get ~1% of the tip.

    • stavros9 minutes ago
      And they put the highest tip button right over the "No tip" button. My hand once slipped and I gave a 40% tip to a barista who handed me a sandwich when I meant to give 0.

      I hate tipping so much, I want to start a "no tipping" movement. Then hopefully the industry will figure out how to pay their people a living wage without making paying a game of social pressure for me.

  • leoapagano6 minutes ago
    Shamelessly AI generated articles on the front page of a national news site (albeit not a very good one). What has this world come to
  • SoftTalker17 minutes ago
    There is pretty much one way to stop this: stop patronizing carry-out and counter service establishments that throw a tip question into the checkout process. It's not enough to just elect zero tip. Stop giving them your money, period.

    No problem tipping for good sit-down table service, or a good bartender at a bar. But at carry-out and self-service places, there's no service provided so nothing to earn a tip.

    • PearlRiver5 minutes ago
      A tip at McDonald's. Hello I ordered at the kiosk and just spoke literally one word to the young lady over there why am I tipping...
    • stavros8 minutes ago
      I have a problem tipping for anything now. If a tip is something someone expects, it's no longer a tip, it's a hidden charge, and I don't like it.
  • rustcleaner26 minutes ago
    Time to start the #NeverTipper movement!
  • Noaidi18 minutes ago
    I just wanna know how everyone thinks is acceptable to tip for a product that you did not even receive yet. How do I know if it’s even good? Can I take my tip back if it’s not?
    • Mindless21126 minutes ago
      I don't think it's acceptable, and I don't tip if I pay before I eat. Ironically, I also don't adjust the amount I tip at sit-down restaurants based on how the service was. So it's really just that I refuse to allow tipping to expand beyond where it was customary when I was growing up. I would happily see it be outlawed entirely.
  • gist2 hours ago
    My thought is that this doesn't shift the burden to those that can afford to pay (and choose to tip) it shifts the burden to many of those who (for a lack of a better way to put it) don't have the money but feel bad if they don't tip. Also I fully understand why businesses do this but it creates a negative feeling at the point of purchase in terms of rejecting and not tipping.
    • chopin18 minutes ago
      In Germany, it is not very common. Where I see it, I avoid the business.
      • weinzierl2 minutes ago
        It's getting increasingly common in Germany as well, especially at bakeries and the like.

        I recently had one at one of the big coffee chains where it offered 10%, 15%, 20% and an unlabeled fourth option. The fourth option went into a submenu with 5%, 10%, 15% and this time a labeled none option, which sent you to a another yes/no screen.

        I don't avoid the business but I do not feel bad at all not tipping when there is no service involved. And, no, the 3 second interaction of handing me out goods from behind the counter doesn't count. When there is service involved it usually is already included in the price and rounding up is a courtesy but not required.

  • ferrouswheelan hour ago
    Americans are beggers because they don't have employee rights. Some people euphemistically call this "tipping culture"
    • xyzelementa minute ago
      I would say that America has a culture oriented towards rewarding performance. A good waiter's tips net them more pay that their foreign counterparts.

      It's the same as looking at an American engineer's bonus that's 3x a foreign engineer's whole pay and calling them a beggar.

    • adastra2223 minutes ago
      Every time there is an initiative to require paying living wages, food and bar service representatives fight to get it killed because they make _more_ money from tips than they would from regular wages. Tip-earning workers in America are well represented.
      • singpolyma319 minutes ago
        Could always do what we did in Canada: pay living wages but still inexplicably keep tipping culture
        • BeetleB17 minutes ago
          Several states do that.
        • tolugenius17 minutes ago
          > pay living wages

          But have you thought about the poor shareholders? /s

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      • rustcleaner16 minutes ago
        Could ban tipping by law. Businesses where employees are caught accepting tips get fined. The price on the menu or shelf must be the final price at payment (including sales taxes and other fees).
      • XorNot12 minutes ago
        Except the actual workers don't: very very few consistently earn a higher wage, instead on a "good night" they count the win and ignore the losses when it's not.

        Even with reliable good nights the off nights eat away at that margin.

        It's a false economy.

        • rustcleaner10 minutes ago
          Few talk about the Skinnerian mechanics behind tipping. It's the addictive element which keeps gamers gaming, microtransactors microtransacting, pattern day traders day trading, and gig drivers gigging. The excitement of the gamble. The irrational belief that the next customer may be George Soros and they'll leave $10K on the table.